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dinaflower -> a stupid question (6/23/2006 4:14:55 PM)

ok adam and eve were the only people on earth, and they only had 2 kids, 1 was killed but both were boys, where did cains wife come from?




mnottertail -> RE: a stupid question (6/23/2006 4:20:25 PM)

ummmmmmmmmm... it is rather nebulous, seems cain took a wife when he was banished and had a bunch of nimrods (LOL)

I think with the lack of people in them days, just about everybody was sucking and fucking.....

It may be that  Cain  did  Eve, I don't know,  ask  Oedipus....he may be hep to that situation.




feastie -> RE: a stupid question (6/23/2006 4:25:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dinaflower

ok adam and eve were the only people on earth, and they only had 2 kids, 1 was killed but both were boys, where did cains wife come from?


From Wikipedia...

After they were removed from the garden, Adam was forced to work for his food for the first time. He and Eve had three children named in Genesis: Cain, Abel, and Seth. The Book of Jubilees names two of his daughters: Azura, who married her brother Seth, and Awan, who married her brother Cain. Both Genesis and Book of Jubilees state that Adam had other children, but those other children are unnamed.
According to the Genealogies of Genesis, Adam died at the age of 930.

Link to the entire article:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam




missturbation -> RE: a stupid question (6/23/2006 4:29:24 PM)

According to the bible all humans since the beginning are sinners. It follows that all humans descended from Adam (with the exception of eve). Therefore Cains wife must have been a descendant of Adam which would mean that Cain probably married his sister. According to the bible Adam and Eve had many daughters but only three sons who are named cain, able and seth. If it was not his sister Cain married it would ahve been a very close relative. The prohibition of marriage between close relatives was not brought into force for approx 2,500 years after Adam was created.




JohnWarren -> RE: a stupid question (6/23/2006 4:36:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dinaflower

ok adam and eve were the only people on earth, and they only had 2 kids, 1 was killed but both were boys, where did cains wife come from?


He went into the land of Nod and found a wife.  Nothing in the bible says that Eden was the only place where god was creating.  The question is where was the prototype and was it registered?




missturbation -> RE: a stupid question (6/23/2006 4:41:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

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ORIGINAL: dinaflower

ok adam and eve were the only people on earth, and they only had 2 kids, 1 was killed but both were boys, where did cains wife come from?


He went into the land of Nod and found a wife.  Nothing in the bible says that Eden was the only place where god was creating.  The question is where was the prototype and was it registered?


The bible does state that all humans are the descendants of Adam and Eve. This tells you God was not creating anywhere else.




VandalHeart -> RE: a stupid question (6/23/2006 4:54:17 PM)

"And Cain went east into the land of Nod, and there he knew his wife."
--some passage in Genesis that I'm too lazy to look up the numbers for right now

As a Pagan, I like to think that this is one of those simple allusions to the fact that other pantheons fit into the Christain paradigm that the Catholic bible censors just accidentally overlooked.




dinaflower -> RE: a stupid question (6/23/2006 4:56:06 PM)

can we say Incest-r-us?




missturbation -> RE: a stupid question (6/23/2006 4:59:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dinaflower

can we say Incest-r-us?


We sure can cos if there was any shred of truth in the bible (which i doubt) thats what it would have been.




missturbation -> RE: a stupid question (6/23/2006 5:09:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VandalHeart

"And Cain went east into the land of Nod, and there he knew his wife."
--some passage in Genesis that I'm too lazy to look up the numbers for right now




Cain may well have travelled to the land of nod but it would still have been a descendant of adam he married.  All life human life descended from Adam. Actually i'm a little concerned i have bible knowledge - someone save me from godliness pleaseeeeeeee  




dinaflower -> RE: a stupid question (6/23/2006 5:13:34 PM)

i think i just opened a can of worms




TolerableCruelty -> RE: a stupid question (6/23/2006 8:56:39 PM)

If I remember right... the old testament speaks of "the others"... not actual descendants of Adam and Eve... but I could be totally wrong... this is a thread for beth to post on, she's the daughter of the parental preachers. She knows both testaments forwards and backwards... and the Torah.
(personally, I'm a godless heathen, I just think I remember her saying something of "the others" once)

T.R.




