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Hair and saggy boobs fetish - body modification questions - 4/7/2013 2:21:26 PM   
Firefly2005


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I was wanting a bit of advice really, and that's why I joined this forum. About 4 years ago my wife (newly married at the time) made a really bizarre confession to me. I think because of some embarrassing changing room experiences and seeing another girl get teased when she was younger, she had a bit of a strange fantasy - it had two elements.

1. She fantasised about being forced/coerced into stopping any form of depilation.

2. She fantasised really strongly about having sagging boobs.

Mainly because she found the idea of the humiliation involved in both of those a massive turn on. She's not really into BDSM in any other context - and I'm not really into dominating or bondage, so I guess the only bit of BDSM that we fulfil here is the "M" :)

Since then, I "forbade" her from shaving or maintaining her body hair in anyway, and we've had a lot of fun with the perceived embarrassment of being totally unmaintained and hairy in a world where shaving seems to have become the norm. The most hurtful (and therefore secretly arousing to her) comments she has received have been from other women oddly enough - men don't seem to bother.

The second fantasy - sagging boobs - is a strange one. It was strictly a fantasy as she always had really really pert 32C breasts. She was originally 110lb, and a couple of years ago she gained about 50lb in weight, and then fell pregnant a year ago. Now she's started losing weight since then and she's back down to 150lb having been almost 190lb when 9 months pregnant. It has really led to a massive change (as in they hardly look like the same breasts - went up to a 38F, heavy, sagging with stretchmarks everywhere) in her breasts and she is loving the changes - really turns her on. She's got a bit obsessed and wants more.

My question is, and I hope it's appropriate for these boards:
Does anyone know of any other way (aside from rapid weight gain and weight loss, which we are already doing) of speeding the process of breast sagging? She is kind of obsessive about the idea of empty pancake boobs that flop down with nipples pointing down at the floor, and she keeps asking me if I can think of any way of making that happen.

Has anyone ever heard of fantasies like this - is she very abnormal? She's very happy in the rest of her life and there doesn't seem to be any self-harm/self-hate to it all.

This is strictly her fantasy/kink, but I love her and I love the way she gets so turned on by this, and I've kind of learned to find it hot too. I'm definitely willing to help her achieve it but I don't want to do anything dangerous or stupid. She's had random ideas like weights and brutal massaging to loosen up the underlying supporting structures etc but I don't want to cause harm beyond changes to their appearance.

All this is obviously not an option for another 9 months as she's planning to breast feed for a full year (6 months exclusive)

Thanks for reading and look forward to any responses. I'll be looking round the forums to get more of a feel for this place and I hope none of this was out of line.

Love to meet you all!

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RE: Hair and saggy boobs fetish - body modification que... - 4/7/2013 4:12:17 PM   
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Does anyone know of any other way (aside from rapid weight gain and weight loss, which we are already doing) of speeding the process of breast sagging?

Aging. Believe me it works eventually. It really does.

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RE: Hair and saggy boobs fetish - body modification que... - 4/7/2013 4:41:36 PM   
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I found a description of what causes saggy breasts.....
One of things is smoking - for the love of Pete - and I realize that's NOT what you were looking for.

But here's an odd one that fits your requirements - wearing a bra.  Allows the mucles holding the tits to relax/atrophy.  Then when the bra is removed, et viola' - sag.  The article speaks of wearing the bra all the time to induce sagging, but since she's getting off on the public humiliationyou might have her (as Dom) require one month on, one month off.  And the one month on could be sag-helpful by being an old worn-out bra.  Rub the current bras through machine washing and hot dryers.  That way, although "on" for the public, the breats can sag.  And that gives me an idea - when "old" but clean bras are being worn, how about a blouse intended to show cleavage - hint of a bra - you know what I mean.  Then in public, the humiliation can be directed as "You think she'd know better than to wear an old bra like that.... just look at how her boobs are flopping around."

AND - I don't know what you call them in UK... maybe "opportunity Shops"? Here we call them "Thrift Shops."  The public donates worn-out goods and the workers - usually jobless-types - clean and display them for public to buy.  Often GREAT deals with desginers labels can be found, and sometimes, just work-a-day jeans.... or maybe, you got it!  Previously worn bras.

