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RiotGirl -> RE: Played - to unconcievable depths (6/24/2006 5:06:50 PM)

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Riotgirl..I truly believe you shouldnt be doing anything rash right now. ANYTHING. This just happened yesterday, give yourself time to adjust before making drastic decisions. I agree with Maybemaybenot, please call a therapist or someone who can really help you. Part of taking back your control is being in control of yourself.


there is no one that can help me.  Dont you see its why i've always come here?

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The truley sad part is that RG is so out of control manic at the moment that she probably isn't even reading the advice given her.


yeah whater.  Why dont you just go. and....  Ppl always try and use that against me.  Kelly your fucked in the head.  Hey even Rob did it.  You're a negative person kelly.. kelly this and kelly that.  Yeah screw you too






indybbwsubbie -> RE: Played - to unconcievable depths (6/24/2006 5:10:33 PM)

This indysubbie has been played - over and over and over again.  Becoming quite used to it - and seems that i must just attract liars and players - as they must think i do not deserve any better........

and life goes on.......

indy subbie

"to chain the body is to free the soul"




RiotGirl -> RE: Played - to unconcievable depths (6/24/2006 5:11:42 PM)

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Declare the relationship over. Neatly place his things outside and tell him to come and get them.


i am waiting for him to majically appear from where ever he's been for 2 days.  Soon as he appears...  now i just wait




scratchingpost -> RE: Played - to unconcievable depths (6/24/2006 5:17:18 PM)

If she feels safe and comfortable venting here why tell her to stop? just let US be responsible in the advice we offer while she is hurting and make sure to not flame her but encourage her to cry it out talk it out speak with her therapist encourage her to do her best to let it out here so when she is away from the computer she can be functional...does anyone live nearby her to perhaps check on her or call her on the phone to make sure she is alright? She might be ranting here but fine off line....she might not so is there a way to confirm she is alright? 




sophia37 -> RE: Played - to unconcievable depths (6/24/2006 5:20:31 PM)

He's an asshole but YOU want to die? Better to wish him dead and you get on with the art of living. We've all been fucked over.

Your life is no mistake. Make the best of it. You know whats right and you obviously know whats wrong. So do right. Live right. You'll be right for it. Believe it. 




Wulfchyld -> RE: Played - to unconcievable depths (6/24/2006 5:21:39 PM)

Riot I really don't know anything about your situation, but I will assume you have the means to support yourself and if not are considering at this moment how you will do that.




RiotGirl -> RE: Played - to unconcievable depths (6/24/2006 5:29:58 PM)

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If you look at the things you've tried to give your child, with your best intentions you may see that there are no *perfect* parents.....most are adequate.


No there arent.  i wouldnt mind being so.  You know she's 5 and i'm teaching her addition.  She does fairly well.  She's spelling too.  Got my little flash cards out.  When she learns enough words, i'm gonna break out her books and she's gonna start reading them.

You know she just learned to ride a bike with two wheels?  She's amazing.  Took me 5 seconds to teach and i think my jaw hit the ground. 

i am not making rash decisions.  i am not out of control.  i might be in too tight control.  following the patterns of a "quiet" day.  Watching cartoons with her, helping her on the computer and all the other needed things.  Except i just cant play, i cant smile or laugh or be silly. 

i dont know how to feel.  yes, i'm thinking rash.  Massive rash thoughts.  And yeah - there is no one.  My family they are crap.  i lost contact with my friends cos i didnt want to include them in my rollercoaster.  they all live else where really.  i havent a therapist either.  a psychatrist who prescribes meds and thats it.  And yeah i'm reading what you all say.  Not responding to all.. because i cant.. i can barely read what most of you say with out crying.  i refuse to cry. 

i am on meds.  So you folks who want to throw around bi polar can shove it okay?  i get sick to death of hearing that shit.  Sounds good to you.. great.. Its bullshit.  And its what all fuckheads say to make you believe them.  i'm not fucking crazy and i'm not fucking out of my mind.  i'm a FUCKING PERSON




maybemaybenot -> RE: Played - to unconcievable depths (6/24/2006 5:32:26 PM)

 edited after reading the last post

Yup, you are human. Maybe that's why some of us are concerned about you, no matter how you see it. Most people haven't written to exercise their fingers, but out of concern.

                       mbmbn




Level -> RE: Played - to unconcievable depths (6/24/2006 5:33:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

i am on meds.  So you folks who want to throw around bi polar can shove it okay?  i get sick to death of hearing that shit.  Sounds good to you.. great.. Its bullshit.  And its what all fuckheads say to make you believe them.  i'm not fucking crazy and i'm not fucking out of my mind.  i'm a FUCKING PERSON



Yes you are a person. No matter the right or wrong of anything else that has shown up on this thread, you are a human being.




