RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin

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FelineRanger -> RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin (5/13/2013 8:54:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: czarski Oh yes, I CAN "be bothered to make the effort", that's what I am mostly doing here. Here I disagree with you. Making the effort means accepting the limitations of the site and working with them. As far as the fakes, scams, and "objectionable" profiles go, CM is no different than Yahoo groups, when they were the thing, or usenet groups. You have to be your own filter. To expect the site to change in order to accommodate your pet peeve is not practical until or unless you become one of the moderators or whatever CM's managers are called.

MasterCaneman -> RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin (5/13/2013 9:58:48 AM)
Shouldn't this be in General BDSM? And I'm with the above posters. This site is free, and the findommes drive eyeballs to the advertisers, as simple as that. I personally don't care, because I actually enjoy sorting through the profiles for the amusement factor, if nothing else. You want the real deal? Go out and find your local community. You want a quick fix? Hit CL or go downtown and start making the acquaintance of some of the working pros. A simple as that. Or, you want a rigidly moderated and controlled online experience, go to one of the pay sites.

sexyred1 -> RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin (5/13/2013 10:13:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: czarski apparently no one gets me. I am NOT complaining about findom, I am suggesting to separate it from realdom. Yes, most findommes will check the YES box - they are openly declaring their financial interest in their profile, but I still need to OPEN and at least SCAN those profiles, which devours most of my time on this site. I am not a Domme, but I am quite impressed by your Greek metaphors. You are definitely a smart dude so some patience would likely help you. If a Dom wrote me and likened himself to Sisyphus I would be most amenable to talking to him. As for your question, it is a free site, so nothing will be changed.

mnottertail -> RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin (5/13/2013 10:18:08 AM)
And I would like a checkbox that is for women who really wanna be slave as opposed to those who dont really wanna be slaves but say they do, and I want a checkbox for those who are real and not real, and I want a checkbox for magazine pictures and for real pictures, and I want a count of the number of profiles attached to each account. We all want.

myotherself -> RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin (5/13/2013 10:54:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: czarski Oh yes, I CAN "be bothered to make the effort", that's what I am mostly doing here. Now listen: relationships and commerce and DIFFERENT things that should exist in different sections of a warehouse. I doubt Match.com allows escorts ads to drown "legit" profiles. OK, people pay for that membership, but fees are not the principal question here. I've been on enough free forums to know that commercial ads are normally routed to a separate section. That's where you are wrong. Fees ARE the principal question here. On Match.com if 99% of the profiles were escorts, you would quite rightly be annoyed and be entitled to a refund. This isn't Match.com. It's a free site. You are entitled to exactly what the site is prepared to give you. No more, no less. The site is prepared to give you a personals side with the ability to narrow your search, as well as this forum side. It didn't promise you it would be free of people whose kinks don't match yours. It didn't promise you that everyone on this site is 'real'. What you are doing is making demands of a site that owes you nothing. Good luck with that.

TNDommeK -> RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin (5/13/2013 8:49:56 PM)
I want a checkbox for people who will buy us chocolates and wine.

absolutchocolat -> RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin (5/13/2013 11:32:00 PM)
FR For some folks, I think it is easier to blame everything but themselves for personal shortcomings. It means they don't have to do anything that requires self-reflection. Findommes aren't bad people, and deserve to be on this site just as much as I do. As much as I loathe some kinks (and financial domination in no way bothers me, actually), if it isn't breaking any laws or harming someone, it's okay with me, and okay with the site.

youdneverknowit -> RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin (5/15/2013 8:37:16 AM)
I'm in full accord with DaddySatyr's very valid point about the attempt to generate revenue through this site... and it occurred to me after garyFLR had mentioned it that I had never even heard of Findom/me prior to the financial debacle here in the states circa 2007-2009. The following is just my thought and my opinion. If you don't agree... tough. It's still MY opinion and position. I have to admit that I believe findom/me to be a bunch of non-sense, and I've so often noticed that when someone complains about something, and there are complaints made over and over about this particular something, and the mass of folk come against these few individuals with, "Shut up and deal with it you lazy bastard/bitch" --- most often, the person complaining is in the right. Did you ever notice that on the public platform of political discourse, significant and needed changes were always begun by generally a singular voice who was trodden by his fellow countrymen for his position that was against the grain? So it is, I believe, here the same. The 'mass of folk' are most often sheeple, advancing at ever increasing speed unto their own demise. Now, in our specific case, there is no mass demise that will accompany the simple nuissance of findommery. Except that I can very clearly see that there are likely enough motivated individuals to put together their own competition against CM and monitor and police the fuck out of it. Consider how much time and energy goes into scanning and sifting on our end, and if you consolidated our hours into one account, so to speak, I think unsympathetic folks would maybe drop their immediate disregard for czarski's disposition. Let's just be real honest about something, the primary complaint about findommery is coming from men who have interest in the dominant female. So, primarily switch/sub men. There are a shit ton of us that abound, and it wouldn't be too hard for us to link up and do something about this alternatively to CM if we were so inclined, since by all account, the owners are not interested in this issue. In that way, it is our own level of discontent and motivation that will determine whether or not we are able to once and for all "kill" findommery, and trust me, we could do it... and it wouldn't even be difficult. It's called networking, gents. czarski brings up an excellent point. It is a significant amount of time that one must give up to profile scan and sift, and searching4mysir is completely missing the point by calling him lazy because he doesn't want to deal with the non-sense. As well, I keep busy in my career, which I love, and I would rather not spend my off time profile scouring and sifting. It makes me feel a bit creepy anyway. I keep having this analogy in my head that it's almost like I'm a profile man-whore... I fuck hundreds of profiles on here (opening them up), and discard most of them without caring. Yes, I have a fucked up mind. So, I've pretty well said adios to the entire idea of meeting a potential mate on here... screw it. I'm not going to spend my off days on here and missing out on everything else I enjoy in life. All we are asking for is that there be a feature in the site that would be respectful of our time. If not, well, the idea of competition is certainly an option. As to absolutchocolat's point... "if it isn't breaking laws" --- well, I would genuinely like to know just how many of these recipient's of tribute are filing 1099's on unearned income/gifts. I can only assume that the plethora of findomme profiles on here is enough to suggest that there are some serious fuckin exchanges of money/gifts on here, to the tune of what? How much money has been unreported on here. I will bet you a big pretty penny that the IRS might like to know that as well. Ideas, ideas, ideas...

