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RE: Ick factor with toys? - 4/29/2013 6:47:20 PM   
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RE: Ick factor with toys? - 4/29/2013 7:58:17 PM   
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I have major ick issues. I don't care if it can be cleaned, sanitized, disinfected, soaked in 100% bleach overnight...whatever you wanna call it...I'd prefer it to not come near me.

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RE: Ick factor with toys? - 4/30/2013 1:47:42 AM   
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I feel the same way about relationship specific toys, but I also play causally, and have my own set of toys I've amassed for that over the years which don't get discarded between relationships because they're not tied to anybody specifically but me.

If something holds strong memories of a specific partner or even though, I feel the same way and get rid of them after that relationship is over.
I think this is a part of why I feel the way I do about toys. Unless it's something that is used for sexual intimacy, I don't consider toys relationship specific. The standard flogger or whatever is acquired with the knowledge that it is going to be used with not only the person that I might be involved with in a dynamic at the time but also with the casual play partners that I have during that period as well. I might even go so far as to say that the connection that I have with the toy is more likely to be with the person who made it, rather than who I've used it on.



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RE: Ick factor with toys? - 4/30/2013 2:12:57 AM   
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I think this is a part of why I feel the way I do about toys. Unless it's something that is used for sexual intimacy, I don't consider toys relationship specific. The standard flogger or whatever is acquired with the knowledge that it is going to be used with not only the person that I might be involved with in a dynamic at the time but also with the casual play partners that I have during that period as well. I might even go so far as to say that the connection that I have with the toy is more likely to be with the person who made it, rather than who I've used it on.
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In most cases I feel the same way... I have many toys that are very connected to the person who made them, ones which have been gifts or purchased from close friends. I don't let them get wrapped into the feelings that go with an individual partner.

That said, one or two items I have are individual specific.. a latex sheet I made in anticipation of blood play with a former partner.. who sort of drifted off (we remained friends)... I kept the sheet set aside as i had a specific scene in mind for it.. recently, we drifted back.. and indeed I got to use it for the purpose intended. Obviously, the blood play thing is the consideration in this case. A breath play hood I purchased to use with my sham-maso ex & never did, got a little use that week too... and it was very energy cleansing to use it with someone other than the arsehat I originally bought it for. Felt pretty fucking good actually ;)

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RE: Ick factor with toys? - 4/30/2013 2:14:22 AM   
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To littlewonder,
I like that word you used ; "squick".  Is that a combo of squeamish and ick?

Squick originally meant "skull fucking," now a days it is a term used to mean "mind fuck." Gods I've been on the net far too long to know this shit.

@OP I like to bring my own toys to the party. That way I know they are only being used on me. Other things that have been used on me were used by a germaphobic EMT, so I know they are sterile when she uses them on me.

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RE: Ick factor with toys? - 4/30/2013 2:19:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hmm, am I the only one who's like, okay, so, dicks and fingers get stuck in all sorts of people and we don't boil and bleach those, leather whips can't be properly sterilized, but if I boil and bleach my expensive silicone and glass toy options I can't use them on multiple people? Pff no.

When it comes to leather stuff I'd be much more inclined to hesitate over sharing. Collars have symbolism. Whips might draw fluid and can't be cleaned properly, though honestly those will probably be fine. And I won't buy any insertable toy that can't be sterilized to hell and back again, so while a vibrator which can't be boiled I might say is a one person only thing, I certainly wouldn't hesitate to use a strap-on for multiple partners assuming it'd been sterilized. I mean, real body parts? Those get cleaned with soap and water and who knows where they've been!

While I have a certain squick factor when it comes to say, anything gel being used on multiple parties or any butt toys, I really couldn't say I have much in the way of a squick factor with anything that can be properly sanitized. You're gonna touch me with those hands? Those hands that you just pulled the bus stop bell with, pushed open the door with, pushed the elevator call button with, touched the stairwell handrail with, opened my door with, answered your phone with? Okay, just boil them and bleach them first, thanks! Pff no.

