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Owner59 -> Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/16/2013 9:48:12 PM)


Oh What a Tangled Web We Weave When First We Practice to Deceive



"One day after The White House released 100 pages of Benghazi emails, a report has surfaced alleging that Republicans released a set with altered text.

CBS News reported Thursday that leaked versions sent out by the GOP last Friday had visible differences than Wednesday's official batch. Two correspondences that were singled out in the report came from National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes and State Department Spokeswoman Victoria Nuland.

The GOP version of Rhodes' comment, according to CBS News: "We must make sure that the talking points reflect all agency equities, including those of the State Department, and we don't want to undermine the FBI investigation."

The White House email: "We need to resolve this in a way that respects all of the relevant equities, particularly the investigation."

The GOP version of Nuland's comment, according to CBS News: The penultimate point is a paragraph talking about all the previous warnings provided by the Agency (CIA) about al-Qaeda's presence and activities of al-Qaeda."

The White House email: "The penultimate point could be abused by members to beat the State Department for not paying attention to Agency warnings."

The news parallels a Tuesday CNN report which initially introduced the contradiction between what was revealed in a White House Benghazi email version, versus what was reported in media outlets. On Monday, Mother Jones noted that the Republicans' interim report included the correct version of the emails, signaling that more malice and less incompetence may have been at play with the alleged alterations.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/16/republicans-benghazi-emails_n_3289428.html?utm_hp_ref=politics




RottenJohnny -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/16/2013 11:12:08 PM)

Maybe I'm missing the original intent but other than the typical word spinning that goes on in DC all the time, where's the damage?




DarkSteven -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/17/2013 2:37:28 AM)

I'm lost. The GOP versions seems no worse than the originals, unless I'm missing something. Why the hell would they alter messages and lose credibility, for no gain whatsoever? Is everyone hopelessly stupid in Washington?




DomKen -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/17/2013 2:46:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I'm lost. The GOP versions seems no worse than the originals, unless I'm missing something. Why the hell would they alter messages and lose credibility, for no gain whatsoever? Is everyone hopelessly stupid in Washington?

They added the State Department so they could attack HRC and try and dirty her up before 2016. Before the election they tried to use Banghazi to derail the President's reelection but now it is all about going after Hilary. Just watch a video of the hearings then and now and count the number of times the Republican Congressmen say each name.




epiphiny43 -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/17/2013 2:47:50 AM)

The originals jibe well with a group dealing with the 'fog of war' trying to meet with the demands on them. The altered versions fit the conspiracy theories that politics were the prime consideration along with covering the bureaucrats' ass.
That the originals were available and 'spin' was put in quotes shows the clear understanding by those making an issue of all this that truth walks, lies fly. I talk to Faux News true believers every day, none Ever question a story they've heard and tune out any later 'clarification'. Why the Republicans still can get adults to vote for them? We'll diss the Democrats for their different faults on other threads?




DesideriScuri -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/17/2013 5:11:35 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
I'm lost. The GOP versions seems no worse than the originals, unless I'm missing something. Why the hell would they alter messages and lose credibility, for no gain whatsoever? Is everyone hopelessly stupid in Washington?


Yes. Yes. 535 times YES! [:)]




DaddySatyr -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/17/2013 5:23:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
I'm lost. The GOP versions seems no worse than the originals, unless I'm missing something. Why the hell would they alter messages and lose credibility, for no gain whatsoever? Is everyone hopelessly stupid in Washington?


Yes. Yes. 535 times YES! [:)]


Ahem ... 537




Moonlightmaddnes -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/17/2013 5:50:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
I'm lost. The GOP versions seems no worse than the originals, unless I'm missing something. Why the hell would they alter messages and lose credibility, for no gain whatsoever? Is everyone hopelessly stupid in Washington?


Yes. Yes. 535 times YES! [:)]



Very much so, I do not even keep track of politics anymore. It is all nothing but a bunch of idiots saying what they think people want to hear.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/17/2013 6:18:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
I'm lost. The GOP versions seems no worse than the originals, unless I'm missing something. Why the hell would they alter messages and lose credibility, for no gain whatsoever? Is everyone hopelessly stupid in Washington?

