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BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Do you think a Dom would prefer me? (4/7/2013 7:18:12 PM)

What in the world do you mean by abusing a sub?! Why would any woman put herself in legal danger, by ?abusing you?
This is not the way to find someone to deflower you. M




LadyPact -> RE: Do you think a Dom would prefer me? (4/7/2013 8:09:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kolbey

I see where you're coming from, and sure most of what I say is fantasy.
Please take the time to read My sig line.

In the event I should change it in the future, I'll paste it here for you.

"If your fantasies start annoying the heck out of My reality, don't be surprised when I tell you stuff that you don't want to hear. "





Kolbey -> RE: Do you think a Dom would prefer me? (4/7/2013 8:10:07 PM)

Its not actual abuse, its play. Are you saying subs can't knife play? Subs can't have a bit of fun while making love or as a form of foreplay?




phoenixasubbie -> RE: Do you think a Dom would prefer me? (4/7/2013 9:28:19 PM)

Of course subs can play, and as DarkSteven told you, it is called funishment.

The point people are trying to make to you, is that as a submissive IT ISN'T ABOUT YOU.

The greatest pleasure I have as a submissive woman is making my dominant happy. Sexual or otherwise. To have him tell me I am a good girl... whatever, and yes my needs are met of course, but my needs are met by satiating his.

Make better sense?




Kolbey -> RE: Do you think a Dom would prefer me? (4/7/2013 10:03:50 PM)

Um, I'm all about that myself. I think my profile describes that. Women are to be pleased and receive lots of attention.
True, I would like to have fun myself, but girl first, me second. Unless she tells me no, then I'll behave. :(




peppermint -> RE: Do you think a Dom would prefer me? (4/7/2013 10:41:15 PM)

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looking for a dominant women to have her way with me.


"Have her way with me" means you want to have sex.  That does not mean you want to please her.  It means you want to fuck or be sexually aroused by a woman.  So no, you did not make it clear in your profile that women are to be pleased.    

You sexual fantasies have nothing to do with pleasing a woman.  Actually, sex might not have anything to do with pleasing her.  She might be very pleased if you cook dinner for her and then clean the kitchen. 




Kolbey -> RE: Do you think a Dom would prefer me? (4/7/2013 10:53:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: peppermint

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looking for a dominant women to have her way with me.


"Have her way with me" means you want to have sex.  That does not mean you want to please her.  It means you want to fuck or be sexually aroused by a woman.  So no, you did not make it clear in your profile that women are to be pleased.    

You sexual fantasies have nothing to do with pleasing a woman.  Actually, sex might not have anything to do with pleasing her.  She might be very pleased if you cook dinner for her and then clean the kitchen. 



How do you know she wouldn't be pleased by having her way with me? And honestly I could cook dinner if she found that arousing. Or if she was just hungry.




Kolbey -> RE: Do you think a Dom would prefer me? (4/7/2013 11:00:16 PM)

Sure, I have fantasies. Not going to lie about that, but I genuinely do wish to please a "master"
If she wants to piss on me, I accept. If she wants me to brush her hair, I'm up for it. If she wants to put a dildo in my butt, I'm out of there.




OsideGirl -> RE: Do you think a Dom would prefer me? (4/8/2013 8:56:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kolbey
How do you know she wouldn't be pleased by having her way with me? And honestly I could cook dinner if she found that arousing. Or if she was just hungry.


Women are the keepers of the pussy. We can get laid anywhere. You're offering something we have no problem getting, so therefore, it is not an enticement for us. (Its like offering someone who lives in the desert more sand) You'd have a better chance of having some woman have sex with you if offer something she can't get from every Tom, Dick and Harry.....like actual service.




AAkasha -> RE: Do you think a Dom would prefer me? (4/10/2013 11:44:09 PM)


Just jumping in here with a fast reply.

This is the kind of thread that I think the "regulars" really should be ashamed and just get over themselves. Here's a guy who is 21 and asking some questions and several of you are being deliberately obtuse and difficult when you obviously know what he is trying to say, but to make a point, you are taking everything he says literally.

Abuse? As in, "hey baby, use and abuse me!" You know. like a *21 year old* might say?

It's as if you forgot what it was like to be young and have feeling of erotic, sensual, exploratory urges related to S&M, and you take great satisfaction in telling him he is going about it wrong, no femdom wants his "broken" form of selfish submission, and that he's selfish, confused, watches too much porn, doesn't know what abuse is, must think BDSM is all about sex, and are ready at the moment to jump on anything he might say that may be taken out of context to make you feel like experts.

And you know full well he is going to put his foot into his mouth a few more times, because he's 21, and he's horny, and he doesn't have the background or language or context to know what he wants. So instead of giving him a little bit of context, you'd much rather just tell him he's shit out of luck and his fantasies and desires are selfish and inappropriate, or immoral (ie, abuse).

At his age and experience, there's no way of knowing if he's a "sub" or a "bottom" or a "bedroom kinkster" - did you know at 21? Would you appreciate a bunch of "old timers" being condescending to you because you used the wrong lingo? He's expressing his ideas in the language he knows, and if you used YOUR base of knowledge about what S&M urges feel like -- just think back to when you were 21 and try to have some empathy here -- I bet you can understand where he is coming from. He is NOT being insincere. He just doesn't know where he's at yet.

