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Fightdirecto -> 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News (5/10/2013 12:15:20 PM)

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The Republican inquisition over the attacks against Americans in Benghazi has never really gone away, but it appears as though in the wake of the Boston Marathon bombing and the House Oversight Committee's Benghazi hearings this week there are renewed psycho-histrionics over Benghazi.

Lindsey Graham and Fox News Channel in particular are each crapping their cages over new allegations from an alleged whistleblower, while they continue to deal in previously debunked falsehoods about the sequence of events during and following the attacks. Fox News is predictably helming the biggest raft of hooey on the situation - turning its attention to Hillary Clinton in an abundantly obvious early move to stymie her presidential run before it even begins.

So I thought I'd revisit some territory I covered back in October as a bit of a refresher - especially since it appears as if no one, including and especially the traditional press, intends to ask any of these obnoxious, opportunistic liars about why they're so obsessed by this one attack yet they entirely ignored the dozen-plus consulate/embassy attacks that occurred when George W. Bush and Dick Cheney were allegedly "keeping us safe."

The Benghazi attacks (the consulate and the CIA compound) are absolutely not unprecedented even though they're being treated that way by Republicans who are deliberately ignoring anything that happened prior to Inauguration Day, January 20, 2009.

January 22, 2002. CALCUTTA, INDIA. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. KARACHI, PAKISTAN. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. DENPASAR, INDONESIA. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

FEBRUARY 28, 2003. ISLAMABAD, PAKISTAN. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

MAY 12, 2003. RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

JULY 30, 2004. TASHKENT, UZBEKISTAN. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

DECEMBER 6, 2004. JEDDAH, SAUDI ARABIA. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

MARCH 2, 2006. KARACHI, PAKISTAN again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I WONDER IF LINDSEY GRAHAM OR FOX NEWS WOULD EVEN RECOGNIZE THE NAME "DAVID FOY." THIS IS THE THIRD KARACHI TERRORIST ATTACK IN FOUR YEARS ON WHAT'S CONSIDERED AMERICAN SOIL.)

SEPTEMBER 12, 2006. DAMASCUS, SYRIA. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

JANUARY 12, 2007.[B] ATHENS, GREECE. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

MARCH 18, 2008. SANA'A, YEMEN. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

JULY 9, 2008. ISTANBUL, TURKEY. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

SEPTEMBER 17, 2008. SANA'A, YEMEN. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months....

NEARLY EVERY ACCUSATION BEING ISSUED ABOUT BENGHAZI COULD'VE BEEN RAISED ABOUT THE BUSH-ERA ATTACKS, AND YET THESE SELF-PROCLAIMED TRUTH-SEEKERS REFUSED TO, IN THEIR WORDS, UNDERMINE THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF WHILE TROOPS WERE IN HARM'S WAY (a line they repeated over and over again during those years).

SO WE'RE ONLY LEFT TO CONCLUDE THE OBVIOUS. THE INVESTIGATIONS AND ACCUSATIONS AND CONSPIRACY THEORIES ARE ENTIRELY MOTIVATED BY POLITICS AND A STRATEGY TO ESCALATE THIS TO AN IMPEACHMENT TRIAL. IN DOING SO, THE REPUBLICANS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY NOT ONLY TO CRUSH THE PRESIDENT'S SECOND TERM, BUT ALSO TO SABOTAGE THE POTENTIAL FOR A HILLARY CLINTON PRESIDENCY.

Even if they never arrive at that goal, they have in their possession a cudgel formed of horseshit - a means of flogging the current administration with the singularly effective Republican marketing/noise machine, including the conservative entertainment complex. Very seldom does this machine fail to revise history and distort the truth. Ultimately, they don't even need a full-blown impeachment proceeding when they have a population of way too many truthers and automatons who take all of these lies at face value - not to mention dubiously sourced chunks of "truth" proffered by radio and cable news conspiracy theorists who, if nothing else, are masters at telling angry conservatives precisely what they want to hear: that the probably-Muslim president is weak on terrorism. And so THEY'LL KEEP REPEATING "BENGHAZI-GATE, BENGHAZI-GATE, BENGHAZI-GATE!" WITHOUT ANY REGARD FOR HISTORY OR REALITY. LIKE ALWAYS.


13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News

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FunCouple5280 -> RE: 13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News (5/10/2013 12:24:40 PM)

lol So, I suppose two wrongs make a right in your mind? Hack




mnottertail -> RE: 13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News (5/10/2013 12:32:34 PM)

There would be 13 to 1 if we were to describe it punctiliously as we were taught in school.

just sayin.   




FunCouple5280 -> RE: 13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News (5/10/2013 12:55:16 PM)

lol

I just love the eye for and eye mentality of morality. At some point someone has to take the high ground. While the R's aren't this is political, if the D's took a stand too, it would then be accepted that going forward in the future you can' do this anymore.... Time to stop being shills.




mnottertail -> RE: 13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News (5/10/2013 12:58:48 PM)

OK, but still a waste of time, the Benghazi accusations appear to be non-extant, as well as howling at the moon over nothingness.....falling apart faster than asswipe used on both sides, and more shilling by the folks who waste money on this shit than on real business. 




subrob1967 -> RE: 13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News (5/10/2013 1:07:33 PM)

13 Ambassadors died under President Bush?

Why hasn't anyone reported this?




