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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 6:42:57 AM   
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RiotGirl,

In my opinion swtnsparkling's post above says it all.  I think you should ignore some of the negative crap that's been posted here and just concentrate on that one posting.

You know yourself that it was your own willingness to accept abuse that got you into this situation.  If you had realised earlier that this person had no regard for you, you would have got out of the relationship early, and not had to go through this pain.  Or, better still, wouldn't have got into the relationship in the first place.

Use the pain and the sense of failure you currently feel.  Make sure you never get in this situation again.  If you can really apply this lesson, then you stand a chance of making a good choice in the future.  If you can't learn it, then you will be doomed to repeating the cycle. 

Wishing you all the best, and hoping that the pain quickly fades.

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 6:44:03 AM   
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hmmmm, well, I'd say you are handling this all wrong. If you know he cheated on you, or at the least had the intention. Why not screw him over? I would. I wouldn't let it eat at me, I would take it out on the person that hurt me. So, instead of staring at all his shit in the house, I'd put it on the front lawn(If your name is on the lease, as in you are the legal renter, or owner), give him a call and tell him to come get his shit off the lawn because it says it's supposed to rain this afternoon. LOL. Watching him scurry around franticly picking shit up and overstuffing his car would be hilarious. Then I would call every place I knew of and inform them of his "Perverted Behaviour". Ah what better feeling than knowing you destroyed someones life, that actually deserved it. I wouldn't feel bad at all making a shithead lose his job, mistress, and outted to his family. But I wouldn't do it threw his e-mail accounts as really you have no legal right to use it. But you already have the info, so you really don't need to use them.
Wow, I guess maturity isn't you're strong point.

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Just me, but when I get fucked over, I generally focus on returning the favor, not on hating myself Additional bonus, once it is know you fuck over people that fuck you over, they think twice about it. As it reads you are just getting depressed, not doing anything, but hating yourself. Well, that's all fine if the intention is to get back with him(no comment), but I see no reason to hate yourself when you have a perfectly good target to take that out on. If the intention trully is to leave him.
Women are just lined up and beating down you door, aren't they? Proof that some people should have been a spot on a kleenex

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Now, I'm not talking about anything illegal, or violent. But just passing along information. That's not illegal. LOL. But old fashioned getting even.

Alright people, I don't know who put the computer in the monkey cage but could you please stop. People with some real helpful advise would like to post but they can't due to laughing at assinine shit like this. Grow up already.


Calling someone immature and then saying they should have been a spot on a kleenex. Hmmmmm, If you are going to call someone immature, at least attempt to be mature yourself.

Anyway, So, what exactly is wrong with the advice. If someone screws you over, you screw them over. I guess, your advice would be if someone screws you over, hold your ankles. hmmm.



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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 6:47:13 AM   
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Anyway, So, what exactly is wrong with the advice. If someone screws you over, you screw them over. I guess, your advice would be if someone screws you over, hold your ankles. hmmm.

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 6:53:55 AM   
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Anyway, So, what exactly is wrong with the advice. If someone screws you over, you screw them over. I guess, your advice would be if someone screws you over, hold your ankles. hmmm.


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Another great Saturday morning visual.. <grin>


There is an alternative.  Walk away with your ethics intact.

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 6:57:15 AM   
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Anyway, So, what exactly is wrong with the advice. If someone screws you over, you screw them over. I guess, your advice would be if someone screws you over, hold your ankles. hmmm.



Another great Saturday morning visual.. <grin>


There is an alternative.  Walk away with your ethics intact.


True enough, but if you read Riot Girls post, you'd see it reads as if she is internalizing the event, and talking of not wanting to be born, and depression. My view in such cases it would be much better to do something "immature" like throwing clothes on the lawn, and getting at laugh when he picks them up as opposed to to sitting and letting the depression well inside. Either way, people can disagree, but in her case I think it would be healthier for her to do something than nothing and just dwell on it as appears she is doing.

edited for typo probably more but saw one. LOL


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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 6:57:50 AM   
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He was the first to break trust from what I understand. Once you fuck with someone's life all bets are off as far as I'm concerned. He could have been honest and then I would agree with you.