So now we have another 21 year old on the verge of thinking older kinksters are a bunch of uptight jerks.

To the OP: It sounds like you have eroticized feelings of surrender, submission, helplessness. Yes, some women enjoy the idea of "vulnerability" (I do) and in some cases, that's magnified if a man is innocent -- truly innocent. There are drawbacks to that of course, because a man with no experiences also has to be taught everything. It all comes down to personal taste. You'll find that dominant women, under it all, are still just women. You may do better with older women, if they tend to seek out men who are younger because they like that advantage and like to have the upper hand from an experience level. But it still comes down to dating, getting to know people, etc.

As for what everyone else said about what a BDSM relationship looks like, and being selfish or having kinky things done to you - there are women that are sadistic and women who like to be "pampered" and tended to, and everything in between. You just have to find a woman who is on the same wavelength as you. If your desire is to submit physically to a woman who gets off on making you do things physically at her whim, just know that most women who are wired to enjoy that kind of control like it on their terms; while they may take your fantasies into consideration, they generally have their own arsenal of fantasies they want met -- and expect on some level for you to "endure" (while respecting limits). Then, they may use your fantasies and hot buttons to manipulate you into surrender.

At least that's how I operate!

But above all -- chemistry rules everything. Without lust, affection, attraction, there is no desire for domination. And a man being a sub is not enough for most femdoms to want to dominate him. He has to be desirable on all the "non kinky" levels, too.

To everyone else here: Lighten up on the new people, especially the young ones. It really sucks when you know what someone is trying to say ("abuse me"? do you really think he meant a woman hit him with a baseball bat against his will and put him into a hospital, REALLY?) and everyone just loves the opportunity to jump on him as if he's being literal.

Akasha




LadyPact -> RE: Do you think a Dom would prefer me? (4/11/2013 9:46:26 AM)

Oddly enough, when I went to My first munch, one of the first things that was recommended to Me was a book. It was so I could start learning lingo, the difference between the reality vrs fiction, and know how to hold a conversation. I know, I know...... That damn old fashioned thinking about being responsible for My own kink education.

I'll bet I would have turned out so much better if I would have never made a personal investment and would have come to message boards instead. [8|]




UllrsIshtar -> RE: Do you think a Dom would prefer me? (4/11/2013 2:29:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

This is the kind of thread that I think the "regulars" really should be ashamed and just get over themselves. Here's a guy who is 21 and asking some questions and several of you are being deliberately obtuse and difficult when you obviously know what he is trying to say, but to make a point, you are taking everything he says literally.



Hear, hear.




Aswad -> RE: Do you think a Dom would prefer me? (4/11/2013 2:41:50 PM)

Seconded. The OP sounded genuinely curious and genuinely clueless (which is to be expected).

The replies he got were for the most part unconstructive, to put it mildly.

AAkasha, thank you for taking the time for a good reply.

IWYW,
— Aswad.





BitaTruble -> RE: Do you think a Dom would prefer me? (4/11/2013 3:16:06 PM)

fr

No need for the Captain Save-a-Ho complex. The kid is doing fine, handling himself well. I think he'll learn.

Akasha, As far as the preaching to the 'regulars'.. give me a break. This thread is tame. Seriously tame. I have no idea why, with all the threads out there where new folks ARE getting unfairly toasted, you'd choose this one to wad your panties in. To use your words.. get over yourself. You're not the board police and that's coming from someone who treats new people well. I don't know what makes you think you have the right to toss around cyber commands to the general population but you don't.

Aswad - I disagree completely. I just read the thread and thought the responses were spot on, fair and informative and if the new kid didn't have a problem with them.. no one else should either. He's interacting, listening and he's getting responses. He hasn't thrown a hissy fit or asked for saving so unless Akasha was trying to steer folks to her website I see no purpose in calling out 'regulars' who, really, from my POV didn't deserve to be dressed down like they're school children.

If you can point out the posts that were 'unconstructive 'for the most part' I'd like to read them again.. maybe I missed them? You're seeing something that I'm not because I thought every single post made offered something to the OP to help him out.. even if it wasn't wrapped in chocolate kisses.

OP - I have no problem with virgins. I had one once and wouldn't have a problem repeating the experience. Your enthusiasm levels are of much more importance to me than your sexual experience, so, yes, there are people who will consider it and it won't be a problem.




NiceButMeanGirl -> RE: Do you think a Dom would prefer me? (4/11/2013 3:22:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kolbey

Would a Dom female get satisfaction from abusing a virgin? I know that everyone is different, but logically speaking does it seem like the innocence factor would arouse the mistress more?

I can only speak for myself. I don't abuse anyone. Abuse implies it's non-consensual and I only do things consensually. I do sometimes enjoy helping newb experience BDSM for the first time. I remember how scary and exciting it was my first time in kink and wished I'd had someone to ease me into it gently, so that's how I do it with a newb.