searching4mysir -> RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin (5/15/2013 10:26:42 AM)
quote: czarski brings up an excellent point. It is a significant amount of time that one must give up to profile scan and sift, and searching4mysir is completely missing the point by calling him lazy because he doesn't want to deal with the non-sense. How hard is it to hit the hide button when you don't want to see a profile again? It takes a millisecond and then it will never show up in your searches again. To me, that IS lazy, and as a fellow sub, laziness is not a quality that most dominants are looking for.

youdneverknowit -> RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin (5/15/2013 10:39:52 AM)
It's not about laziness. It's about time management. ;)

DaddySatyr -> RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin (5/15/2013 10:42:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: searching4mysir How hard is it to hit the hide button when you don't want to see a profile again? It takes a millisecond and then it will never show up in your searches again. To me, that IS lazy, and as a fellow sub, laziness is not a quality that most dominants are looking for. How hard would it be to install a button that not only hid the profile but would generate a report for "findom(m)ery" (Yes, I made up my own word)? People could hide the profiles and help "police" the site for the moderators. I know I report profiles that I find that are in violation, constantly. Again, if people are using the site to make money, why should they be able to do so for free? I LOVE the fact that this is a free site and I LOVE the fact that the staff works hard and the owners spend money to pay for bandwidth. Why not do something to help reduce those burdens on the people that are so kind to us? Peace and comfort, Michael

searching4mysir -> RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin (5/15/2013 10:44:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: youdneverknowit It's not about laziness. It's about time management. ;) So, when i was searching, should I have complained about all the men showing their toys or their dicks in their profiles instead of just hiding the profile? Or the ones showing porn still after porn still? or the ones saying they were married or needed to be discreet/discrete? No, I managed my time by hiding the profile so it never came up again.

LadyPact -> RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin (5/15/2013 10:55:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr How hard would it be to install a button that not only hid the profile but would generate a report for "findom(m)ery" (Yes, I made up my own word)? People could hide the profiles and help "police" the site for the moderators. I know I report profiles that I find that are in violation, constantly. Again, if people are using the site to make money, why should they be able to do so for free? I LOVE the fact that this is a free site and I LOVE the fact that the staff works hard and the owners spend money to pay for bandwidth. Why not do something to help reduce those burdens on the people that are so kind to us? Peace and comfort, Michael This part is a little off. Why would you want to report findommes if the site says that all kinks are welcome here?

TNDommeK -> RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin (5/15/2013 12:04:07 PM)
Was thinking the same thing.^^^

MasterCaneman -> RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin (5/15/2013 4:59:20 PM)
I kinda like the word "findommery", to be honest...

TNDommeK -> RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin (5/15/2013 6:28:54 PM)
I think I do too.

LizDeluxe -> RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin (5/15/2013 6:54:42 PM)
Financial dommes exist because there is an adequate enough supply of submissives to fund them. If that supply dries up, the financial dommes will go away. I think the OP has a good suggestion but I think he's approaching the problem from the wrong direction.

youdneverknowit -> RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin (5/15/2013 7:49:37 PM)
Findommery.... I made that up folks, however b/c I'm a harsh critic, I wanted to type findummery, but I self-restrained. Anybody catch the passive-aggressive here? Didn't think so. Lol.

youdneverknowit -> RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin (5/15/2013 8:09:30 PM)
I don't think my irritation at findommery is as much about profile sifting (time-wasting) as it is about not recognizing things for what they are. It's like a twisted form of charity. I will subject myself in the following admission to anyone who wants to sarcastically call me noble or whatever... I make a pretty nice living, and I happen to be the kind of person that is inclined toward helping those who are less fortunate, thus a significant amount of my income is directed at such folks. I've never understood where this came from and why because no one in my family was this way, it just is so for me. I guess I'm put off by a 'kink' that makes a charity contribution some sort of sexual fetish. Am I judging it? Yes. Do I care that I'm closed-minded about it? Not really. It's my opinion. Someone will likely find some flaw in my reasoning, and make an analogy about it. Go ahead, but I don't really care. These are my thoughts on it, and likely, they will not change. I've never once felt the same way about pro-dommes for some reason, and I've never had the desire to visit one.

DomMeinCT -> RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin (5/15/2013 8:22:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: czarski It narrows the pool of prospects down to the REAL prospects. Do you even read findom profiles? There are PLENTY of findoms ANGRY about being contacted by scores of men unwilling to pay for the service. What I suggest would help both sides. Great, and once you manage to cull out all the "fakes", what about the 99.99% of the "real" ones that aren't actually compatible and/or interested in you? For the time you've spent testing the waters on a long-beaten-and-dead idea here, you could have hidden every single "fake" domme in your geographic area and focused on the "real" dommes.

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