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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 11:32:57 AM   
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i look at this happy smiling face i have here.  Asking me.. is that funny mom?  Isnt that a pretty dress?  Look Mom!  Her little websites she loves so much.  Her "hey mom"  i want that.  You know she wants everything.  God she's got more toys then i can manage to get cleaned up.  more shoes then me.  i've tried to do best by her.  We live in a really nice house, a pool in the back yard, all the animals she could possibly want in a really great neighborhood.  I moved to an area where she can be surrounded by trees and nature - a good place for kids to live.  i would say there is nothing she could want.  Except i know that she wants everything.  Ever toy she sees.  i've spoiled her rotten at times.  i do my best to give her what i cant seem to find for myself.  Happiness.  All i want for her, is to be happy, how ever she finds it.

You know i would think i should give her away.  But then to who?  There is no one in my family that is concievable.  There is always adoption, but how can i be sure they will be good to her?  She loves me so much.  How could i hurt her like that?  To leave her?  To send her away?  It would crush her. 

i think all i can do now for her, is hide my tears and muster up all my strength and be strong for her.  She deserves that.  She deserves to hear - "hey things didnt go well with Daddy and mommy and him are breaking up" And to be there for her, whatever she feels.  Being strong and pretending to be okay - so it seems like it isnt all that bad.  Just another concidence of life.  Maybe she'll be okay.  God bless her soul, maybe she'll be okay

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 11:42:34 AM   
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i take my bi polar med thinking "maybe maybe it'll save me from throwing my life away"  i've this terrible habit of throwing my life away when i get so desolate.  Only to eventually pic up the pieces and try to put myself together again. 

god what the hell is wrong with me?  WHY AM I LIKE THIS.  WHAT the FUCK is WRONG WITH ME.  Could some one for the LOVE OF OF GOD please tell me so i can go fix it? 

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 11:46:00 AM   
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She will be ok... and to be honest if her daddy is that hurtfull to her mommy it is so much better that he is gone fo her for you... I know now it seems like things will never be good again and maybe Im way off base but you have her and you love her more then life and she loves you and she depends on you and youv dont good by her so far!!!! let her inosence and love pull you through let it show you there is good in the world that she is the good in the world and she came from you (Im rabling) Be the wonderfull independed woman you are do you classes and for ones live for you and live for your girl do all the fun things you said you were planning on doing in your other post... no youll still feel pain it is inevatable when someone has been treated as poorly as you have, but your young dont let him take your life from you dont give him anymore time then he has already taken!!! Im sorry I know you didnt want simpathy or pitty and i dont pitty you but I do feel for you and it saddens me to see how badly you have been hurt.....

I want to reach out to you I want to help.... if you wana talk drop me a line I listen good

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 12:06:27 PM   
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RiotGirl, Here are some things to think about:
 
First of all, a child does NOT need two parents to develop into beautiful adults---that is a fallacy---when one starts the parent dujour routine, they cause more harm than good most of the time---children need love, discipline, structure---end of story.
 
Secondly, yep you spoiled her, it IS reversible--she loves you and trust Me she loves you with 1 toy or 199 toys---their hearts are pure, they only know what we teach them--stop the cycle now---she does not need a "house with things", she needs a "home with love" that can happen anywhere--one room or 40--but it starts with you.
 
Hug her--lots--- its YOUR healing not hers, it will help her see that people make mistakes but they survive--feel love to and through her---that can be a framework for rebuilding--after all they ask nothing of us beyond the basics I mentioned above.
 
You're bipolar, it colors everything--last night you were on the down side, be very careful coming back up that you do not talk yourself back in to lala land---use your upswing to get your feet on the ground and STOP the madness---if you are on meds, then you have a Dr, get someone to help you take the baby steps---yes you have made mistakes, you have also been a victim when you weren't old enough to fight back, now you are---
 
We are all at the mercy of our self fulfilling prophecies---as long as you say " I'll just end up there" you will unwittingly make the decisions that get you there---recognize the things you have done RIGHT and hang on to those as if they were a life raft--because they are--
 
and this time start the journey---one step forward at a time.

