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New and apparently destined to staythat way - 6/24/2006 4:09:23 PM   
dichut


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You'd think that that with all the squillions of people in the world to find just one domme willing to train a genuine [married] male sub would be a cinch - apparently not.   Even to be able to find genuine dommes or subs to chat with is a bridge too far    I'm 54, and live in a remote place at the moment but eventually will live in the brisbane, q/land area - if you want a genuine person message me
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RE: New and apparently destined to staythat way - 6/24/2006 4:13:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dichut

You'd think that that with all the squillions of people in the world to find just one domme willing to train a genuine [married] male sub would be a cinch - apparently not.   Even to be able to find genuine dommes or subs to chat with is a bridge too far    I'm 54, and live in a remote place at the moment but eventually will live in the brisbane, q/land area - if you want a genuine person message me


What makes you think it would be a cinch? What woman wants to play with a married man? What is in it for her? With the hundreds of single, emotionally available men available, why are you deserving to be at the top of the list? What qualities make you extraordinary?

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RE: New and apparently destined to staythat way - 6/24/2006 4:17:01 PM   
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You should have done a search for people in your area or at least the area you are going and mailed them.

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RE: New and apparently destined to staythat way - 6/24/2006 4:36:11 PM   
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Hmmmm... just a thought, but I personally don't go in for cheating... so I don't deal with married subs unless I am dealing with the couple (something I have experienced and greatly enjoyed).  I have noted many who feel as I do on the topic, so unless your spouse is in the lifestyle too...

Just my personal feelings.

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RE: New and apparently destined to staythat way - 6/24/2006 4:39:18 PM   
jamesthehumanrug


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dear d
you have to be of service
to get in the door
if you sent an ap. to a top misstress ;what do you do;
are you experienced at service ;diciplined ;have you served before ;and the like; what can you do to be known or helpful ;do you do computer work; are you an accountant ;can you do taxs;talk real-estate;drive;are you charming at dinner ,or do you talk sex ,over food;even in vanilla land ;you have to have some basis to enter an exchange,and, if you have sex and ,the relationship doesnt remain static ;it will grow and progress ,onto intimate activities ,to a limit,or whatever capacity levels you both are capable of serving,to each other .
you can't, just say :you man; me woman ;or you top; me bottom; unless you're on an island,as far ,as i'm concerned ;everyone has the potential ,to be top;but, i'd ,rather have an experienced, in the lifestyle person, sometimes, or usually....
this collar me forum  is'nt a bad way to introduce yourself ,as available;your enduring relationship now may answer you .

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RE: New and apparently destined to staythat way - 6/24/2006 6:02:42 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dichut

You'd think that that with all the squillions of people in the world to find just one domme willing to train a genuine [married] male sub would be a cinch - apparently not.   Even to be able to find genuine dommes or subs to chat with is a bridge too far    I'm 54, and live in a remote place at the moment but eventually will live in the brisbane, q/land area - if you want a genuine person message me


Ermm.... married men are on my list of hard limits.
Nice that you threw it in there as just a bracketted side note.
*rolls eyes*

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RE: New and apparently destined to staythat way - 6/24/2006 6:06:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dichut

You'd think that that with all the squillions of people in the world to find just one domme willing to train a genuine [married] male sub would be a cinch - apparently not.   Even to be able to find genuine dommes or subs to chat with is a bridge too far    I'm 54, and live in a remote place at the moment but eventually will live in the brisbane, q/land area - if you want a genuine person message me



Just a thought or two from a sub brother...I think the earlier posts regarding your marital status are an indication of how (generally) you might be viewed by many prospective Dommes.  I'm single and I'm still out there pounding the pavement trying to find my One so I can only imagine with you being married that the situation would be much more difficult, genuine or not.  

I also noticed this is your first post (congratulations) and that you just joined CM on 6-3.  BELIEVE ME, it ain't easy brother, not for any of us.  I've been at this a little longer than you and some have been at this thing for YEARS and are still seeking.  You might find One for you, and I wish you the best in that, but the only way it will be a "cinch" as you mentioned, will be if you utilize the services of a Pro Domme.  That might be something for you to consider.  A lot less mess for someone in your circumstance if you can find a Pro who plays with married men. 

Anyway, just trying to give you the 411 on what we're ALL experiencing.  A lot of us come into this thing thinking the same way only to quickly realize how foolish we were.  Takes a lot more work than just saying "Hello, here I am". 

Best of Luck to you!       

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RE: New and apparently destined to staythat way - 6/24/2006 7:50:10 PM   
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I agree with Joyinslavery...been lookin for 6 mos. now and can't even hardly get a "thanks but no thanks" to an email unless it's from a pro. I did see a pro once and all that did was get me HOOKED!!!! Lmao!

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RE: New and apparently destined to staythat way - 6/24/2006 7:53:04 PM   
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Now THAT's a funny post!
*chuckling*

Well, take heart, folks.  I've met a few nice men here at CM, and I know I'm bound to meet just the right sub.

Ya gotta hang in there.  6 lil ole months ain't nuthin!  It takes patience and persistence.

Keep trying.

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RE: New and apparently destined to staythat way - 6/24/2006 8:28:45 PM   
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I have noticed that most married men who are seeking a Dominant Female, are actually seeking a little kinky fun on the side, and most keep it a secret from their wives because 'she wouldn't/doesn't understand these desires'.   I want a relationship with a male who can have a relationship, not with a male who wants to discreetly be tied up, so his vanilla spouse won't discover his dirty little secret.   I would not consider taking on a married submissive so he can have his cake, and be beaten with it too.

If you are honest with your wife about your desire to be trained by a Female Dominant, you will likely have more success in finding what you seek (with patience).  Otherwise, perhaps a Pro Domme can provide you the "relationship" you seek.


