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RE: The latest Star Trek movies... - 5/16/2013 5:30:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Great link, good review and a nice read "15 Blunders That Ruined J.J Abrams’ Star Trek And Destroyed The Franchise".

Thank you.

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RE: The latest Star Trek movies... - 5/16/2013 6:55:33 AM   
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RE: The latest Star Trek movies... - 5/16/2013 11:17:57 AM   
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I'm not too proud of some of my own posts in regard, 'spoiler'.

Some folks haven't yet seen the movie, and mean to.

But, I suppose it is difficult to get the point across by just insisting that it sucked. Let's try that.

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Is sucked. It Sucked. It SUCKED ! IT SUCKED !! IT SUUUU-UUU-UU-UCKED !!!!


Nope. Just not satisfying.

And I might have strained my tonsils.

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RE: The latest Star Trek movies... - 5/16/2013 11:22:43 AM   
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Found this while seeking something else. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-WBKah3uwg


I LOLed. Right up until the last line.

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RE: The latest Star Trek movies... - 5/17/2013 12:58:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		The new Star Trek films are kind of like "New Coke"... something decent but reviled for trying to play on a brand recognition when they are totally deviating from the milieu. I totally get the bifurcation of time and the fact that the new scripts are going down a different trouser leg. But, if the writers were actually doing something totally different, they wouldn't need to trade on decades long name recognition to be taken as good.

I'll probably wait for the latest one to hit the $5 bin at Walmart. The first of the "New Trek" wasn't good enough to put up with sticky floors and yakking idiots to see it on the big screen.

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RE: The latest Star Trek movies... - 5/17/2013 1:19:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Some thing to consider.

In the Gene Roddenberry Star Trek universe:
Kirk was the youngest captain in Starfleet history ... after a mere 14 years of training.

In JJ Abrams version:

The rebooted Jim Kirk, meanwhile, is a drunken asshole who punched his way onto a Starfleet recruiting shuttle -- at the time of his whirlwind promotion, he'd only been in the academy for three years. Giving him the job is like sending Jason Statham to negotiate peace talks in the Green Zone. Putting that cowboy at the helm of Earth's humanitarian flagship is probably going to trigger more space wars than have ever been documented in the history of science fiction, even if the movie portrays the job as being mostly running down hallways and dangling off cliffs.

Now in any military organization, JJ Abrams version of Kirk would have been busted, discharged and possibly imprisoned for everything he did.





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RE: The latest Star Trek movies... - 5/17/2013 2:08:05 PM   
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Think about it. Why did Kirk join? How did he get on the ship?



It's a love story against death, time, space and reality.

Bones and Spock are J. T. Kirks best friends. But he is married to The Enterprise.

He couldn't _not_ be her Captain. He feels her every sensation. That;s called "sympathetic pain." You hurt The Enterprise, you hurt James Tiberius Kirk.

I hate to do this but: it's exactly like a Master/slave relationship.

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RE: The latest Star Trek movies... - 5/17/2013 3:10:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Some thing to consider.

In the Gene Roddenberry Star Trek universe:
Kirk was the youngest captain in Starfleet history ... after a mere 14 years of training.

In JJ Abrams version:

The rebooted Jim Kirk, meanwhile, is a drunken asshole who punched his way onto a Starfleet recruiting shuttle -- at the time of his whirlwind promotion, he'd only been in the academy for three years. Giving him the job is like sending Jason Statham to negotiate peace talks in the Green Zone. Putting that cowboy at the helm of Earth's humanitarian flagship is probably going to trigger more space wars than have ever been documented in the history of science fiction, even if the movie portrays the job as being mostly running down hallways and dangling off cliffs.

Now in any military organization, JJ Abrams version of Kirk would have been busted, discharged and possibly imprisoned for everything he did.







You really have to stop comparing the two. They aren't meant to be similar in any way, other than name and character. Have you seen the rebooted Total Recall? That is more like what this is supposed to be. Now that movie is a whole nother conversation, but it shows that a movie can have the same name, same concept, but completely different storylines. Keep thinking that Abrams is trying to fit his Star Trek into Roddenberry's, and you will give yourself an aneurism

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RE: The latest Star Trek movies... - 5/17/2013 3:37:34 PM   
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RE: The latest Star Trek movies... - 5/17/2013 4:11:33 PM   
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Certain things should not be "rebooted." Consider "the Day the earth stood still" "True Grit" and countless others


I don't know what planet you live on, but...

http://www.blackenterprise.com/lifestyle/good-times-movie-in-the-works/

This is frikkin America, where anything is target for reboot, or remake or whatever

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RE: The latest Star Trek movies... - 5/17/2013 4:21:05 PM   
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RE: The latest Star Trek movies... - 5/17/2013 5:25:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Aaaannnd, just so ya don't think Star Trek got picked on, here's a list of all the tv shows that got made into baaad movies, just from the 60s and 70s... * ahem*

21 Jump Street, The A-Team, The Addams Family (and sequels), Alvin and the Chipmunks (and sequels), The Avengers, The Beverly Hillbillies, Bewitched, The Brady Bunch Movie, Charlie's Angels (and sequel), Dark Shadows, Dudley Do-Right, The Dukes of Hazzard, and I could go on and on and on

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RE: The latest Star Trek movies... - 5/17/2013 6:31:12 PM   
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RE: The latest Star Trek movies... - 5/17/2013 6:42:14 PM   
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RE: The latest Star Trek movies... - 5/17/2013 6:47:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Darkfeather

Aaaannnd, just so ya don't think Star Trek got picked on, here's a list of all the tv shows that got made into baaad movies, just from the 60s and 70s... * ahem*

21 Jump Street, The A-Team, The Addams Family (and sequels), Alvin and the Chipmunks (and sequels), The Avengers, The Beverly Hillbillies, Bewitched, The Brady Bunch Movie, Charlie's Angels (and sequel), Dark Shadows, Dudley Do-Right, The Dukes of Hazzard, and I could go on and on and on



The entertainment rumor mill has had repeated talk of Johnny Depp redoing Rocky Horror.