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 12:27:20 PM   
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What do most people do to hysterical people? You slap them.


I have a sister who is a Physician's Assistant in an inner city emergency room, my brother and his wife are doctors (Cardiologist and Infectious Disease Specialist respectively),  and my sister and stepfather are lawyers.  For the first two years of my sister's legal career she handled death row appeals.  Now ALL of these people and their collegues deal with hysterical people on a daily basis and they do not go around slapping people.  Just who on earth are YOU hanging out with?

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 12:43:05 PM   
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girl...you desire someone to slap you a reality check here it is....STOP IT...stop creating a self fulfilling prophecy. Fine you fucked up ALOT in your opinion...repeatedly...wanna know HOW to fix it? slowly. carefully. one day at a time by making small decisions that are success oriented.

stay on your own for a while a long while not a month or 6 months but a long long while making daily choices for you both. start small what food to eat that is healthy good bed times exercise routinges books to read..  I am sure even you can create a daily routine where you wont fuck up.

When you are feeling confident that you can prevent a bad hair day allow yourself to go out with friends DO NOT drink when you go out on excusrions just go out someplace safe slowly acclimate to making good choices.

journal each day everything you do right. you washed the laundry kudos. you put away the dishes kudos. you tucked in your girl and told her you love her double kudos. you made sure the girl ate her veggies more kudos...see you are doing it making right choices. eventually you will get the self confidence to make bigger choices again.

when he made me feel like shit i hurt myself. what did that accomplish? NOTHING. I had to stop and say know what I controlled that situation because I allowed it to happen and just like I allowed that negativity in my life I can control it NOT coming in My life. Some days I miss him and  I hurt and think god that feeling never goes away but even as I sit here and write this to you it hurts less it is a memory not an emotion and I think of what I have done right today....I took my medication for my swollen muscles. I didnt over do things today and hurt myself. I let them pull the weeds in the yard so I could rest taking care of ME so I can effectively take care of them...I'm not that failuure he said I was Im not that lazy loser...Im not that pathetic weak person and guess what I suspect you are not either. SO STOP SAYING YOU ARE and start proving youre NOT.

Above all else accept you have pain and that you are grieving and that it WILL take a long time to heal and get over. I do not know how long you were with him, I was with mine for years. It DOES get better I promise. I also can tell you it doesnt get better over night and that part sucks. If you need to talk im me email me etc. I am here to listen to the rants I wont judge just listen and point out you did leave you are getting better and stronger just in that one act you DID do SOMETHING right...

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 12:48:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

i take my bi polar med thinking "maybe maybe it'll save me from throwing my life away"  i've this terrible habit of throwing my life away when i get so desolate.  Only to eventually pic up the pieces and try to put myself together again. 

god what the hell is wrong with me?  WHY AM I LIKE THIS.  WHAT the FUCK is WRONG WITH ME.  Could some one for the LOVE OF OF GOD please tell me so i can go fix it? 



Nothing is wrong with you except your attitude toward yourself. You have value and worth. You are intelligent and wise. You just don't see yourself that way right now.

Look at yourself the way your unmentionable sees you. You are the most important person in her world. No one else is as important as you are. If you want to "fix it" then look at yourself and accept who you really are. You aren't the horrible person you are painting yourself to be unless you choose to be that person. Choose not to. Choose to be who you really are and who your unmentionable needs you to be. Take your meds. See your physicians. Take care of your unmentionable. Look at yourself and make the choice to BE who you really are in all of the positives that entails.