I'd be more concerned about something leather that might have drawn blood than reusing a silicone, glass, or metal insertable. Theoretically, these could be thrown into an autoclave. If that's not good enough for you, never go to a hospital for procedures again.

I'm fairly sure my viewpoint on what's actually squicky comes from this background. I would be 100% more squicked out by you handing me your cell phone than a sex toy that's been boiled. Phones are disgusting. Keyboards? Gross. If sex toys bother you on a purely germ level I highly suggest really thinking about who touches those things you touch on a regular basis in a vanilla life, like oh, cart handles, bus pull strings, door handles, public phones and keyboards. I guess I can understand on an emotional level why it would bother people, but man, those things out there in an environment not carefully controlled and picked by me are gross and we still go out there and touch them and interact with them and do our daily things.

Cheers!

And on the note of the 'connection with the person who made it', I have one handmade wooden toy and it definitely makes me think of the person who made it! I can definitely feel that. It's like a bit of them is in it.

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RE: Ick factor with toys? - 4/30/2013 2:27:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		No Dreamless your not alone...it doesnt bother me much either.
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RE: Ick factor with toys? - 4/30/2013 4:01:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		LW>> Me and Wench are old and use the term Squick as well.

Yeah I disinfect and put condoms over insertables or anything else that's come into fluid contact. Stuff that's heat safe gets boiling water.


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RE: Ick factor with toys? - 4/30/2013 4:19:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		No real ick factor with me. I came into my first relationship to a dungeon full of toys - and i didn't insist he throw them all out. Infact it didn't even occur to me. The only things i don't like used on someone else was an insertable that we bought together. Otherwise soap and water is going to kill most of what we carry as humans.

For the record, i work in surgery, and have impossible standards of cleanliness there. At home - meh!, not so much. For me, the idea that leather is "contaminated" by being used on my back and butt is a bit out there. I havent seen a flogger used yet that draws blood - though my sweetie has one that i think could (ouch).

I kind of see this being like the insistance on tv of ads that use guilt to sell disinfectant wipes for the house. People have lived for thousands of years without them and they don't improve our lives. Well.... maybe the manufacturers. And there are those of us that buy into it. I work with one - she wipes everything, but puts her silverware on the (unwiped) tabletop and doesn't understand why i laugh at her.

Things that i have sentimental investiture in - like cuffs, i don't want to see on someone else, but that is not from a health point of view.

And i agree with a poster from above - glass and metal toys can be cleaned just fine to use on another. Now, wheither or not you have an attachement to the toy is another thing........

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RE: Ick factor with toys? - 4/30/2013 7:26:06 AM   
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So where is the line of your ick factor with regards to toys?


While I have a tacky factor I do not have much of an ick factor. That's one of the luxuries of never (or rarely) having much of this stuff ever used on myself. It's something I do discuss with new playmates and let them decide. If they choose to provide their own toys, great. Most confine that to intimate things like insertables, gags and such. While they sometimes might not inherently like the idea that the rest of my toys have been used on others they loosen up a bit when they see how much it would turn them to replicate my war chest. It's not terribly different from public play situations. Some of my stuff just isn't commercially available. When I couldn't find floggers that I really liked I made a few. You can't buy ones just like them. It's mine or nothing.



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RE: Ick factor with toys? - 4/30/2013 9:44:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can't add anything on insertables, because honestly, the only one I use I was issued with . On a more serious note, I never thought about reusing other items like whips, paddles, and cuffs mainly because as a casual player at best, I simply couldn't justify getting brand-new items just for a new partner. I figure if the police and hospitals can reuse restraints, why can't I?

I had a sub teach me a trick for cleaning my whip (because frankly she wouldn't allow me to use it on her if I didn't do this). I got a bucket and poured in a 50% bleach mixture, soaked the whip for 20 minutes, rinsed it in clear, dried it off with a towel before hanging to finish drying, and then hit it with saddle soap, mink oil, and dye/polish to replace the color that came off. It wore the hell out of them, but did soften them up a bit, and it seemed to me as if they were "cleaner" than before.I still have one of my old ones from 20 years back, and it's still supple and strong.

