DesideriScuri
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So, having more students to pay the costs of the building maintenance, the professor, and all the other non-education staff isn't going to lower the cost of going to school for a student? Must be that new math that's all the rage. My "old school" math tells me otherwise.
Accreditation for medical schools is handled by how many agencies? How much does it cost for accreditation?
What do they call the worst student at Rutgers that graduated from medical school, and what do they call the best student graduating from medical school at Seton Hall (taking the assumption that both have medical schools)? Or, change Rutgers to University of Toledo (which does have a medical school) and Seton Hall to Harvard. What are those people called?
Ok, so the fact that you switched it to medical school shows a bit of a reading comprehension issues, but whatever.
Isn't this about doctors and medical stuff? I surely wonder why I changed it to medical school...
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The fact is that people have been willing to pay more to go to those schools with a lower student/instructor ratio because the quality of education is better. Of course you wouldn't have learned that in your "old math" class because it isn't a math issue. Considering both Seton Hall and Rutgers are two top notch schools and STILL there would be a huge difference in employment opportunities upon completion at either for undergrad, I won't even get into what the difference would be at the graduate studies level, which is what law school (or medical school) is.
So do you honestly think that lowering the quality of education, especially for doctors, because they are both called "doctor" afterward is going to help with a health care crisis, or is it possible that the problem would increase with such lower standards.
To be honest, I have no fucking idea what you're talking about regarding lowering the quality of education. Where did I recommend that?
And, I do believe that we are going to need more physicians in the very near future. But, part of having more physicians would mean that supply is rising. If we don't have more physicians while we have more demand for physician services, what do you think prices are going to do?
And, how can you not see that more students per class means a lower per pupil cost, which is very real math?
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You pay $42 a visit to your doctor? It's really no wonder you don't really grasp the reality of the situation. My private physician costs me $95 a visit. Do I believe he is a better doctor than someone in my area who charges $42 a visit? Yes, actually I do. The Medicaid physicians, by the way, get paid about $25 dollars a visit.
I'm not seeing the point you are making there. Is your doctor visit more expensive because it's a specialist vs. mine being a GP? I actually like my physician a lot. He has never done wrong by me.
My point is that the cost YOU are paying for a doctor's visit is less typical than the cost I pay for a doctor's appointment. The reality that you don't seem to understand that the cost outside your little corner of the world are significantly different (by more than twice the amount) is indicative of your inability to understand the full thrust of the issue.
I see now. You also must realize that we aren't seeing physicians for the same purposes (in specifics; obviously, we are in general), so that may have something to do with the cost disparity, no? What would happen for you if your costs associated with doctor visits, out of pocket and negotiated insurance charge (assuming you have insurance), were to go down?
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I do consider myself lucky to be a basically healthy person. And, there is insurance available to people to help them lower their medical costs.
So you either approve of insurance or you don't. Make up your mind.
My mind is made up. Sorry you can't follow basic logic.
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I do have an issue with mandated insurance purchasing. I do believe it's my right to decide what I purchase and what I don't purchase. And, it's my responsibility to deal with the consequences of those choices.
Except that in case of such catastrophic medical event, you can claim that you will absorb all the costs of that event out of pocket, but the reality is that you won't. You will, of course, seek to reduce your costs in any way possible, making YOU a drain on the system.
I see. So, better to get it out of me now, and have it covered later? Interesting take. What kind of drain on the system would I be if the cost of each medical procedure was lower?
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It's really easy to stomp your feet and say you don't like a program, but when you show over and over again that you really don't understand the implications facing the current system, you aren't really making much of a point.
What implications do I not understand?
Well, there's a couple of problems here. Regardless of your incessant need to claim that tazzy can't seem to understand what you are saying, yet you have to keep repeating yourself for more than just her (indicating your communication style could use some work), you don't appear to grasp the costs on a national level, nor anything else really.
I mean correspondence school tends to be less expensive than attending a physical university. How long before you try to claim that since the "title" you get at the end is the same at either, go for the correspondence school.
Which incidentally, there are nursing programs available through correspondence courses, as well as phlebotomy. Perhaps you are ok with a nurse who got her degree in the mail or someone drawing your blood that was taught out of a book without practical experience, but I'm not. So I guess, you get the benefit of my insisting on someone with a decent education.
Are the "distance learning" programs accredited by a reputable accrediting body? I would be surprised how a distance learning program gained accreditation for a program that is as hands-on as phlebotomy and nursing. Have you checked into each program of your physician(s) and his/her(their) nursing staff?
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