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 12:50:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

i take my bi polar med thinking "maybe maybe it'll save me from throwing my life away"  i've this terrible habit of throwing my life away when i get so desolate.  Only to eventually pic up the pieces and try to put myself together again. 

god what the hell is wrong with me?  WHY AM I LIKE THIS.  WHAT the FUCK is WRONG WITH ME.  Could some one for the LOVE OF OF GOD please tell me so i can go fix it? 



Im Bipoler also.. it really fucks with your head!!! hang in threre please we are here for you (at least some of us) 

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 1:34:48 PM   
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god what the hell is wrong with me?  WHY AM I LIKE THIS.  WHAT the FUCK is WRONG WITH ME.  Could some one for the LOVE OF OF GOD please tell me so i can go fix it? 


RG:
Ok, you have a crisis going on in your life and you come to a Message Board to help vent. Good, nothing wrong with that. It is now the next day and you are obviously in crisis. your writing/thought process is all over the place with flight of ideas.
Take one serious step to proving to * yourself * <not us> that you are serious..
Call your therapist.. today. Get actual real life support and advice from someone who knows you and has the tools to help you get thru this. Deal with your crisis in a real life manor.
This is just MHO, but as long as you continue to use the internet as a sounding board and believe the answers to your problems are here, you will continue on the same path.
I can see in your latest posts, your usual softening ... I fully expect to hear in a few days that all is well and you and your Master have come to some sort of agreement.
Do yourself a favor....call your therapist. if you don't have one, call a crisis intervention center. Do something... anything tangible to take a first step to helping yourself.

                       mbmbn

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 1:49:00 PM   
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i have showered shaved and dressed

he always tells me it helps.

the native americans atleast i think its them

cut off their hair when some one they love has died

i have cut off all of my hair.  11 inches of it

he wanted me to grow it out

i'm not done with it yet

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 1:52:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

i have showered shaved and dressed

he always tells me it helps.

the native americans atleast i think its them

cut off their hair when some one they love has died

i have cut off all of my hair.  11 inches of it

he wanted me to grow it out

i'm not done with it yet



Please have something good come out of this.
And it will help you get out of your own head for a bit.

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 1:52:22 PM   
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The healing process has begun.

Good Girl.


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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 1:58:34 PM   
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the native americans atleast i think its them

cut off their hair when some one they love has died

My people cut off the hair of the one who has died.
 
Riotgirl..I truly believe you shouldnt be doing anything rash right now. ANYTHING. This just happened yesterday, give yourself time to adjust before making drastic decisions. I agree with Maybemaybenot, please call a therapist or someone who can really help you. Part of taking back your control is being in control of yourself.

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 2:04:11 PM   
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I have been reading RG's posts for about six month now, I guess. Apparently I missed a lot of significant posts before that time.
 
I know that she is worthy. I did not know that he was not worthy - though I never could understand why he had to work in another town and why she could not accompany him; that was a red flag if ever I saw one.
 
You are worthy, RG. You are true.
 
I think that you can tell your little one that you are sad and ask her to comfort you and to comfort you often. You think that you must be strong for her, but give her some credit and responsibility: the little ones have great strength and compassion and they will give it freely if only you ask for it and allow them to do so.
 
It does worry me that you appear to be so isolated, that you do not appear to have a real life social network.
 
You have been given good advice here by many people. Good spiritual advice also.
 
You already made a number of good, positive choices before this latest crisis. You have taken steps to do math classes and yoga classes and to work or volunteer for 'meals on wheels'. Those are winning strategies. An added benefit is that they will also contribute to your social network. You live in a great neighbourhood and are proud of your little one and now have freed yourself thanks to your intelligence from the unworthy one that was bull-shitting you. Things do look up.
 
Be positive. You are a good and worthy person and do deserve happiness. Tell yourself that and tell it to the universe, repeatedly, daily, when you are brushing your teeth in front of a mirror or doing the dishes or whatever. Good things happen to those who expect them and are confident that they will receive them. As I said before: have faith. (I am not talking about religion.)
 
Always go for the attainable goals, tasks that you can do and that will make you feel good when accomplished.
 
