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RE: Faceslapping possible injury help - 4/16/2013 7:17:35 PM   
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<looks at the bottom of her feet from all the canings over the years, all the barefoot mountain climbing, walking on hot coals and sands, blisters, frostbite from walking on snow in her bare feet....>

huh...amazing....still have two healthy feet and all healed just in time for a new pedicure and who knows what else in store......



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RE: Faceslapping possible injury help - 4/16/2013 8:41:06 PM   
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The hand bracing does squat for detached retinas. Unlike damaged jaw joints, That shit don't fix much. The hand bracing keeps the skull and jaw relatively aligned, it does nothing for the shock wave from the impact moving through soft tissue and living bone. If the doctor gets to the detaching retina before the fovea is loose, you'll probably see normally when it all heals.


Unless you have implanted lenses, in which case the odds of reattaching a retina are slim and none.


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RE: Faceslapping possible injury help - 4/17/2013 4:30:11 PM   
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The hand bracing does squat for detached retinas. Unlike damaged jaw joints, That shit don't fix much. The hand bracing keeps the skull and jaw relatively aligned, it does nothing for the shock wave from the impact moving through soft tissue and living bone. If the doctor gets to the detaching retina before the fovea is loose, you'll probably see normally when it all heals.


Unless you have implanted lenses, in which case the odds of reattaching a retina are slim and none.


Yeah, I was thinking that too. I mean, of course it's a danger, but detached retina's are tricky things. I did full contact fighting for years and never suffered any eye damage. My Momma , on the other hand, once detached a retina turning her head too sharply.


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RE: Faceslapping possible injury help - 4/17/2013 10:33:04 PM   
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Men should actually have a very pressing motive to make sure that they engage in safe face-slapping at all time.

The jaw injury I have, when it acts up, actually causes me to not be able to continue to give a blow job (which is when it acts up most often).

If it starts, and the blow job is continued forced, my jaw locks up with my teeth tightly clenched together...

So dudes... if you value getting your cock sucked... hold her jaw whilst beating her.

LOL yep.

Former dude used to slap me and hard. Never did any of these "safety slapping" techniques I read about here. He did dislocate it from time to time, which my chiropractor would reset for me. I wouldn't say a serious dislocation, but it would "click" when I opened/closed my mouth and I couldn't open it fully, and it hurt. Chiropractor would feel both sides of my face and comment about the one side being completely out of alignment.

All is well now, though. That was years ago.

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RE: Faceslapping possible injury help - 4/18/2013 2:06:36 PM   
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Meanwhile, BATR, this is exactly why people w/o familiarity shouldn't do anything remotely concerning edge play-the potential for damage and permanent injury is simply waaaaaaaaaaay too high. So lets be clear here, when I do faceslapping, and I've done it a lot and posted safety tips here more than once,I cradle her head in my hand, going along the jawline, across a cheek with fingertips resting in her hair. That way, I've got pretty much her whole head demobilized, which prevents lots of diufferent kinds of damages.
And Ron is dead on with his boxing comments-they match my experience in fighting rings. If you're getting slapped, for fucks sake, tighten your jaw. If nothing else, it'll keep you from accidentally biting your tongue.

I really wish we still had the Sunny's Quote of the Day around here.

This thread original is a perfect example of the flaw in the "I read it on the internet, so I know how to do it" theory.


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RE: Faceslapping possible injury help - 4/18/2013 3:15:22 PM   
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It's totally possible for some other member to follow all posts everyday and pick his/her favorite quote. All it would really require is the free time to stay here all day. Several folks seem to fit the bill and never miss a post. Pick one .......luci

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RE: Faceslapping possible injury help - 4/18/2013 5:04:05 PM   
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Considering how few posts there are these days, anyone with a grain of salt of intelligence could spot the quality quickly. When it lacks, it's easy to spot. Anybody with an attention span could do the same.


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RE: Faceslapping possible injury help - 4/18/2013 9:35:09 PM   
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It's totally possible for some other member to follow all posts everyday and pick his/her favorite quote. All it would really require is the free time to stay here all day. Several folks seem to fit the bill and never miss a post. Pick one .......luci
I hope that isn't a sin or anything bad.
We all have different interests though, and I doubt the favorite chosen by one or two people would work for everyone. M


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RE: Faceslapping possible injury help - 4/18/2013 11:08:23 PM   
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Unless you have implanted lenses, in which case the odds of reattaching a retina are slim and none.