You nailed it meatcleaver.... when someone breaks your trust in such a way... then all bets are off. Personally, I think she's handling it quite well. If if were me... oh hell yeah, I would have deleted every account I could, I would have changed passwords right after emailing every other person he was "playing". Of course, I'm one vindictive bitch.
 
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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 7:01:07 AM   
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ahhh, a woman after my own little black heart!



Yep. Ethics is for saints.

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 7:02:54 AM   
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Actually the reality is that there are ALOT of people that just really suck! I can remember a time when I used to pretty much hate the whole world, trust no one and think that everyone was just waiting to shit on me. Not true. The truth is that we get what we put out there.
Riot, take care of yourself first, your daughter and keep up with all the great self growth stuff I saw you type the other day. Let go of the negative angry crap cuz babe, its just not going to do one bit of good. It may make you feel better temporarily but in the big picture its only going to suck you deeper down. Walk away, let his karma bite him in the ass. It will. It always does. Deal with your own. Heal yourself. I like you, I respect your spunk and sassy attitude, put your big girl panties on and kick the looser to the curb and do whats right for you and your daughter.

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 7:07:50 AM   
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Walk away, let his karma bite him in the ass. It will. It always does. Deal with your own. Heal yourself.


He will get bit in the ass, just like LaTigresse says. My ex-husband developed multiple myeloma 6 months after I left him. He died just over 2 years later. Even my truly saintly mother said "There *is* a God!" when she learned about his illness. People who do nasty stuff to other people get shite on by karma/fate/God sooner or later.

I've been out of the relationship for 3 years. He's been dead for 4 months. MY life is great. He's dead. 'Nuff said.

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 7:13:29 AM   
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I look at life and I don't see any karma. I see the weak, the naive and the trusting getting pissed on. If a person bites and they don't get bit back they will bite again.

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 7:13:33 AM   
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Walk away, let his karma bite him in the ass. It will. It always does. Deal with your own. Heal yourself.


He will get bit in the ass, just like LaTigresse says. My ex-husband developed multiple myeloma 6 months after I left him. He died just over 2 years later. Even my truly saintly mother said "There *is* a God!" when she learned about his illness. People who do nasty stuff to other people get shite on by karma/fate/God sooner or later.

I've been out of the relationship for 3 years. He's been dead for 4 months. MY life is great. He's dead. 'Nuff said.


I have to agree with you here sublizzie... I lived in hell for eleven years and when I finally got out of there I moved 2000 miles away from him. From what I've heard from my kids... his new wife wears the pants and he is sincerely paying for all he put me through. Gotta love Karma.
 
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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 7:19:09 AM   
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I look at life and I don't see any karma. I see the weak, the naive and the trusting getting pissed on. If a person bites and they don't get bit back they will bite again.


Well meat, thats why ya are seeing it! If it is what you expect to see, you will.

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 7:27:38 AM   
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NTUY has a valid point - but so do others. I always pay attention to NTUY - though I do not necessarily always agree - because he has one of the sharpest minds on CM.
 
It is as smilezz says: choices need to be made. NTUY offers one choice and others offer equally valid other choices. Whether RG takes up any or more of them, is up to her, though.

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 7:27:43 AM   
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I love that!

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 7:37:10 AM   
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NTUY has a valid point - but so do others. I always pay attention to NTUY - though I do not necessarily always agree - because he has one of the sharpest minds on CM.
 
It is as smilezz says: choices need to be made. NTUY offers one choice and others offer equally valid other choices. Whether RG takes up any or more of them, is up to her, though.


Hmmmm, you must not like being popular. LOL. Thanks though for the compliment. It seems alternative views aren't so easily digested by some on here. I don't understand why it get's personal though.

Sidenote... The netherlands from what I read rocks by the way. One of the few countries I would actually want to visit.

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 7:57:11 AM   
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Anyway, So, what exactly is wrong with the advice. If someone screws you over, you screw them over. I guess, your advice would be if someone screws you over, hold your ankles. hmmm.



Another great Saturday morning visual.. <grin>


There is an alternative.  Walk away with your ethics intact.


True enough, but if you read Riot Girls post, you'd see it reads as if she is internalizing the event, and talking of not wanting to be born, and depression. My view in such cases it would be much better to do something "immature" like throwing clothes on the lawn, and getting at laugh when he picks them up as opposed to to sitting and letting the depression well inside. Either way, people can disagree, but in her case I think it would be healthier for her to do something than nothing and just dwell on it as appears she is doing.

edited for typo probably more but saw one. LOL



Short term, maybe.  But I've found that the kind of shallow, vindictive behavior that is being bandied around has a habit of doing long term damage to a person's .... (for want of a better word) soul.