LordDominik -> RE: a stupid question (6/23/2006 9:27:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

Cain may well have travelled to the land of nod but it would still have been a descendant of adam he married.  All life human life descended from Adam. Actually i'm a little concerned i have bible knowledge - someone save me from godliness pleaseeeeeeee  


I hereby excommunicate you missturbation, and offer you as sacrafice to the Goddess of Ishtar [sm=evil.gif]
 
~ LD




Gauge -> RE: a stupid question (6/24/2006 1:06:06 AM)

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ok adam and eve were the only people on earth, and they only had 2 kids, 1 was killed but both were boys, where did cains wife come from?


She came with a fruit basket that Cain got as a nice parting gift.




michaelGA2 -> RE: a stupid question (6/24/2006 1:14:42 AM)

ya know, this sorta proves a small point i have about the bible and religion...they just do NOT make sense and the bible...to me...is a poorly written (ancient) fictional novel someone cooked up a long time ago...just my POV




Wulfchyld -> RE: a stupid question (6/24/2006 2:24:03 AM)

As for Cain, when the mourning for his brother was ended, he took his sister Luluwa and married her, without leave from his father and mother; for they could not keep him from her, by reason of their heavy heart.
He then went down to the bottom of the mountain, away from the garden, near to the place where he had killed his brother.
And in that place were many fruit trees and forest trees. His sister bare him children, who in their turn began to multiply by degrees until they filled that place.

WHEN our father Adam saw that Seth was of a perfect heart, he wished him to marry; lest the enemy should appear to him another time, and overcome him.
So Adam said to his son Seth, "I wish, 0 my son, that thou wed thy sister Aklia, Abel's sister, that she may bear thee children, who shall replenish the earth, according to God's promise to us.

 AFTER the death of Adam and of Eve, Seth severed his children, and his children's children, from Cain's children. Cain and his seed went down and dwelt westward, below the place where he had killed his brother Abel.
But Seth and his children, dwelt northwards upon the mountain of the Cave of Treasures, in order to be near to their father Adam.

she assembled all her sons and daughters, Seth with thirty brothers and thirty sisters




missturbation -> RE: a stupid question (6/24/2006 10:55:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LordDominik

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

Cain may well have travelled to the land of nod but it would still have been a descendant of adam he married.  All life human life descended from Adam. Actually i'm a little concerned i have bible knowledge - someone save me from godliness pleaseeeeeeee  


I hereby excommunicate you missturbation, and offer you as sacrafice to the Goddess of Ishtar [sm=evil.gif]
 
~ LD


Who is the godess of ishtar????????
If she is a wanton sex godess willing to do anything in the nme of sexual perversion -i hand myself over willingly lol !!
 
Just an after thought but can i actually say all that in a godly thread ?????????




MagsSC -> RE: a stupid question (6/24/2006 11:57:38 AM)

LMAO!!!  This very question got me expelled from school in my senior year!!  We were doing *round table discussions of the bible and my group drew Genesis.  I read a passage and paused to ask that very question!  I posed it to the teacher and he was so flabbergasted by my *audacity!  Needless to say, small town, Catholic school, questioning the bible and it's content and *gasp, inferring that incest might have existed????  Well duhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
Oh, btw, I did get *re-instated and did graduate that year! [;)]




JohnWarren -> RE: a stupid question (6/24/2006 2:04:58 PM)

The question didn't get me expelled, but it put me on "the list."  Later that year, I was caught reading Origin of Species during recess.  THAT was the last straw for Pawtucket Christian Day School... and I was out.

Nicest thing they ever did to me.  I moved to public school and really started learning about real stuff.




LordDominik -> RE: a stupid question (6/24/2006 3:15:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

quote:

ORIGINAL: LordDominik

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

Cain may well have travelled to the land of nod but it would still have been a descendant of adam he married.  All life human life descended from Adam. Actually i'm a little concerned i have bible knowledge - someone save me from godliness pleaseeeeeeee  


I hereby excommunicate you missturbation, and offer you as sacrafice to the Goddess of Ishtar [sm=evil.gif]
 
~ LD


Who is the godess of ishtar????????
If she is a wanton sex godess willing to do anything in the nme of sexual perversion -i hand myself over willingly lol !!
 
Just an after thought but can i actually say all that in a godly thread ?????????


She was the Babylonian Goddess of Sex, circa 5000 - 3000 BCE.  Those who chose to pay worship to her would go into her temple and have sex with one of her Priests or Priestess'.   And, becareful what you ask for.  While I am not a Priest of that faith specifically, I can certainly arrange it.
 
~ LD




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