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mnottertail -> RE: Benghazi Plot Thickens (5/9/2013 11:21:30 AM)
OK, lets get some accurate information. Why so the teabaggers can mischaracterize it further? Who gave ambassador Rice her "talking points" and set up 5 different newscasts to "tell us what happened". The PR mavens. And who gave the order for the military to stand down. Nobody, our military never stands down. Who has the authority to "overrule" the senior general grade officer in the area? His boss, also a senior, general grade officer. Why did the Lybian President know it was a terrorist attack and our own President seemed to be clueless? He didnt know it. Don't they communicate? Why should they? According to testimony from Admiral Mullins and Panetta, Obama made NO calls asking how things are proceeding after being informed of the attack? He has guys that he pushes buttons on his chief of staff to get to do that do that sort of thing for him, and usually in person, that aint a phone it in. What kind of morons don't have adequate resources available to ward off a possible attack when the British, the Red cross and others moved out because of hostile actions? Teabaggers prolly. DUHHHH, Didn't that date ring a bell in someones mind? DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUhhhhh. You gonna send 100,000 troops to every embassy of ours around the world on every september 11? Won't they just change the attacks to the 8th? Meanwhile, who would be home minding the store? God, not teabaggers, they are too fuckin stupid.

DomKen -> RE: Benghazi Plot Thickens (5/9/2013 12:55:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: papassion OK, lets get some accurate information. Who gave ambassador Rice her "talking points" and set up 5 different newscasts to "tell us what happened". Why does this matter? Try letting this sink in, by spreading disinformation that we didn't know it was AQ we may have made it easier to catch the attckers. quote: And who gave the order for the military to stand down. Who has the authority to "overrule" the senior general grade officer in the area? No one did. How many times doe this have to be said? The only available combat personel able to reach the site quickly were sent and did arrive in time to help defend the Annex when it was attcked (2 of the men who died were amongst the security contractors that made the flight). 4 guys with nothing but handguns tried to leave on the same flight that would bring our people out. They were told not to go because they could not do any good and could not arrive until dawn on th 12th. quote: Why did the Lybian President know it was a terrorist attack and our own President seemed to be clueless? Make up your mind. Did the President coldly let these men die for political reasons or was he clueless and did not know anything about the attack. You can't both accuse the President of instigating a cover up by sending Rice out and also that he did not know it was a terrorist attack. quote: Don't they communicate? According to testimony from Admiral Mullins and Panetta, Obama made NO calls asking how things are proceeding after being informed of the attack? Do you really think an attack on a single consulate involving a handful of people sends the President to the Situation Room for continual updates? Maybe you should give some thought to the scope of the President' job. quote: What kind of morons don't have adequate resources available to ward off a possible attack when the British, the Red cross and others moved out because of hostile actions? DUHHHH, Didn't that date ring a bell in someones mind? We had combat personel in the area and they arrived about 3 hours and 20 minutes after the attack began. That's pretty good time to muster the team, load gear and make an unplanned 650 mile flight . Why won't the right wingers actually look into the event and actually discuss the actual facts. (Yes, I was waiting for one of them to acknowledge that 2 of the men who died were amongst the secuirty guys who flew from Tripoli. But none of them even knew that basic fact.)

BamaD -> RE: Benghazi Plot Thickens (5/9/2013 8:26:34 PM)
quote: Why won't the right wingers actually look into the event and actually discuss the actual facts. (Yes, I was waiting for one of them to acknowledge that 2 of the men who died were amongst the secuirty guys who flew from Tripoli. But none of them even knew that basic fact.) They were already there and volunteered, at least that is what the administration told us.

