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IF they wanted to hit the finish line, why not when it was full or when the mob was passing through. most of thew field had already passed the line. the timing is curious

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ORIGINAL: Aswad
ETA: Someone mentioned finding it "incongruent" to place a bomb at the finish line of a marathon. I submit that it's the ideal location, since people will be dehydrated and more vulnerable to blood loss, as well as exhausted. Also, the attacker may have assumed that people would gather near the finish line, rather than moving away. Or it may just have been the most convenient spot. Potentially, it could've been a targetted attack, too, meant for one person, but that seems unlikely. And, killing in itself isn't usually the goal.

IWYW,
— Aswad.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I'm thinkng domestic crazies.
Here's my logic. Over the past few decades, there have been 4 other major attacks.
When foreign powers were involved (2 WTC attacks) they were quick to claim credit.
When domestic crazies did it (Atlanta and OKC) there was silence.

I realize that 4 is a small sample size (I took statistics as well in grad school and nailed it)

I'll add that when the Islamic extremits have hit abroad (large sample size unfortunately) they quite readily claim responsibiliy.

As for their fears of retaliation, what fear? To be martyred is their highest honor.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I'm thinkng domestic crazies.
Here's my logic. Over the past few decades, there have been 4 other major attacks.
When foreign powers were involved (2 WTC attacks) they were quick to claim credit.
When domestic crazies did it (Atlanta and OKC) there was silence.

I realize that 4 is a small sample size (I took statistics as well in grad school and nailed it)

I'll add that when the Islamic extremits have hit abroad (large sample size unfortunately) they quite readily claim responsibiliy.

As for their fears of retaliation, what fear? To be martyred is their highest honor.

Also the symbolism of the day, income tax deadline and Patriot's Day, is far more important to the domestic crazies than it would be to foreigners.

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ORIGINAL: Aswad
Since there's been plenty of bickering in the other threads, I figured I'd make a thread for all the insensitive posts about the incident.

Have at it, folks, and let's keep it in this thread.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
Obama is gonna take your bombs away sort of thing or?

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
Jeffrey Goldberg is far from my favourite columnist. But he certainly caught my sentiments about the horrible events in Boston when he penned the following:
Boston Bomb Attack No Excuse for Media Speculation
"[....] But after an explosion about which we know almost nothing, and in the face of sudden, violent death at the finish line of the Boston Marathon, this is not the time to guess about the perpetrators or to recommend policy fixes that would prevent such attacks from taking place. It certainly is no time to suggest that a political party you happen not to like is to blame for a tragedy about which you know nothing.
In an era in which none of us like to leave anything unsaid, and in which technology offers us the opportunity to say things fast, we often succumb to the urge to speculate. Shortly after the 2011 shootings in Norway, I asked publicly whether a Mumbai-type attack had visited Europe, the implication being that Muslim terrorists were behind the atrocity. It was perfectly plausible to suggest that Muslim terrorists were to blame -- except that they weren’t. I learned my lesson.
Tomorrow or the next day, when law enforcement officers and journalists have done their work, there will be time to analyze and criticize and learn from whatever it is we just saw. But not today. Please, let’s wait to find out who did this and why it happened."
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-15/boston-bomb-attack-no-excuse-for-media-speculation.html
Let's take his advice and devote our thoughts to those whose loved ones were killed and injured. There will lots of time to analyse these events and learn such lessons as we can later

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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies
the usual reaction of the US when someone throws a stone at their greenhouse is to throw boulders, rocks and bucket loads of shit in the general direction of countries they don't like. I am sure some intel will pop up fairly soon pointing to somewhere far away where evil people live and then the drones will fly.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I'm thinkng domestic crazies.
Here's my logic. Over the past few decades, there have been 4 other major attacks.
When foreign powers were involved (2 WTC attacks) they were quick to claim credit.
When domestic crazies did it (Atlanta and OKC) there was silence.

I realize that 4 is a small sample size (I took statistics as well in grad school and nailed it)

I'll add that when the Islamic extremits have hit abroad (large sample size unfortunately) they quite readily claim responsibiliy.

As for their fears of retaliation, what fear? To be martyred is their highest honor.

Also the symbolism of the day, income tax deadline and Patriot's Day, is far more important to the domestic crazies than it would be to foreigners.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Civillian deaths rarely make the world a better place.

QFT.

And nobody has claimed responsibility yet, which usually means it's domestic.

IWYW,
— Aswad.

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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

Assuming this is an act of terror.........

how many people are going to die because of this? At the moment it is 2, the usual reaction of the US when someone throws a stone at their greenhouse is to throw boulders, rocks and bucket loads of shit in the general direction of countries they don't like. I am sure some intel will pop up fairly soon pointing to somewhere far away where evil people live and then the drones will fly.

How many people are going to die because of this?

Will those deaths make the world a better place?

Unless it`s state sponsored,there won`t be any mass bombings.......

If it`s political terror,either of the domestic or imported ilk,they will be brought to justice and punished.

The multiple nature of the attack tells me it`s a major operation.

if it is state sponsered........ the WMD intel re Iraq was fake, what if Iran were to be blamed for this?

Terrorist acts don't go unpunished by the US and so far it has got you where?
ps. unfortunately when I say you I have to include us ie. Britain

Will those deaths make the world a better place?

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Maybe they have finally understood that when they open their mouths they are likely to find a tomahawk flying down their throats.

You do realize you're exhibiting some of the same prejudice LL waved around on the other thread, right?

IWYW,
— Aswad.

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim
"the WMD intel re Iraq was fake,". Fake about what and according to who?

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I'm thinkng domestic crazies.
Here's my logic. Over the past few decades, there have been 4 other major attacks.
When foreign powers were involved (2 WTC attacks) they were quick to claim credit.
When domestic crazies did it (Atlanta and OKC) there was silence.

I realize that 4 is a small sample size (I took statistics as well in grad school and nailed it)

I'll add that when the Islamic extremits have hit abroad (large sample size unfortunately) they quite readily claim responsibiliy.

As for their fears of retaliation, what fear? To be martyred is their highest honor.

Also the symbolism of the day, income tax deadline and Patriot's Day, is far more important to the domestic crazies than it would be to foreigners.

I am not really certain that either Tax day or Patriot's Day had much to do with it.

I am seeing this totally differently: this was not just a an attack on a major American city; this was an attack at an International event that brings in people from all over the country and all over the world.
It is true that many of the International runners are part of the "elite" group that start and finish earlier but there were many visitors staying in the nearby hotels.


The timing of the detonations was such that maximum harm was done.
This is when most of the people will be crossing the finish line and the bystanders are made up of the friends and loved ones who ran.
And after the bombs went off, the race ended for everyone who had not yet arrived.
Many people who come to Boston to run, just want to finish and that was taken away from them.
Tied into a tragedy such as this is of course, survivor's guilt.
Terrorists terrorize and this one certainly did.