As for your mental state, it may be influenced by your physical health. I do not have a degree in those things, but I have been writing a book about the main cause of chronic diseases and perhaps can advise you on the other side about health issues. (A few people have benefitted from such advice before.)

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 2:07:33 PM   
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Riot Girl,
 
Now that you have no doubt that your "Master" is trouble, the next step is to break it off.  Print out your proof of his behavior.  Write a letter stating that you know what he's done and you are not interested in any further contact or explanation.  Declare the relationship over.  Neatly place his things outside and tell him to come and get them.
 
Once that's done, never speak to him again.  Don't accept phone calls from him, don't read e-mails from him, don't IM him, don't open your door to him.  As far as you are concerned, he does not exist.
 
Focus on your daughter.  First of all, know that spoiling her sets her up for unhappiness later in life, as she'll never have enough.  Material things are not the answer.  Love is.  Hug her.  Spend time with her.  Your time and company are what she needs most.  Take her to the library and read a children's book with her.  Take her to the park and watch her play on the playground.  Push her on a swing a little.  Don't focus on your perceived guilt.  What's done is done.  Look forward.  Make your relationship with your daughter a real one of love and not something superficially bought from a store.
 
Then you'll have something worthwhile.
 
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Edited to note that you do not have to have a 'daddy' figure for your girl.  If you have a relationship with a man, it should be based on love.  He should clearly love both you and your girl.  But don't go out trying to seduce a daddy for her.  That generally backfires.  You can care for her yourself, Hon.  You already know she loves you.

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 2:10:33 PM   
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There comes this point in desperation that we realize all else has failed and the only option left is to either keep on doing what we’ve been doing, or reluctantly take the reigns and go find more options.

Every time we hit rock bottom, we grab a shovel and make the bottom deeper so we can hit it again.
Rock bottom is different for everyone. Maybe drugs and alcohol, loss of education, loss of a job, family dynamics, eating disorders, being pimped out on the internet, seeing that perfect relationship fly out the window, losing our child, self mutilation, the 12th suicide attempt, a life of crime, whatever…

When you are there, as much as you feel like you want things to be better, you are comfortable exactly where you are. And you don’t even realize that what you are calling misery is actually comfort.

I keep fucking up because fucking up my life is all I know and the prospect of not fucking up my life is scary. Being responsible is unknown turf. Being careful is outside my box. Being accountable seems like a goal I’ll never be able to live up to. I can’t. Even if I tried, I would fail. So I will sit here in my comfort zone even though I know that this comfort zone will get me no where except more misery.

It’s only when you get so god damn blasted sick and fucking tired of being so sick and fucking tired of being sick and tired, that you really don’t know what else to do.

So you try medication, and you try therapy, and you try a vacation, and you try a different relationship, and you try church, and you try family, and you try friends, and you try this and that and the other,
and there’s this nagging voice muttering some shit in the back of your mind that you can’t understand,
and you’re laying in your pit of misery and then finally the voice becomes a little more clear.
You have to try nothing except you.

And well, that didn’t help a bit. I don’t even know who I am anymore. I have nothing and the few things I do have I ruin and the few people I do have I’m hurting. I don’t know where I’m going. I don’t know what I’m doing. I wouldn’t know happiness if it was sitting in front of me.

It’s a lonely place to be. And that loneliness is exactly what it takes. When there’s no pill, no counselor, no significant other, no family, no friends, no NOTHING. It only leaves one option. You.

And you want to cry because responsibility wasn’t part of the plan. But crying is long gone. You don’t get that option anymore. You don’t get the option of self pity anymore. You don’t get the option of abusive relationships anymore. You don’t get the option of suicide anymore. You don’t get the option of self-harm anymore. You don’t get the option of drugs and alcohol and binging and purging and meaningless sex and masochism. You don’t get the option of hitting rock bottom. You don’t get the option of beating your head against the wall. You don’t get the option of giving up.
You used up all those options.
The only thing left is… you.