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 8:04:53 AM   
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Short term, maybe.  But I've found that the kind of shallow, vindictive behavior that is being bandied around has a habit of doing long term damage to a person's .... (for want of a better word) soul.


Or, put another way, why let them drag you down to their level? I prefer to keep to the high ground myself. I can look myself in the mirror and sleep at night. If I'd made a mess of my ex-husband's life when I left, I wouldn't be able to do that now.

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 8:09:07 AM   
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 But no, i've this little girl who i have to be here for.  For the first time in my life, i regret having her.  Because if i didnt have her, i could go off and finish the destruction of me.

You said you are not having suicidal thoughts? In fact you said "Don't be rediculous" when it was mentioned that you are. Suggestion, instead of sitting there on your great big pitty party chair, take your girl to a relative and go and get yourself help. You say you will fuck her up "one day", try this day, if you do not go and get some help.

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This is not a "today" thing.  It is not a yesterday thing.  Its a long process in the making.  Its life.  It is my life.  It is what i have struggled against for so long. 
  You are right, this has been happening for a long long time. I can't count the number of posts you have made about your "Master" who wouldnt get off the couch to find a job, who didnt pay a lick of attention to you, who spent hours on the computer, who neglected you, period. You act surprised that he didnt love you. C'mon, he has been screaming it at you for years.
 

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He never loved me.  This man i called Master.  i allowed myself to be fooled, because i so wanted what love, comfort, safety.  i so wanted what everyone else seemed to get.  What gets ripped away from me time and time again, leaving me broke.
 

 
I'm sorry you are just now realizing this fact. You wanted love, comfort and safety? According to you, he never gave you any of these things.
 

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i figured out his passwords and i read his emails.  Emails.. oh god.. those emails. 
He played me.  He played me well.  i oddly do not even want to seek some sort of vengence for myself. 


 
I will tell you what I told Mew, you had no right, no business at all going through his emails. He broke up with you, what right did that give you to snoop through his personal emails? Pandora's box.
 

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Every one fucking beats me - i can never wim


As ReflectiveSoul said so often, you are responsible for your own feelings. I say this, if everyone beats you, then you allow everyone to beat you. If you never win, then you have chosen to never win.


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It's probably best to consider him a complete shit and just move on.


Excellent advice. I agree.
 

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A beautiful little girl that i will probably one day fuck her over.", please rest assured, we all fuck over our children in one way or another. It is just another part of life --- I have even heard it said it is our job to fuck them over so they can grow!


If someone knows that they are going to "fuck over" their child, then they should seek help and stop themselves from doing it. If one thinks that the child will be better off without them, then love them enough to let them go. No excuse for fucking over someone that can't defend themselves against a mother who is so filled with pity and rage that they cant think past themselves, or their own pain.  I know, I had the same type of mother.
 

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Yeah anyways.  Dont give pity - or sympathy.  i dont want words of care.  Just beat on me, k?  i deserve it i really do.  i KNOW better then to fall into this trap.  i knew better then to trust him  Yet i allowed it.  i allowed all of it.  i allowed to be treated like i did.  i allowed his lies.  i allowed it period. 


Yes, you did allow it. That much you did get right.
 

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i dont NEED ANY FUCKING PITY or sympathy.  So stop it please.  just tell me - i told you so.  Your a fucking stupid bitch. 

 
No, I won't call you any names nor will I give you any pity or sympathy. You are responsible for how you are feeling right now. Because of your inability or your refusal to make healthy choices, you are where you are right now. I am not saying that you deserve to be hurting, but I do think that you got some really fantastic advice here about 8 months ago, and you chose to ignore it, even though you asked for the advice. Many people have tried to reach out and help you here. We all learn from our mistakes, I hope you take this as a life lesson and know that the next time something seems to good to be true, it usually is. 
  
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because it never occured me that he never loved me.  God he'd look me in the eyes with such sincerity and tell me he loved me. 

Riotgirl..I think it did occur to you that he didnt love you. You just didnt want to see it.
 