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RE: New and apparently destined to staythat way - 6/24/2006 8:31:10 PM   
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Amen!

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ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei

I have noticed that most married men who are seeking a Dominant Female, are actually seeking a little kinky fun on the side, and most keep it a secret from their wives because 'she wouldn't/doesn't understand these desires'.   I want a relationship with a male who can have a relationship, not with a male who wants to discreetly be tied up, so his vanilla spouse won't discover his dirty little secret.  


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RE: New and apparently destined to staythat way - 6/24/2006 8:35:30 PM   
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Dear dichut, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
Being a genuine dominant, I do find that married men are very difficult to deal with, especially when the wife has no clue as to what is taking place.  If the wife sat on the side lines while a dominant female was to put you though the paces, I think it would sit much better with both women.  I also will add, that male dominants that work with female submissives that are married, often have the same stand-off attitude, unless the husband is there participating also, even if it is watching.  It really puts everybody at ease as everybody is involved in communications, negotiations and no secrets.
 
I would also place before you for consideration, that women really want something for their investment.  Emotionally bonding of a dominant with a submissive, by its nature of D/s and or M/s; BDSM and or S&M, by going home to the Mrs. Dichut, does not feed the dominant but you are fed.  So, as you may see--being a "service Top" and or Dominant in a one sided relationship (yours) is not a worthy investment especially when there are single men who don't have a Mrs.
 
I highly recommend seeking a local BDSM support and education group and get educated before you jump into D/s, M/s and or BDSM as well as S&M.  The better you are educated and have knowledge, you invest in your own safety.  Because there is a terrible ratio of male submissives to female dominants, you get plenty of Shelias that haven't a clue but, look great in fetish gear. 
 
Some things to consider are, what type of training are you interested in.  What experiences do you have from past experiences that might be attractive.  Things like that to start you in the right direction per se.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: New and apparently destined to staythat way - 6/24/2006 8:35:53 PM   
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it is not just sub males it is dom/masters as well,
take care and be safe
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RE: New and apparently destined to staythat way - 6/24/2006 8:44:56 PM   
LadyHugs


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Dear joyinslavery,

Thank you for posting.  As a male submissive/slave, it carries a lot of weight because of your role and your personal quest.

The best 'network' is the slave's/submissive's networking between each other.  Men who are in the experiences of submission can speak from experiences and in the 'male lingo' per se.

So many times people hear what they want to hear, rather than hearing what they need to hear.  One thing all need to hear is, that as large as the community appears to be, it is rather small and the pool is only so big, so it indeed requires patience.  So, while one waits, it is a good opportunity to study, learn, test the waters per se and get the knowledge you can obtain, as to make a better informed choice down the road.

Again -- I do thank you and all the male slaves/submissives speaking up more when it comes to another male submissive's posts.

Respectfully submitted,
Lady Hugs

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RE: New and apparently destined to staythat way - 6/24/2006 10:00:18 PM   
joyinslavery


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHugs

Dear joyinslavery,

Thank you for posting.  As a male submissive/slave, it carries a lot of weight because of your role and your personal quest.

The best 'network' is the slave's/submissive's networking between each other.  Men who are in the experiences of submission can speak from experiences and in the 'male lingo' per se.

So many times people hear what they want to hear, rather than hearing what they need to hear.  One thing all need to hear is, that as large as the community appears to be, it is rather small and the pool is only so big, so it indeed requires patience.  So, while one waits, it is a good opportunity to study, learn, test the waters per se and get the knowledge you can obtain, as to make a better informed choice down the road.

Again -- I do thank you and all the male slaves/submissives speaking up more when it comes to another male submissive's posts.

Respectfully submitted,
Lady Hugs



Thanks LadyHugs for Your kind words and the prospective You bring!  I have noticed Your posts are always respectful to all and I enjoy them immensely.  You're a credit to CM and the boards here.  Thank You for Your insight!   

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RE: New and apparently destined to staythat way - 6/24/2006 10:03:45 PM   
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<< Ya gotta hang in there.  6 lil ole months ain't nuthin! >>

It is when you're 52!!!!!!!!!  Seriously....it's killin me that it took sooooo long to figure out what I THINK I need and want? Always knew "something" was missing in my past relationships? Normal will never happen again....It would just be a waste of both or our time.....

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RE: New and apparently destined to staythat way - 6/24/2006 10:21:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dichut

You'd think that that with all the squillions of people in the world to find just one domme willing to train a genuine [married] male sub would be a cinch - apparently not.   Even to be able to find genuine dommes or subs to chat with is a bridge too far    I'm 54, and live in a remote place at the moment but eventually will live in the brisbane, q/land area - if you want a genuine person message me


G'day dichut,

Ok so House Iron Bear is a Gorean Home and we deal with slaves and not subs other than on a friendly basis. Keeping this in mind and that we live half way between Brissy and the GC in Beenleigh amid the growing sugar cane.. Please feel welcome to talk with either myself or Neets, my Wife and Free Companion. (Lady_Neets). You don't have to totally alone... As long as your wife knows and is ok with things we may be able to hook you up when you move to Brissy....

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RE: New and apparently destined to staythat way - 6/24/2006 10:44:23 PM   
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We live just a littel further than IronBear and Lady_Neets (we send our respects to you both) well only a little further as the crow flys but also have contacts in Brisbane and sent you a message telling you about it.

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RE: New and apparently destined to staythat way - 6/24/2006 11:53:23 PM   
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Lady Neets here.

IB is right if you need any More info just leave IB or Myself a message and We'll get back to you.

LadyNeets



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RE: New and apparently destined to staythat way - 6/25/2006 12:44:05 AM   
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Gees us Queenslanders are such a friendly crowd aren't we.....  

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