HOT!  You as man could get involved by going and buying bras by yourself.  You'd be humiliated along those "I'm kind of getting into it."

MUST run - but go google - breast sagging cures - and then do the opposite. GOOD LUCK! and LOL!

Massage is seen as anti-sagging since it stimulates the flow of oxygen, thereby repairing the muscles.





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RE: Hair and saggy boobs fetish - body modification que... - 4/7/2013 5:07:54 PM   
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I didn't shave much the last few months of my pregnancy. It became too much to not be able to breath while bent over trying to shave. But then I could not stand the feeling of my leg hair rubbing against my pants and risk the oxygen deprivation to shave.

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RE: Hair and saggy boobs fetish - body modification que... - 4/7/2013 5:14:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		i'd talk to someone about saline injection. because, essentially what you want is to stretch the skin. that's what causes sagging - skin that's stretched out, with not enough stuff inside to fill it and make it look plump.

stretching the skin might be possible using something like nipple clamps with weights attached, but of course there'd be pain involved with that method.

maybe consider getting the nipples pierced, then hanging weights from the piercings.

the most extreme solution would be to have her get extremely large breast implants. the skin would stretch to accomodate the implant... then if you remove the implant, you'd have lots of extra skin.

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RE: Hair and saggy boobs fetish - body modification que... - 4/7/2013 6:01:07 PM   
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RE: Hair and saggy boobs fetish - body modification que... - 4/7/2013 6:10:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Skin loses its elasticity over time, sure... but there are lots of old people who don't have saggy skin. There's more to the equation than time or aging.

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RE: Hair and saggy boobs fetish - body modification que... - 4/7/2013 6:27:25 PM   
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Pull her hair, and rethink wanting sagging boobs this early. I gaurantee all good things come to those who wait. Enjoy the PERKS now.

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RE: Hair and saggy boobs fetish - body modification que... - 4/7/2013 7:30:15 PM   
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RE: Hair and saggy boobs fetish - body modification que... - 4/7/2013 7:36:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would say don't rush it. While it's nice to have the fantasy right now, she might regret it later. Tell her to wait until shes 60. It will continue and then you can enjoy it.

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RE: Hair and saggy boobs fetish - body modification que... - 4/7/2013 8:00:00 PM   
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RE: Hair and saggy boobs fetish - body modification que... - 4/7/2013 10:38:24 PM   
Firefly2005


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Status: offline 		Thanks for all the interesting replies. We had thought of the piercing and weights, but the ideas of saline injections and breast implants where new ones for us, though I don't think that'd be for us.

Is there any kind of bondage that people have seen that would hasten the process? Eg tying ropes tight at the bases and the hanging weights, or big clamps that would clamp at the base of her breasts which again could be weighted?

Thanks for the words of advice as regards whether we actually want to be doing this. Luckily we've been together since we were 19, so I've had the joy of perkiness. She wants to do this - she fantasises and genuinely loves the idea of her breasts being a shock when she strips - an otherwise perfect body with saggy, empty loose "udders" as she likes them called. It's the very fact that she's young that makes the idea of such a disparity such a turn on to her.

I'm guessing that the hairiness and saggy fetishes are not common ones in this community, but thanks so much for the lovely responses so far!

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RE: Hair and saggy boobs fetish - body modification que... - 4/7/2013 10:47:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Your best bet, honestly? At the moment she is breast feeding, right? Wait until all that is done and THEN see where her breasts are at in terms of sagginess.

Really, right now you are looking to do something that you can't (or shouldn't given the circumstances) for what? Another year?

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RE: Hair and saggy boobs fetish - body modification que... - 4/7/2013 10:47:39 PM   
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You've heard about the bra sizes in retirement homes? 38 Long?

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RE: Hair and saggy boobs fetish - body modification que... - 4/7/2013 11:17:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nipple piercings (and/or nipple clamps) plus weights = longer nipples: NOT longer breasts.

^^^ Voice of experience.



Here's a masculine version, but you can easily "cross genders." (Oh, wait! HE's hairy to boot. LOL!)