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call me what you like.  attention seeker, drama queen, retard, deserving.  i dont care.  i wrote it cos i was in shock and lost and didnt know what to do.  Yay me.  i'm a collarme loser.  No worries.  i'm like out of here when this is done.  No more of my emotions, no more of my rants.. no more of my annoying posts.  Yall should count yourselves lucky and atleast give me this one last time to work through something.  I mean hell, you get so much in return


You are bound and determined to have people call you names. You are not alone here, there are many who have put themselves out there to get stomped on and hurt. It is LIFE and it is happening as I type this. The only thing you can do, is get out of his email box and move on. Take your little one to the park, play with her, get your mind off of you and on to her.
 


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p.s and i'm not having suicidal thoughts.  Dont be ridiculous


Your posts give every indication that you are having suicidal thoughts. Wishing you were dead, wishing that you would of succeeded your suicide attempt at age 19. These are suggestions of suicidal thoughts. 

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Ok... so you ask to be chastised and then get upset when that wish is granted.

you're off base

  How is she off base? You got exactly what you came here and asked for.
 
I dont think anyone has posted any negative comments. I think that all of us have posted what we feel. Maybe you didnt come here looking for responses, but you posted on a public board and we are posting back to you on that same public forum.
 
I hope that you take care of you. Your little one depends on  you to take care of her. Take some of this energy that you are using for anger and rage and turn it into something positive that benefits you and your child.
 
Good luck to you, Riotgirl. I do hope you can move past this and allow those who love you to comfort you and help give you the strength to take care of those who really need you the most. You and your girl.

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 8:22:25 AM   
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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 8:40:38 AM   
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Short term, maybe.  But I've found that the kind of shallow, vindictive behavior that is being bandied around has a habit of doing long term damage to a person's .... (for want of a better word) soul.



Okay, but I don't see throwing clothes on the front are as vidictive behavior that's just funny, and no one is damaged in the act. Sure it's a purely symbolic act. Most things that mark changes (separation, joining) are symbolic. And personally, if someone was cheating on me with someone else I'd think it my right and obligation to tell the person so they could make a decision if they want to be with someone like that. Maybe the job thing is offbounds, as it has little to do with the relationship. I'll hand that over. Unless they used that as a excuse to do the questioned acts or performed them there. Then they brought it into the equation.  But I honestly don't get why it is shallow behaviour to tell other the people the truth. And even telling his family that he cheated and left, what's wrong with that morally? I assume she has a relationship with them to some degree, and they will ask what happened. You are going to have to tell mutual friends, I'm sure the one that already lied will lie again. So, my truth, or their lies. Either way, when dealing with people with no moral character one can't expect them to act morally in regards to your name or well being. So, unless you are comfortable being trashed, you almost have to tell your side if you want to maintain a reputation with the co-mingled group involved. So, telling everyone someone else is a certified grade A piece of shit liar. Well it's true, who cares if it makes one feel better and hurts the liar. The only problem I would see is if one lied in the process then it would be a ethics issue. But morally corrupt people tend to have plenty of skeletons, so no need.

Shallow vindictive behaviour, maybe, but not anything to lose sleep over. In the scale of things I'd judge all the actions  mildly vindictive to necessary. Afterall, this kind of action is only called for when dealing with liars, cheats, thieves, etc....  People that lost there status as people I'd care about at all.

As far I go, I've only had one relationship get down to that level, and it was a business relationship. Ugly. Almost came down to a brawl. Generally, I'm pretty good at spotting things early and cutting it off before it gets to that point.(which is also a problem, but my advice was dealing with someone that sounds depressed NOW, not later) But should It occur in a long time relationship regardless of the relationship, would I feel an obligation to hold the higher ground when dealing with someone swimming in the sewer. No.

A mutual split is one thing. And generally when that occurs you are dealing with two good people. A split that occurs where there is long term deceit, well that is another thing entirely and the others reputation is alreay made, your just informing others.

Anyway, It seems we don't agree. But I deal with people the way the deal with me. You treat me with respect, you get respect. You lie, cheat, steal, etc... Well, then I will not treat you with respect, and will openly tell anyone that you lie, cheat, steal, etc... To me a person shouldn't screw people over if they don't want others telling people you screw people over.



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