Yes. Yes. 535 times YES! [:)]

Ahem ... 537


There are 2 that I like. [8D]




subsissy4bbc -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/17/2013 6:19:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: epiphiny43

The originals jibe well with a group dealing with the 'fog of war' trying to meet with the demands on them. The altered versions fit the conspiracy theories that politics were the prime consideration along with covering the bureaucrats' ass.
That the originals were available and 'spin' was put in quotes shows the clear understanding by those making an issue of all this that truth walks, lies fly. I talk to Faux News true believers every day, none Ever question a story they've heard and tune out any later 'clarification'. Why the Republicans still can get adults to vote for them? We'll diss the Democrats for their different faults on other threads?



I don't see what the big deal is, they both say pretty much the same thing, the "Republican versions" are just more clear because they clarify what parties are being discussed. Also did I miss where a computer tech verified which is the original versions? To believe that what the administration says are the originals, just because they say so, is foolish given how many times their stories have changed so far.

And not to be confrontational but your opinion is kind of diminished by the fact that you refer to Fox News as Faux News. You don't already have a bias, do you? Personally I watch all the different news channels and read various articles on the Internet because there is bias in all of them and to get the truth you need to see things from every perspective.

Finally, in regards to the post above about all this being to diminish Hillary Clinton, here name is mentioned so much because she was supposed to be in charge of that department. I understand that as large as the government is she can't be expected to know every detail, which is a problem for a different discussion, but she made herself look foolish by not gathering ever detail she could after the fact, to find out what went wrong. Blaming a video and suggesting that we can fix the problem, without knowing what caused it also did not help her cause. How many months later, in her little "what does it matter now" blow up, she still couldn't say that it was terrorism, it was because of a video or just people out for a walk. smh




DaddySatyr -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/17/2013 6:37:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
quote:

ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Yes. Yes. 535 times YES! [:)]

Ahem ... 537


There are 2 that I like. [8D]



Is it that they're from Ohio or they look good in skirts? LOL



Peace and comfort,



Michael




thompsonx -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/17/2013 6:58:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subsissy4bbc
I don't see what the big deal is, they both say pretty much the same thing, the "Republican versions" are just more clear because they clarify what parties are being discussed.


Perhaps a closer association with the meaning of the word quote would be useful.


quote:

Also did I miss where a computer tech verified which is the original versions? To believe that what the administration says are the originals, just because they say so, is foolish given how many times their stories have changed so far.


As compared to faux news which it's owner refers to as the "propaganda arm of the republican party"

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And not to be confrontational but your opinion is kind of diminished by the fact that you refer to Fox News as Faux News. You don't already have a bias, do you?


One of the reasons it is refered to as faux news is that they refuse to broadcast the facts. In canada that is illegal so faux news is not allowed to spread it's propaganda in canada.

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Finally, in regards to the post above about all this being to diminish Hillary Clinton, here name is mentioned so much because she was supposed to be in charge of that department. I understand that as large as the government is she can't be expected to know every detail, which is a problem for a different discussion, but she made herself look foolish by not gathering ever detail she could after the fact, to find out what went wrong.


What went wrong??????Because someone recognized a "soft target" and took it implies that something went wrong????

quote:

Blaming a video and suggesting that we can fix the problem, without knowing what caused it also did not help her cause. How many months later, in her little "what does it matter now" blow up, she still couldn't say that it was terrorism, it was because of a video or just people out for a walk. smh


Perhaps a little research on the "back story" about te vidio. From what I have read it looks like the administration is tryng to get enough traction to go after the fellow who made it.




Owner59 -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/17/2013 7:00:42 AM)


Funny how when the republicans get caught being their usual world-class-dick selves........all of a sudden their narrative goes from Obama`s hitler/stalin to "oh, they`re there all bad".......[8|]


What a bunch of punks.....[sm=marionette.gif]






Arturas -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/17/2013 9:51:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

quote:

ORIGINAL: subsissy4bbc
I don't see what the big deal is, they both say pretty much the same thing, the "Republican versions" are just more clear because they clarify what parties are being discussed.


Perhaps a closer association with the meaning of the word quote would be useful.

She is correct. Drilling down into the facts is a good thing, not bad. But nice spin.
quote:

Also did I miss where a computer tech verified which is the original versions? To believe that what the administration says are the originals, just because they say so, is foolish given how many times their stories have changed so far.


As compared to faux news which it's owner refers to as the "propaganda arm of the republican party"

That shot is meaningless and suggests you having nothing substantial to counter her excellent points.
quote:

And not to be confrontational but your opinion is kind of diminished by the fact that you refer to Fox News as Faux News. You don't already have a bias, do you?