FunCouple5280 -> RE: 13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News (5/10/2013 1:12:10 PM)

true,

but if you have "whistleblowers" I guess you hear them out.
I will take issue with most of FD's things though, brief singled out attacks are not the same as hours long attacks, with people standing by watching. Can't really say 13-1 in an apples to apples way. For the hours of crap going, and the place was 'abandoned,' I am not saying you send in the marines to squash it, but you do send in the extraction crew. I have questions about that.

Bush can be looked at negatively for many things, dragging this up justifies nothing, explains nothing, and only makes me weep more for this country




DomKen -> RE: 13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News (5/10/2013 1:13:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FunCouple5280

lol So, I suppose two wrongs make a right in your mind? Hack

Maybe you misunderstood. The point is that the republicans aren't doing this for a good reason but strictly to score political points in an attempt to undermine HRC before 2016.

No one is saying that the 2 wrongs, not investigating all the attacks under W and politicizing the Benghaz attack, make anything right.




mnottertail -> RE: 13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News (5/10/2013 1:31:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FunCouple5280

true,

but if you have "whistleblowers" I guess you hear them out.


'whistleblowers' is a spin designed to incite by the teabaggers and the nutsucker press. 

Goddammit, Obama and that entire administration is 'whistleblowers' if it comes to that, because I don't think there is anyone who wished this could have been done, or that could have been done differently or not at all.

But it is much ado about nothing there is to do about, or was to do about at the time.




DesideriScuri -> RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News (5/10/2013 1:47:13 PM)

Holy fucking hell, Batman!

Which of those 13 were blamed on something other than terrorism? How many were blamed on something akin to a youtube video?





mnottertail -> RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News (5/10/2013 1:51:09 PM)

The ones that were because of Iraq were blamed on less than a youtube video.

What is the horseshit economy blamed on by the teabaggers?
What is the low availability of jobs blamed on by the teabaggers?
What is the miserable wages blamed on by the teabaggers?


Holy shit batman, except the teabaggers never come around to the right story after gathering the necessary facts..................Holy dogfuck, teabaggers!!




DomKen -> RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News (5/10/2013 2:29:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

Holy fucking hell, Batman!

Which of those 13 were blamed on something other than terrorism? How many were blamed on something akin to a youtube video?

And how many of the attackers of those 13 groups got away because we did not deploy a basic tool of the spy game, disinformation?




mnottertail -> RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News (5/10/2013 2:48:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

Holy fucking hell, Batman!

Which of those 13 were blamed on something other than terrorism? How many were blamed on something akin to a youtube video?

And how many of the attackers of those 13 groups got away because we did not deploy a basic tool of the spy game, disinformation?


The ultimate answer is none of 'em Ken, because Obama has been taking them motherfuckers out with drones, which if that is a cover up is a real piss poor one.  Cuz everybody knows he has been taking out I dont even know how many (last count I looked at was like 45 of the top and medium leadership of al-queda)

But how many have they killed when and while they got away all those years until Obama cakked em? 




DesideriScuri -> RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News (5/10/2013 7:26:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
The ones that were because of Iraq were blamed on less than a youtube video.


Which ones were those, Ron? Which of those were not blamed on terrorists?




DesideriScuri -> RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News (5/10/2013 7:27:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Holy fucking hell, Batman!
Which of those 13 were blamed on something other than terrorism? How many were blamed on something akin to a youtube video?

And how many of the attackers of those 13 groups got away because we did not deploy a basic tool of the spy game, disinformation?


Not going to answer the question?




Owner59 -> RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News (5/10/2013 7:37:29 PM)

We also had a Secretary Of State.......under shrub...... premeditatedly lying to the American public in the lead up to the debacle.....that killed 4409 Americans....


Didn`t see any cons saying anything.....


No wonder they`re on the shit-end of any poll taken.




DesideriScuri -> RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News (5/10/2013 7:39:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59
We also had a Secretary Of State.......under shrub...... premeditatedly lying to the American public in the lead up to the debacle.....that killed 4409 Americans....
Didn`t see any cons saying anything.....
No wonder they`re on the shit-end of any poll taken.


Aaaaand, still no one addressing the question...




Owner59 -> RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News (5/10/2013 7:42:20 PM)

Why should we entertain your fantasies and fake outrage?



If your "questions" don`t compel a response.....that`s on you....








DesideriScuri -> RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News (5/10/2013 11:57:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59
Why should we entertain your fantasies and fake outrage?
If your "questions" don`t compel a response.....that`s on you....


When you can't answer a simple question that is quite pertinent to the OP, it's not on me. I do admit, though, that I don't think no one can't answer the question. It's just that the one who was asked doesn't want to because it doesn't fit the bias.






popeye1250 -> RE: 13 "Benghazis" That Occurred on Bush's Watch Without a Peep from Fox News (5/11/2013 3:19:25 AM)

"Bush did it" so that means it's ..."alright?"
It's not "alright" if anyone does it!




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