RiotGirl -> RE: Played - to unconcievable depths (6/24/2006 5:35:36 PM)

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If she feels safe and comfortable venting here why tell her to stop? just let US be responsible in the advice we offer while she is hurting and make sure to not flame her but encourage her to cry it out talk it out speak with her therapist encourage her to do her best to let it out here so when she is away from the computer she can be functional...does anyone live nearby her to perhaps check on her or call her on the phone to make sure she is alright? She might be ranting here but fine off line....she might not so is there a way to confirm she is alright?


i'm okay.  i guess

but just uh be ware my voice doesnt work to well and using it isnt my strong point okay?  So if i sound like a retard  dont make fun

and dont call to be a friend.  just call a sure yourself all is well in the household and be done.  i got kid music blasting and a kid dancing with a dog. And the kid music is driving me fucking mad - but i'm keeping that to myself, it makes others happy

[Mod Note:  telephone number removed.  You know better than that]




RiotGirl -> RE: Played - to unconcievable depths (6/24/2006 5:41:30 PM)

yeah i gots to go lay down - i cant handle anymore rigt now




ArdentOne -> RE: Played - to unconcievable depths (6/24/2006 5:43:03 PM)

Who's to say what's going on her her home right now?  She's probably got herself all wrapped up and bound down tight emotionally for her daughter's benefit.  But there again, that's a supposition...  Just like all the other ones out there trying to make it seem like her kid is in any danger.

For those of you that resent her for mussing up your saturday afternoon on the forums with her problems, don't read the bloody thread.  I know plently of people that watch Jerry Springer avidly and criticize it the whole time.  Yet, they dial in every day.  I can tell them to change the channel but god knows they'd only watch Maury.

She's hanging in there.  Quit trying to peel her fingers of the branch.




scratchingpost -> RE: Played - to unconcievable depths (6/24/2006 5:55:36 PM)

smiles haven't called yet but what you describe sounds like a normal house same one I have here....for me to call b4 the demonspawn are resting is next to impossible....I dont know how to be any other way than a friend....its who I am inside sooo....deal with it grins. and if you need to rant call ME anytime day or night (I have a phone just for this i.d.) XXX-XXX-XXXX if I dont answer its because Im busy...but please kelly feel free to use it any time.

as for people using the bipolar thing against you...I dont....there are many levels of bi polar disorder and many cases of fully functional people who live with it some with meds some without...to use it against you would be like blaming someone for having chicken pox it makes no sense...

as for your voice problems I judge no one...except irresponsible assholes who are abusive (resisting digressing and going off on a tirade)....

[Mod Note:  telephone number deleted.  Personal contact info is not allowed in the forums]




cynthiamarie -> RE: Played - to unconcievable depths (6/24/2006 6:00:54 PM)

I don't think everyone in crisis should temporarily give up custody of their kid.  There's a huge difference between parents who destroy their children and others who have bad times to get through.  Anyone who has ever had children will tell you...nobody's a perfect parent 24/7.  I've been the single parent of an autistic kid, and I also have PTSD and I homeschool him; far from being the typical American family.

RG...don't worry about providing "stuff" for your daughter...my sister and I had a choice.  Stay with our stuff, or go with our mother with only the clothing on our backs and we chose our mother.  We had no furniture at first, no toys, all of our clothing came from second hand stores, but we had the most important thing...our mother.  Through all the hard times, I would have made that same choice again and again.

She wasn't perfect, she'd lose it occasionally and then cry later...but you know what?  I loved her.  She fought to keep us, wouldn't give us away to someone else to raise, and kept on going even when she wanted to die.  By watching her struggles, I learned how to hold on tight when times got rough and hopeless.  If she had ever been to a shrink in her entire life, I'd lay bets she'd be diagnosed as bipolar, as it runs in our family tree.

mbmbn:
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I am saying, a bipolar person in a manic rage is unpredictable, and if there is a little one in the picture, the little one suffers.


There's a huge difference between cutting one's hair off as a symbol of their grief, and stabbing someone in front of their kid.  In RG, I see appropriate grief and necessary purging...both will take a long time...but I see no signs of RG being in a "manic rage."

When I was first diagnosed with Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma years ago, I cut butt length hair short to my ears, to help with my grieving.  It actually helped somehow, to express myself in this way.  It would have been grossly inappropriate for anyone to say my kid should be taken from me while I pulled my life together.

Many of us are diagnosed with manic depression because we are living in a bad situation we can't get out of...and/or we drink too much coffee. 

Her meds don't seem to be the magic pills they're cracked up to be... 