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RE: Hair and saggy boobs fetish - body modification que... - 4/8/2013 6:51:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Quick question if I may { I have been following this and this question keeps coming to my mind}.... You keep saying she wants, "empty loose udders" that just hang and are saggy. LOL I am in my fiftys and have the whole saggy thing going on "groans"....but they are not empty looking at all. Here is the question, does she want them to look like that or more like someone in their later years where there is no muscle tone left and the look like they are just old and very saggy? Trying to figure out what you mean by them being empty as you have stated that several times. Thanks in advance for your answer.

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RE: Hair and saggy boobs fetish - body modification que... - 4/8/2013 3:37:55 PM   
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Quick question if I may { I have been following this and this question keeps coming to my mind}.... You keep saying she wants, "empty loose udders" that just hang and are saggy. LOL I am in my fiftys and have the whole saggy thing going on "groans"....but they are not empty looking at all. Here is the question, does she want them to look like that or more like someone in their later years where there is no muscle tone left and the look like they are just old and very saggy? Trying to figure out what you mean by them being empty as you have stated that several times. Thanks in advance for your answer.


Thank you for the lovely response and genuine interest. I think she likes the idea of them looking flaccid and empty. Not large and pendulous. I think having been a 38F, she is planning to get back down to a 30/32 bandsize again - size 8 in the UK (having been at a size 14 recently). The weight is absolutely falling off her as she breastfeeds and she is losing 2lb a week consistently.

And what she talks about, and I quote, is having "empty flaps of skin with nipples pointing at the floor that would be incredibly humiliating to have to expose" if she was changing in front of her close friends. She loves the idea of shocking people with the contrast. I think to be honest, that if she keeps on losing weight, that is what will happen especially when she stops producing milk later on this year. I desperately hopes she still enjoys the end result - I will as long as she does.

I've added a photo that she really likes - amongst many others. But this is one she feels she has a real chance of achieving, and then "surpassing" as she puts it, if she continues to lose weight past that stage.

Hopefully that will help your visualisation. I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts.




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RE: Hair and saggy boobs fetish - body modification que... - 4/8/2013 8:19:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		She may still be young enough that even after she is done breast feeding they will stay perky, mine did. I would say in time they will start to look like that ....but I will keep my fingers crossed since this is what she wishes that they just go saggy for her now. LOL then when she is in her 50's and they are keeping her knees warm she will wish them perky again. Thank you for your answer and the pic, that was the image I had but was not sure. Also congrats on the little one and heres wishing you the best that you find an answer to your question.

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RE: Hair and saggy boobs fetish - body modification que... - 4/8/2013 9:56:04 PM   
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She may still be young enough that even after she is done breast feeding they will stay perky, mine did. I would say in time they will start to look like that ....but I will keep my fingers crossed since this is what she wishes that they just go saggy for her now. LOL then when she is in her 50's and they are keeping her knees warm she will wish them perky again. Thank you for your answer and the pic, that was the image I had but was not sure. Also congrats on the little one and heres wishing you the best that you find an answer to your question.

Kar


Thanks for another lovely reply. I think the key thing to do here is emphasise that she does not want this because she thinks that this will look good. She has always been very proud of her appearance. The reason she wants this is for the embarrassment, and the perceived powerlessness - you can't control how saggy your breasts are. So the idea, or her fantasy, is of being pitied and somehow judged for this, with no-one knowing that she's done everything she can to help the process along. This fantasy and the fact that it's become a little bit more of a reality seems to turn her on more than anything I've ever seen - it's fanastic. She even talked about skin-sparing breast reductions, though that was strictly fantasy - she is not actually mad.

I've really appreciated the comments and the fact that they have been non-judgemental and friendly so far. Any other ideas- specifically anyone who has had experience of rope play or clamps at the base of the breast... Would appreciate their thoughts. For instance did they ever see any long term damage to shape of the breast? Which is what, in this case, she wants. Any comments from anyone who actually understands and appreciates the idea of the secret self humiliation that my wife wants to put herself through, or from dom/mes who've inflicted that... I'd be very keen to hear your thoughts aswell so that I can better fulfil her desires...

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RE: Hair and saggy boobs fetish - body modification que... - 4/9/2013 9:03:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		You say you can't control the sagginess, but this whole post is about controlling it. Altering your body in a negative fashion like gaining weight and then losing it quickly seems like it's a poor idea given a health standpoint. Obviously it's her body and she will do what she wants with it but I would say try to keep the perkiness because once it's gone, it's gone.

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