One of the reasons it is refered to as faux news is that they refuse to broadcast the facts. In canada that is illegal so faux news is not allowed to spread it's propaganda in canada.

This is also incredible. If I were to sink to your level I would suggest MSNBC is the propaganda arm of the Left. Oops...
quote:

Finally, in regards to the post above about all this being to diminish Hillary Clinton, here name is mentioned so much because she was supposed to be in charge of that department. I understand that as large as the government is she can't be expected to know every detail, which is a problem for a different discussion, but she made herself look foolish by not gathering ever detail she could after the fact, to find out what went wrong.


What went wrong??????Because someone recognized a "soft target" and took it implies that something went wrong????

No. What is wrong is it was a soft target to begin with because of poor leadership from the top and is softer even now that we have lost face in the world by letting it happen. Hellooo...reality check.
quote:

Blaming a video and suggesting that we can fix the problem, without knowing what caused it also did not help her cause. How many months later, in her little "what does it matter now" blow up, she still couldn't say that it was terrorism, it was because of a video or just people out for a walk. smh


Perhaps a little research on the "back story" about te vidio. From what I have read it looks like the administration is tryng to get enough traction to go after the fellow who made it.


Oh? Perhaps to be credible you can share this "back story"? But in the meantime, let me share this, from what I have read the administration cannot protect or even rescue Americans, which from what I read in the Constitution is it's primary responsibility, "to provide for the common defense" and from what I read the President is the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces charged with this Constitutional responsibility and "reason for being". So, we should fire him for failing. Failure is not an option for the President and fail he did.




Arturas -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/17/2013 10:07:59 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59


Funny how when the republicans get caught being their usual world-class-dick selves........all of a sudden their narrative goes from Obama`s hitler/stalin to "oh, they`re there all bad".......[8|]


What a bunch of punks.....[sm=marionette.gif]






So, again you must turn to name calling. Do you have a large four wheel truck because I sense you are a little man with a need to build your little self up by tearing people down.




mnottertail -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/17/2013 10:11:09 AM)

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Oh? Perhaps to be credible you can share this "back story"? But in the meantime, let me share this, from what I have read the administration cannot protect or even rescue Americans, which from what I read in the Constitution is it's primary responsibility, "to provide for the common defense" and from what I read the President is the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces charged with this Constitutional responsibility and "reason for being". So, we should fire him for failing. Failure is not an option for the President and fail he did.


LOL.  This is quite possibly the largest turd ever swallowed on the internet.




papassion -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/17/2013 10:45:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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Oh? Perhaps to be credible you can share this "back story"? But in the meantime, let me share this, from what I have read the administration cannot protect or even rescue Americans, which from what I read in the Constitution is it's primary responsibility, "to provide for the common defense" and from what I read the President is the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces charged with this Constitutional responsibility and "reason for being". So, we should fire him for failing. Failure is not an option for the President and fail he did.




LOL.  This is quite possibly the largest turd ever swallowed on the internet.


LOL Please point out what part of his post was incorrect.




mnottertail -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/17/2013 10:48:26 AM)

All of it.




DomKen -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/17/2013 10:55:34 AM)

People are actually trying to justify fake quotes of emails as being clarifications? I know some conservatives are stupid and believe any bullshit they're fed by Fox and Rush but come on what do they think quotation marks mean?




joether -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/17/2013 11:11:34 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arturas
Oh? Perhaps to be credible you can share this "back story"? But in the meantime, let me share this, from what I have read the administration cannot protect or even rescue Americans, which from what I read in the Constitution is it's primary responsibility, "to provide for the common defense" and from what I read the President is the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces charged with this Constitutional responsibility and "reason for being". So, we should fire him for failing. Failure is not an option for the President and fail he did.


Why not go ask Osama bin Laden how the current President of the United States of America '...provide for the common defense...'?

While your at it, check your 'hatred of the president' at the door. Since it was not he would gave us the watered down version of The Affordable Care Act. His version was much better, kept costs down, and allowed for more freedom with medical care for the common people. You want to know who screwed that up? Go have a chat with the party you elect each year like a drone....

If the President has done so badly with "...to provide for the common defense....", does that not also mean you should blame former President George W. Bush at least a hundred times as much? So you are blaming a guy who is doing a hundred times better job than the previous sitting president, rather than encourage him to do better?




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