For some, shrinks aren't the magical cure all either.  I went to them for over 20 years, for child molestation, paternal physical and emotional abuse, rapes, PTDS, panic attacks, and dissociation.  The whole survivors' package deal.  It's been my own experience that they take the place of friends who are strong enough to hear anything, yet not make my problems into their own problems.  If you can find a shrink who is really a good healer, good...but for me, more healing took place within my own self through my own healing process. 

Peer counselors who really understand what you're going through because they've been there themselves are wonderful.  I'll put a site in RG's mailbox with a list of kink friendly crisis lines.  I don't know if posting the listing in here is allowed or not. 

It's okay to grieve.

It's okay to turn to friends...online or in person...to rant and rage and cry and scream and admit to being in pain.  Even in a forum.  Anyone who doesn't want to witness another's pain can go wander off to an easier thread, right?
 
For many people, before healing can begin, the pain must be acknowledged and wallowed in and everything thought to death from every possible angle.  If she has friends here, she has every right to expect their support.

Over 2 years ago, I fell into a deep depression for two weeks after a surgery, and friends at another forum not only hugged me and helped me through it (as I had done for them many times), but also wrote to an actor, Alan Rickman, on my behalf...he sent me two autographed pix.  Family and shrinks couldn't help, but my friends did...they also made me see new perspectives.  Because of their kicking my butt a little, I ended up here at CollarMe eventually; willing to date instead of protecting men from the pain of getting attached to me.  These online only friends told me I had no right to make unilateral decisions like that. 

I detest it when people make comments about online friendships being "less real". 





becca333 -> RE: Played - to unconcievable depths (6/24/2006 6:02:13 PM)

Here's what you don't want to hear, but it's the truth:  Get your act together or find someone to care for your child who's stable.

If you fall apart every time there's a problem, and start talking suicide each time, you are, as you predict, going to totally F up your child.  She needs security, and she needs structure and discipline as well as love.  Giving her lots of pretty toys and letting her think that she has a right to whatever she wants is just setting her up for the same kind of misery you have - every time things go wrong she'll think the whole world is wrong, instead of accepting it like the rest of us do.

Shit happens.  Men lie.  Love sometimes doesn't work out.  That's how it is.  The whole world isn't picking on you, it happens to everyone.

Good things happen too - you have a lovely daughter, a nice home, an outlet for your kink side - you've got way more that a lot of people will ever have. 

You got played by a louse, and it really REALLY hurts, but that's how it is, too.  If you instantly run to the idea of suicide each time you get hurt, where is your daughter's security?  And don't think you're hiding all this from her.  Even now she's picking up the vibe.  As she gets older she'll see more, and understand more.  And she'll be alone in the world with someone who keeps threatening suicide when she's facing problems.  Where's her security?

He's a louse.  You hurt like hell.  It happens.

But your kid comes first, last and always.  Get it together with some heavy-duty therapy, or get her a safe and secure home before she's totally destroyed.

I'm sorry, but that's how it is.




Wulfchyld -> RE: Played - to unconcievable depths (6/24/2006 6:03:38 PM)

Hey. You all really need to pass this personal stuff through the mail on the other side. You are handing it out people you may not want to have it.




cynthiamarie -> RE: Played - to unconcievable depths (6/24/2006 6:27:03 PM)

Site and info from Wings of Fire...sent.




maybemaybenot -> RE: Played - to unconcievable depths (6/24/2006 6:28:16 PM)

Let's not muddy up what I said, please. The quote you used was NOT in the post where I talked about my friends neice stabbing her hubby.

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There's a huge difference between cutting one's hair off as a symbol of their grief, and stabbing someone in front of their kid.   


I specifically stated that I was not inferring that RG would do this.. it was an example of how bad things can get, and perhaps some insight into  why  I felt so strongly. 

As for the hair cutting incident,  hell i cut my hair at the drop of a hat.. NOT because I know some one else will not like. I was referring to the motivation, not the act. If she said,, ya know.. I have always wanted to crop my hair and Master never allowed or liked it.. so now that things are done, I am chopping it all of.. and boy do I feel good about it.  I would be right there with all of you who are calling it some sort of cleansing.

                              mbmbn




carolsea -> RE: Played - to unconcievable depths (6/24/2006 6:31:22 PM)

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, but I just started reading this - um - strange thread, so I was hoping somebody has done it.

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ORIGINAL: mew

~fast reply~
 
I am wondering why no one has said,  " going through your Master's email is just wrong". 
 
~mew~




carolsea -> RE: Played - to unconcievable depths (6/24/2006 6:33:57 PM)

Nah, she said in her first post that she "figured out" his passwords.

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ORIGINAL: ScooterTrash

I guess this would be something that could be considered, but I am not private about my e-mails in my household and perhaps this is something that was open (passwords and such) between them as well. My personal feeling it that if you have something to hide, then you aren't being open with your "others", so something is broken anyway.




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