I don't think so. I have cataract replacement lenses. And had both retinas partially detach previously. Current detachment protocol is lay the patient on their back (or use air bubbles or fill the eye with silicone fluid) so the retina moves back in place then use curved nitrogen cooled probes (Cryotherapy) to reach behind the eye and freeze spots on the eye that involve the retina. The scar tissue that forms bonds the retina to the outer eye. No lens, normal or artificial, or the lens pocket are involved at any stage. Laser photocoagulation is the alternative method, creating burns that scare and bond but my attending physician and my current good friend who is a licensed Ophthalmologist prefer the freezing. Scleral buckles are normally used to hold the sclera (outer eye) against the retina during healing, detached retinas usually occurring with a tear in the retina that lets liquid Aqueous Humor leak behind the retina and expand the detachment. The buckle is placed to bring the sclera against the opening or openings in the retina. Several blocks were placed under the buckles for my multiply holed retinas. The eye doctor joke is that a few centuries down the line, only two plastic loops and a few small blocks will be left in the dust on the bottom of your casket.
Cataract patients are a elevated risk of detached retinas, normal treatments are applied with the plastic or for older treatments, glass lens in place.
As usual, Wikipedia covers the subject decently. My education was more dramatic, less voluntary.

For those with a personal or family history of detached retinas, bungee jumping with the cord attached to your feet is HIGHLY condemned by previously involved eye professionals. The sudden spike in blood pressure as maximum negative G's are delivered by the cord that stops you tends to blow whole retinas off the inside of the sclera. Which ruins your whole vacation.

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RE: Faceslapping possible injury help - 4/19/2013 10:45:40 AM   
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A great thing for face slapping that I use is repetitive light to moderate tapping with a rubber/foam object in a horizontal position going right between the cheek bone and jaw. I use a lightweight rubbery/foam piece that I cut about 3 to 4" wide and 24" long and then fold that in half like a belt. It comes from exercise flooring like that from a Bally's gym. This fabric is durable, great quality and an excellent value for around $20 per 2' x 2' square & 1" thick. It gives a very loud slapping sound with great impact but the actual force is small. I have used it many times with great effect and success. This repeated, concentrated and quick tapping will actually produce a slight sting that gets the endorphins moving quite quickly yet leaves no marks with the exception of a little pink that goes away fast. It will not dislocate your jaw or loosen any teeth as there is no real force. Be cautious to keep the subs eyes closed/covered blindfolded and don't let your partner thrash around. Rather, caress and teach them to relax between blows, as its also a great way to get them into subspace when the rhythm is good. This lightweight rubber flooring fabric can also be doubled up like a whip or paddle and be used in other areas where easy and permanent injury is concerned. It's better than literal hand slapping and force to the face or being punched, especially if you are going for many repeated face slaps. Face slapping is a lot of fun, humiliating with erotic touch. We do have to be willing and understand to be extremely cautious with every blow whatever method is used. The use of light weight leather gloves works well, just avoid the eyes, nose, neck and ears when repeated. Another tool to consider is the rubber part that is used to cover the blades on ice skates. This is a little heavier than the flooring (& needs more caution) but it has a great effect for producing that sound and sting that the Sub craves:) from being slapped in the face repeatedly. Once again, extreme force is not needed.

Holding the jaw is a good idea as well but this will not aid in the loosening of a tooth or other damage if extreme force is used and/or a long swing misses and hits the ear, eye or neck. A long hard swing should never be used as a blow to the face IMO, considering severe injury is possible even from a pillow fight. A Master needs to practice on their own face before some else:) and be reminded during the session if they have it right, by testing the amount of force & technique on themselves and use that experience as a judgment call with the slave. At times it can be easy to get carried away and forget the force used rather than the ultimate end result of satisfying the sub and yourself (which also includes hands & knuckles in tact and a pretty face that can still breathe, see, hear, chew properly and desire more face slapping at a later date:)

I have to admit though, I envy any Top who cares enough and is good enough to use their hands/fingers safely and directly in face slapping to satisfy an eager and demanding Sub. There is a real technique in the proper motions and getting it right every time. It's not done with extreme force like a punch nor a long distant swing. This is where the mistake is when Subs get injured and Tops act foolish. Proper technique kind of reminds me of a cane/whip/switch combination and how you pull back just a little on impact by using the middle to tips of your finger - more or less as a flogger and not the entire hand as a paddle.

mmm:) face slapping...what a turn on. My

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RE: Faceslapping possible injury help - 4/19/2013 5:24:20 PM   
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Ok, after reading, waiting a few days and re-reading this thread I just have to ask...

How the hell hard are some of you hitting????