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RE: Ick factor with toys? - 4/30/2013 7:23:03 PM   
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RE: Ick factor with toys? - 4/30/2013 7:32:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Insertables are never reused on someone different. Whenever I see folks on the other side parading their dildo collection I feel physically ill about it.

Anything else I'll reuse if it makes sense to reuse it. I've rewound rolls of vet wrap for reuse before but I've never scraped wax off someone and then melted it down for another time.

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RE: Ick factor with toys? - 4/30/2013 7:36:40 PM   
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So how multiple person are your toys. Are some used on multiple people are some very individualistic and personal? Where is your line of what toys are only used on one as to used on more than one?

Obviously this is geared to those that play with two or more or have such intention to do so.

So where is the line of your ick factor with regards to toys?

Consider the same questions, but in regards to the BUILT-IN "toys" that we all have - our penises and vaginas (and other holes and so forth). We wash them off after we use them sexually, just like we do with our toys. And like toys, they're clean and ready to go within a few minutes of washing.

So we could replace all instances of "toys" with "genitals":

So how multiple-person are your genitals? Are some used on multiple people are some very individualistic and personal? Where is your line of what genitals are only used on one as to used on more than one?
Obviously this is geared to those that play with two or more or have such intention to do so.
So where is the line of your ick factor with regards to genitals?

Of course, there's a major difference between genitals and toys when it comes to sharing them with multiple partners - genitals are a lot more likley to carry diseases, because they're warm and wet, the conditions diseases need to survive.

Wash your toys well, and your genitals even better.

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RE: Ick factor with toys? - 4/30/2013 8:26:10 PM   
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RE: Ick factor with toys? - 4/30/2013 8:34:02 PM   
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Consider the same questions, but in regards to the BUILT-IN "toys" that we all have - our penises and vaginas (and other holes and so forth). We wash them off after we use them sexually, just like we do with our toys. And like toys, they're clean and ready to go within a few minutes of washing.....

This is a good point. A couple of others earlier in the thread noted it too. It makes me wonder if sometimes the "ick" factor regarding used toys isn't really unacknowledged negative feeling about our partners' others, past and present.

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RE: Ick factor with toys? - 4/30/2013 8:36:30 PM   
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I just chucked some of my old insertables in the trash. One user per toy is my rule of thumb, especially since you never know what someone has going on in their fun caves.

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RE: Ick factor with toys? - 5/1/2013 4:32:20 AM   
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Consider the same questions, but in regards to the BUILT-IN "toys" that we all have - our penises and vaginas (and other holes and so forth). We wash them off after we use them sexually, just like we do with our toys. And like toys, they're clean and ready to go within a few minutes of washing.....

This is a good point. A couple of others earlier in the thread noted it too. It makes me wonder if sometimes the "ick" factor regarding used toys isn't really unacknowledged negative feeling about our partners' others, past and present.


Not meaning to jump on the relatively new poster here but someone better point out the obvious about "personal bits" (as opposed to manufactured toys). That, m or f, we all come with only one per lifetime, so there is no "ick-factor" choice. Lol, not to the actual owner, anyway....

So, for the record, the insertibles that I never recycle do NOT include those permanently attached to me my whole life.

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RE: Ick factor with toys? - 5/1/2013 4:42:07 AM   
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RE: Ick factor with toys? - 5/1/2013 4:42:07 AM   
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I guess I should answer my own question....

For me it's rather simple... Fluid bonding is king! If we are fluid bonded! Then All toys are potential use with various partners. Hell my cock has been known to make the rounds in a night... I really would hate to have to disinfect the big guy after each use! That could hinder the fun! If I am sharing that then I see no issues with any other toys.

But, if we are not fluid bonded! The Bottom better have there own toys that can't be properly cleaned and disinfected at a minimum. I don't use leather or explicate sexual toys outside my fluid bonded family.


As a monogamous dinosaur still managing to be alive in this age, gotta say there's quite an ick factor for me in this "fluid bonding".

Each to their own, of course, but still....

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