When you realize that you are the only option left, the path you need to take becomes clear, one little tiny step at a time. You no longer see "all my life I’ve been a failure" (remember, self pity is no longer an option). What you do see is a mess and 2 tiny things that need done. I need to pick this up and sit it there. Then you see another tiny thing that needs done. I need to say "today my option is me."

Over time, this goes here, and that goes there. That child needs a meal. I need a breath of fresh air. Shoes go by the door. We’re going to start eating at the kitchen table. I’m going to wear a comfortable outfit. I’m going to wear a bit of eyeliner. I have to pay that bill. That child needs a hug.

The big things aren’t in view. There’s no relationships to worry about. No house to purchase. No degree to obtain. No promotion to seek out. No weight to lose.
Those things are far, far away for now. Maybe someday they need confronted, but for now, you’re only an army of one and the battles must be kept small.
And that’s all there is. Just tiny little battles that you and you alone are fighting. (Remember, ignoring it is no longer an option.)

Pretty soon you learn to cry again and the tears offer a bit of relief.
Then you learn to laugh again.
In time, you learn to love again.

Providing the neccesities in life for your child and yourself becomes routine and through establishing that routine, you grew a little, became a little stronger, and got a little bit farther out of that pit of misery and away from rock bottom. So now you’re a stronger person and ready to take on the next battle. Now that we have basic needs met, I can work on proper discipline, or quality time, or communication.

And all the while, you’re child is growing up. But instead of seeing the hopeless, helpless parent who wallows in self-misery, she’s seeing the weak parent become strong. She’s seeing mom overcome obstacles a little at a time. She’s seeing perseverance, and determination, and tenacity. She sees someone with hope. Someone who takes responsibility. Someone who is accountable for their own actions.
Remember, all those qualities you felt were so far away and unobtainable? Now you are displaying them.

And under it all, you learn to give pause and smile at the basic down-to-earth concept that some days still suck.
And that you’ll never be perfect.
But that’s ok. Perfection wasn’t the goal.
Remember, you couldn’t even figure out what the goal was?
All you know is that today is a little bit better than yesterday.
All you know is that you never again want to be where you were a year ago.
And soon enough, that’s not even a concern.
Going back to that pit of misery, blaming others, blaming yourself, cries for attention, unsurity, self-harm, and that desolate lonely rock-bottom (that really felt so comfortable), simply isn’t somewhere you want to be.
You crawled out. You found comfort outside of that realm. You fought the battles to be a better person.
And you did it alone – because the only option was – you.

Guess who gets all the credit for the wonderful person you become?
You.


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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 2:15:23 PM   
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Millions of people suffer with depression, and a great many from bipolar disorder.  You may not see it through your eyes now, but there IS hope.  Reach out to others, just as you are doing now, and by all means, think of your daughter and how much she need you.  You were put here for a reason, and right now...right this minute...SHE is your reason for living.

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 2:27:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TolerableCruelty

The healing process has begun.

Good Girl.


T.R.


NO you are quite wrong she is spiralling out of control in a classic manic mode--right in front of her child--how lovely her decisions now?
 
Unless she gets to a therapist or speaks to someone she won't stop---this TR is DESTRUCTIVE behavior not CONSTRUCTIVE and this isn't reality TV folks.

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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 2:28:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou

Anyway, So, what exactly is wrong with the advice. If someone screws you over, you screw them over. I guess, your advice would be if someone screws you over, hold your ankles. hmmm.


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RE: Played - to unconcievable depths - 6/24/2006 2:30:43 PM   
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There comes this point in desperation that we realize all else has failed and the only option left is to either keep on doing what we’ve been doing, or reluctantly take the reigns and go find more options.

[Snipped for the sake of brevity.]




Stunning!  Beautifully-written and speaks to and from the heart!

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