I have had 3 subs over the course of the last 8 or 9 years, and although they have all enjoyed being slapped I have never found it necessary to hit even remotely hard enough to cause the type of damage some of you are talking about. If the first slap didn't sting enough then it was just as easy (and enjoyable) just to slap them again and again until the right amount of sting was felt.

Please don't get me wrong, I am not trying to condemn anyone for doing anything that they enjoy but the most prominent thought I had as I read this thread was, "Are they trying to spin someone's head off?".

Maybe I am just a different type of dominant personality I don't honestly know, but I have always considered any of my subs (even the "casual" ones), my most prized possessions. I seriously think that if I ever let myself get carried away at ANY time or for ANY reason (even if they begged for it), that I caused any injury that required medical attention I would most likely walk away from this lifestyle. Which would totally suck as I do enjoy myself immensely.

Thanks for any enlightenment that you can provide,
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RE: Faceslapping possible injury help - 4/19/2013 6:00:56 PM   
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You do realize you are amongst sadists and masochists, right???


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RE: Faceslapping possible injury help - 4/19/2013 6:34:51 PM   
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LMAO Point well taken.

And to be perfectly honest I love to cause pain, but causing injuries now may hinder or cease the ability to cause pain later.

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RE: Faceslapping possible injury help - 4/19/2013 6:44:25 PM   
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I know a few women who like to be slapped to the point of a black eye and split lip. The way I look at it, the body heals.

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RE: Faceslapping possible injury help - 4/19/2013 7:13:54 PM   
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I had a sister slave, in one relationship, who wanted to be slapped until she got a black eye. Our Dom refused. Then while playing with me, while face slapping, he accidently gave me a black eye. I was embarrased by it (one of my limits is no marks that show beyond the 'uniform line' (what I have to wear to work at the job I'm at at the time - there have been times when that's a one piece bathing suit, but it never includes a bag over the head) - and she was PISSED

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RE: Faceslapping possible injury help - 4/19/2013 7:24:53 PM   
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Master and I have talked about it on and off. I'm sure one day we'll be doing that. I don't really worry about bruises and jobs or anything. People know me as the biggest klutz in America so no bruises seem to surprise them lol.


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RE: Faceslapping possible injury help - 4/19/2013 7:54:29 PM   
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It's totally possible for some other member to follow all posts everyday and pick his/her favorite quote. All it would really require is the free time to stay here all day. Several folks seem to fit the bill and never miss a post. Pick one .......luci
I hope that isn't a sin or anything bad.
We all have different interests though, and I doubt the favorite chosen by one or two people would work for everyone. M


No, it's not anything bad. It's just that it would seem to be required if you're going to pick the "best" thing written that day. It stands to reason you'd have to be here to keep up on it all. As far as it being a good idea, it seemed to thrill a lot of people before and they keep saying they still wish it was going on. My point it that she wasn't the only one who could read everything and pick her favorite quote. I think anyone here would be quite capable if they simply had the time and desire.........luci

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RE: Faceslapping possible injury help - 4/19/2013 8:34:58 PM   
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Someone wouldn't need to be here all day. There aren't that many quotable statements.

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RE: Faceslapping possible injury help - 4/20/2013 2:48:56 AM   
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I had a sister slave, in one relationship, who wanted to be slapped until she got a black eye. Our Dom refused. Then while playing with me, while face slapping, he accidently gave me a black eye.


Giving somebody a decent, well showing, black eye is much harder than most people seem to think it is. Especially if you're at all worried about serious damage, and self-limite the location and way in which you hit.

I've been through an abusive relationship, with the guy hitting my face out of anger, and while I have a permanent jaw issue as a souvenir, I very rarely had a black eye. It happened maybe 3 times.
Despite the fact that I enjoy faceslapping a lot in BDSM context, and probably play harder than most in that way, it's never come close to giving me a black eye.

What I have had is black eye from somebody elbowing me in the face accidentally... and from hitting myself in the face with a car door.

The palm of a human hand isn't a very good tool to produce the type of bruising needed for a black eye the shock gets absorbed to much... what you need to achieve good bruising is knuckles. So tell your ex-sister slave that slapping ain't going to get her what she wants. She needs to find a guy willing to punch her in the eye. Preferable not square on, but slightly on the side. Tell her that as a bonus, if he misjudges the type of strength needed for the type of bunch that will most likely produce black eyes, but hits her in the correct location, he'll probably break her eye socket.
After considering all those things... and some of the other stuff already mentioned, going for deliberate black eyes may not be the best of ideas.

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RE: Faceslapping possible injury help - 4/20/2013 3:58:58 AM   
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I'm just curious....exactly how do you hit your own face with a car door?

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