Considering what he did to Barnabas Collins from Dark Shadows, I hate to think what he would do to Frankenfurter.

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RE: The latest Star Trek movies... - 5/17/2013 6:58:14 PM   
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I gotta disagree on 21 Jump Street, I lol'ed several times while watching.


Now, I am not saying it was a bad movie, just a bad version of 21 Jump Street. Was that show a comedy? No way. Would the movie have been better if they called it say, two bumbling cops who pretend to be high schoolers? You betcha. But they chose to mash the two together, and hence the badness. Same thing with a lot of those tv to movies on the list. If ya strip away the title, rename em, they would be decent

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RE: The latest Star Trek movies... - 5/17/2013 7:05:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Darkfeather

Aaaannnd, just so ya don't think Star Trek got picked on, here's a list of all the tv shows that got made into baaad movies, just from the 60s and 70s... * ahem*

21 Jump Street, The A-Team, The Addams Family (and sequels), Alvin and the Chipmunks (and sequels), The Avengers, The Beverly Hillbillies, Bewitched, The Brady Bunch Movie, Charlie's Angels (and sequel), Dark Shadows, Dudley Do-Right, The Dukes of Hazzard, and I could go on and on and on



The entertainment rumor mill has had repeated talk of Johnny Depp redoing Rocky Horror.

Considering what he did to Barnabas Collins from Dark Shadows, I hate to think what he would do to Frankenfurter.


You sure? If anyone it would be Tim Burton not Depp who would mangle a classic

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RE: The latest Star Trek movies... - 5/17/2013 8:56:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Darkfeather


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


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ORIGINAL: Darkfeather

Aaaannnd, just so ya don't think Star Trek got picked on, here's a list of all the tv shows that got made into baaad movies, just from the 60s and 70s... * ahem*

21 Jump Street, The A-Team, The Addams Family (and sequels), Alvin and the Chipmunks (and sequels), The Avengers, The Beverly Hillbillies, Bewitched, The Brady Bunch Movie, Charlie's Angels (and sequel), Dark Shadows, Dudley Do-Right, The Dukes of Hazzard, and I could go on and on and on



The entertainment rumor mill has had repeated talk of Johnny Depp redoing Rocky Horror.

Considering what he did to Barnabas Collins from Dark Shadows, I hate to think what he would do to Frankenfurter.


You sure? If anyone it would be Tim Burton not Depp who would mangle a classic

Funny thing is Depp got his start on 21 Jump Street and he took a pass on appearing in the movie.

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RE: The latest Star Trek movies... - 5/17/2013 8:57:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Darkfeather


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


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ORIGINAL: Darkfeather

Aaaannnd, just so ya don't think Star Trek got picked on, here's a list of all the tv shows that got made into baaad movies, just from the 60s and 70s... * ahem*

21 Jump Street, The A-Team, The Addams Family (and sequels), Alvin and the Chipmunks (and sequels), The Avengers, The Beverly Hillbillies, Bewitched, The Brady Bunch Movie, Charlie's Angels (and sequel), Dark Shadows, Dudley Do-Right, The Dukes of Hazzard, and I could go on and on and on



The entertainment rumor mill has had repeated talk of Johnny Depp redoing Rocky Horror.

Considering what he did to Barnabas Collins from Dark Shadows, I hate to think what he would do to Frankenfurter.


You sure? If anyone it would be Tim Burton not Depp who would mangle a classic

Funny thing is Depp got his start on 21 Jump Street and he took a pass on appearing in the movie.


Ummm

Depp is in the movie.

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RE: The latest Star Trek movies... - 5/17/2013 9:00:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Darkfeather

Aaaannnd, just so ya don't think Star Trek got picked on, here's a list of all the tv shows that got made into baaad movies, just from the 60s and 70s... * ahem*

21 Jump Street, The A-Team, The Addams Family (and sequels), Alvin and the Chipmunks (and sequels), The Avengers, The Beverly Hillbillies, Bewitched, The Brady Bunch Movie, Charlie's Angels (and sequel), Dark Shadows, Dudley Do-Right, The Dukes of Hazzard, and I could go on and on and on



The entertainment rumor mill has had repeated talk of Johnny Depp redoing Rocky Horror.

Considering what he did to Barnabas Collins from Dark Shadows, I hate to think what he would do to Frankenfurter.

Au contraire. I think he'd do a splendid job in that role. The real question is, who would play Brad & Janet? Rocky? Dr. Scott? Eddie? And my personal favorites, Magenta and Riff-Raff...

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