As for actual sexual virginity, never having had sex before, ummm, well, most first-timers are NOT all that great. They aren't very "satisfying" and they don't arouse me much. Both my ex-husbands were virgins when I met them and they were both really sucky at that point.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kolbey

Um, I'm all about that myself. I think my profile describes that. Women are to be pleased and receive lots of attention.

Umm, nope. That's NOT what it says. "looking for a dominant women to have her way with me" just means you're looking for some easy sex with a Domme is all. Women have pussies which means we can get it virtually anytime we want, even "older" women like myself. Besides, how do you know sex would please her?

Sure, I like sex just as much as the next person, but it would really please me for a man to know how I like my coffee fixed and bring it to me, scrub my floors (I hate that particular task myself), give me a heavenly foot massage..... Things like that. Now if someone is all about that, I'm tickled to pieces.

NBMG




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Do you think a Dom would prefer me? (4/11/2013 6:26:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble
fr
No need for the Captain Save-a-Ho complex. The kid is doing fine, handling himself well. I think he'll learn.

Akasha, As far as the preaching to the 'regulars'.. give me a break. This thread is tame. Seriously tame. I have no idea why, with all the threads out there where new folks ARE getting unfairly toasted, you'd choose this one to wad your panties in. To use your words.. get over yourself. You're not the board police and that's coming from someone who treats new people well. I don't know what makes you think you have the right to toss around cyber commands to the general population but you don't.

He hasn't thrown a hissy fit or asked for saving so unless Akasha was trying to steer folks to her website I see no purpose in calling out 'regulars' who, really, from my POV didn't deserve to be dressed down like they're school children.
Thank you BitaTruble. Have I told you how much I missed you, and am happy to read you are back stateside? Did you learn Portuguese while out there?
I had an alternative universe moment when I read Akasha's sermon. She's usually among the toughest verbal spankers around these parts, so this post is interesting, and certainly would cause me to go check the nice domina's site.

Kolbey, yes dominas would prefer you, since you seem to be smart, and would provide a good date, like cooking/pampering her. I just have a problem with wording of abuse, and taking of my virginity anywhere close to each other for legal reasons. You would like to be used for fun, and deflowered. Treat her like a lady, and you may get exactly that, if she's attracted, and you're willing. M




angelikaJ -> RE: Do you think a Dom would prefer me? (4/11/2013 6:34:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kolbey

Okay, let me spell it out.

Sexually abused, with consent of course. Giving oneself entirely to the will of the mistress and having almost 0 say in what she does. Sure, a few hard limits, but I'm the type of guy that is far too timid to speak up if she did something I didn't enjoy. If she violated my hard limits I would object, but anything else and I would just keep my mouth shut. Pleasing her before myself, she is the valued one, I'm the servant.


Kolbey,
I appreciate this and all the other clarifications you have made.

Can you see perhaps how clearer communication of what you are seeking may be useful in helping you find what you are looking for?




LadyPact -> RE: Do you think a Dom would prefer me? (4/11/2013 7:47:19 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble
fr
No need for the Captain Save-a-Ho complex. The kid is doing fine, handling himself well. I think he'll learn.

Akasha, As far as the preaching to the 'regulars'.. give me a break. This thread is tame. Seriously tame. I have no idea why, with all the threads out there where new folks ARE getting unfairly toasted, you'd choose this one to wad your panties in. To use your words.. get over yourself. You're not the board police and that's coming from someone who treats new people well. I don't know what makes you think you have the right to toss around cyber commands to the general population but you don't.

He hasn't thrown a hissy fit or asked for saving so unless Akasha was trying to steer folks to her website I see no purpose in calling out 'regulars' who, really, from my POV didn't deserve to be dressed down like they're school children.

[sm=applause.gif]





SeekingTrinity -> RE: Do you think a Dom would prefer me? (4/11/2013 8:11:55 PM)

Beautifully said, BitaTruble

All due respect, but anyone who has been in this for any length of time knows of the misconceptions that most folks not "in the know" about BDSM have regarding it. So when the word "abuse" gets thrown out there in conjunction with what it is I do or what I identify as, I'm damn well going to speak up about it. It has nothing to do with picking on a poor defenseless 21 year old. It has nothing to do with your opinion that I or anyone else is acting like uptight assholes. It has EVERYTHING to do with making sure that a word with inherently negative meaning (ie. abuse) and consensual BDSM are not linked together unnecessarily. No one goes around thinking that child abuse, animal abuse, and relationship abuse are all great sunshine filled super happy fun times. Think the misconception that dominants run around abusing submissives IS a good thing? I personally don't, but that's just me.

He didn't seem to have too much trouble with it and clarified what it was he was trying to say. So why honestly do you?




instigated -> RE: Do you think a Dom would prefer me? (4/11/2013 9:06:53 PM)

If all you've got to offer a woman is the chance to sleep with you and do a few dirty things between the sheets you're not going to have much luck in or out of BDSM. Unless she's really young and kind of stupid. Usually people like that don't think through their actions. If you'd like someone like that just hang around the freshman class of your local college. You're attractive enough that you should get laid fairly easily.




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