Owner59 -> RE: Benghazi Plot Thickens (5/9/2013 8:31:56 PM)
"Jonathan Alter On Benghazi Hearing: ‘How Can You Cover Up Nothing?’" Expectations for this hearing are sky-high, due to what is said will be “explosive new testimony” by Gregory Hicks – at least if you’re a delusional Republican whack-job. Bashir began by asking Professor Peterson “Given how much we already know, how are the hearings supposed to live up to that kind of hype?” Peterson hosed off TEApublican expectations about Hicks’ testimony, saying, “it doesn’t seem to be too condemning, nor proof what their essential case is, which is the Obama administration is somehow covering up or obscuring some piece of information that will be explosive, and unveil some miscarriage of justice in the Benghazi attacks.” " Jonathan Alter told Martin Bashir that he expects the testimony to reinforce what we already know, saying, “It almost becomes like a dancing on the head of a pin, or something we learned about in philosophy class. How can you cover up nothing?” Alter continued, saying, “What everybody is forgetting is that Leon Panetta testified to the events that Gregory Hicks is going to testify now to, in February. He explained that, tragic as it was, and nobody is minimizing how tragic these events were, the U.S. military felt like it didn’t have time to get forces from Spain and France, Spain and Italy, into Benghazi in time.” “This notion that has taken root on the right that there was somehow an order to “stand down” as if some nefarious anti-American person in the US Government wanted these people to die. That’s the subtext of what they’re saying, that some horrible person wanted to not help Americans…this is really kind of disgusting,” Alter said http://aattp.org/martin-bashir-on-benghazi-hearing-how-can-you-cover-up-nothing/

cloudboy -> RE: Benghazi Plot Thickens (5/9/2013 9:02:11 PM)
The cover-up as reported by Fox News.

Owner59 -> RE: Benghazi Plot Thickens (5/9/2013 10:00:53 PM)
Maybe we`ll need someone like Larry Flint to post a million dollar reward for exactly what was covered up. We still don`t know what they are alluding to. If anyone can explain what wrong doing or "cover up" the cons are talking about,please share it with us.

DomKen -> RE: Benghazi Plot Thickens (5/10/2013 2:43:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: Why won't the right wingers actually look into the event and actually discuss the actual facts. (Yes, I was waiting for one of them to acknowledge that 2 of the men who died were amongst the secuirty guys who flew from Tripoli. But none of them even knew that basic fact.) They were already there and volunteered, at least that is what the administration told us. No. The administration told us that they were among the men who flew to tripoli when the attack began. They died and the politicians and media personalities the right believes have conveniently ignored that fact so as to pretend outrage over a tragedy that they want to use for political purposes.

Fightdirecto -> RE: Benghazi Plot Thickens (5/10/2013 11:45:00 AM)
The amount of supposed outrage is completely hypocritical on the part of the Republican lawmakers and the Right-Wing Media. One way to illustrate this is using the Beirut Barracks Bombing of 1983, which occurred during, and was the fault of, the Reagan administration. The attached image, which I found on Facebook, refers to it. Technically incorrect - it was 220 marines, 18 sailors and 3 solidiers for a total of 241 dead. Yet other than that small error, what the image claims is true - it was President Reagan’s fault that incident occurred. In fact, the official investigation and subsequent Department of Defense report found chain-of-command errors and placed fault on the Reagan administration, as well. Where was the outcry from Republicans when Reagan ignored then-Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger’s pleas to put the Marines in a more defensible position, or not station them at all? It should also be noted that United States retaliation for this incident was virtually nonexistent, and we actually ended up removing our forces as a result of this bombing and the second one that occurred, attacking the French, just a couple of minutes later. Where was the call for impeachment by the Right when their golden boy, "Saint Ronnie" Reagan, was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American soldiers?

Fightdirecto -> RE: Benghazi Plot Thickens (5/10/2013 11:46:06 AM)
the graphic: [image]local://upfiles/42188/D7DC94B3C17246B6BE18AF6E99FB927B.jpg[/image]

papassion -> RE: Benghazi Plot Thickens (5/10/2013 12:22:15 PM)
There was an election coming up. Obama was running around like John Wayne telling us how he killed Osama and the terrorist are scared shitless of him! That they are afraid to try anything and everything is cool with me at the helm! Then the terrorist attack our embassy and kill the ambassador and others. OH NO! says Obama. This will blow a big hole in my story about how I have the terrorists on the run. And then they rubbed my nose in it by doing it on Sept 11! I KNOW! "we'll make up a tale that it wasn't my failure of diplomatic actions, but it was that guy's video that caused it! Quick, get Ambassador Sue Rice on all the networks and spread the "story." Hillary and I will go and make movies about how sorry we are about the video! The Libs are dumb bastards and will believe anything I say! Lets get this going!

DomKen -> RE: Benghazi Plot Thickens (5/10/2013 1:16:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: papassion There was an election coming up. Obama was running around like John Wayne telling us how he killed Osama and the terrorist are scared shitless of him! That they are afraid to try anything and everything is cool with me at the helm! Could you provide a quote of the President saying anything remotely like that? BTW how about acknowledging that every last factual claim you made in your last post on this thread were wrong.

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