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RE: Eye-Popping Health Care Costs - 5/7/2013 7:15:44 AM   
LafayetteLady


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Status: offline 		The 10mg are on the $4 list and are not capsules. It shouldn't be difficult for the doctor to write the script as though you took it 3x a day to get the right count of pills for 30 mg.

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RE: Eye-Popping Health Care Costs - 5/10/2013 2:55:45 PM   
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The NYT had a article about how Hospital costs for the same procedure are all over the place, and how if you are uninsured, you will pay higher prices for health care.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/08/business/hospital-billing-varies-wildly-us-data-shows.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

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RE: Eye-Popping Health Care Costs - 5/10/2013 2:59:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		STOP!!!! GODDAMMIT!!!!! MY EYES ARE POPPING!!!!

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RE: Eye-Popping Health Care Costs - 5/12/2013 8:35:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		FR- I found this interesting, comparing US costs to other countries.. in the pdf it shows the cost range in the US too..

http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/why-are-patients-racing-out-of-america-for-healthcare.html/?ref=YF

http://www.ifhp.com/documents/2012iFHPPriceReportFINALMarch25.pdf

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RE: Eye-Popping Health Care Costs - 5/12/2013 1:14:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
....The cost: $785.00. The Dr. charged about $680.00 to use the endoscope for about 40 seconds to look into my nose....

Two basic items of health care -- helping some one with food poisoning and looking at one's sinuses during a 8 minute consultation --- and huge sums of money are owed.

What crazy shit have you experienced?

I went to the hospital with a stomach ache. Over $4,000.00 in hospital fees, $1,800.00 in lab fees and $1,200.00 emergency room doctor's fee. They thought I might have had a kidney stone . . . but after several hours they could not rule it out or confirm it. Three and half hours, 7 grand, MRI's, injecting dye in me and doing ultra sounds and all they couldn't tell me why I had an awful stomach ache. Next day I was fine. It happened a couple more times but I refused to go to hospital. Then it all ending in one whopper of crampy/shooting pain (I think I passed the stone) and I have been fine ever since (6 years).

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RE: Eye-Popping Health Care Costs - 5/12/2013 5:28:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes uninsured people get charged more. But they can also call the finance department and often get a discount. Insurance companies have a contract with the medical providers on how much they will pay. Consider it a volume discount. Another reason we all are charged so much is to help defray the costs of treating the people that never pay their bill.

Always ask for an itemized copy of all charges. Take the time to call billing and go over the bill. Ask what items are that you don't know. Especially ask about lab tests. Ask why they performed that test or why so often. Was it really medically necessary. You can save a bit that way by having them remove charges for some of these.

If you happen to be lucky enough to have some cash, often you can save up to 50% by calling and offering to pay cash now or they will get small payments.



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RE: Eye-Popping Health Care Costs - 5/13/2013 2:58:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here's another example. I recently had some routine lab work done. The lab charged $180. Per their agreement with my insurer they can charge $11 for those services so the remaining $169 is a "write off" for them, I guess. Why bill someone $180 when you know you're only going to get $11 and you know that up front?

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RE: Eye-Popping Health Care Costs - 5/16/2013 5:02:13 PM   
soul2share


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Status: offline 		In October of 2010, I went to the ER with appendicitis. I knew what it was, it was 3:30 am, and I was right. THey did the surgery lapriscopically,(SP) I was in the hospital EXACTLY 48 hours. A couple of weeks later, I got the explanation of benefits for the surgery. It came to approximatley $32,000. What I thought was interesting was the notation on the bottom of it. They showed the original cost of $38,000 +/-, then they showed an approximate "hospital discount" of approximately $24,000, brining the total "cost" to approximately $8,000. Huh? Why not just charge the $8000 and be done with it?

Medical costs here in the US are out of control. Medications are just as bad. I had a job working for a prescription benefit manager, and you wouldn't believe the costs of medications. One that immediately comes to mind is Nexium....that medication is so overpriced it's not funny. And there's no generic for it, so if it's the only thing that works, then the patient absorbs that cost. I'm talking hundreds of dollars here. I am definitely that last person that encourages gov't intervention, but someone has to bring these companies under control. I could tell you stories about unrelated medical costs from doctors that would curl your hair. They are inflating their costs for services because the other payments they used to get from medicare and insurance companies are being cut and they are trying to find alternate ways of making up for those cuts.

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RE: Eye-Popping Health Care Costs - 5/17/2013 6:44:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirlthe company denies your claim for cancer treatment, legal under arkansas law, you have no recourse).


I don't know about Blue Cross, but Aetna paid for cancer surgery for my wife in 2010 and 2011, less deductible and co-pay. She and her employer are in Arkansas.

Since November 2008, our co-pay has doubled and the deductible went from $500 to $6,000. But our premiums only doubled. Such a deal!

If healthcare gets any more "affordable" we'll be bankrupt next time one of us has a major illness.

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