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WHY....do we the American people even listen to any of these GOP members that are in Congress?

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So the question I have is, would you take.....ANYONE....in Congress seriously when they try to bash the White House for....ANYTHING?

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ORIGINAL: joether
The President had a pretty hard week, last week. Three big problems that were only added on by the GOP. But the curious issue I keep wondering is....WHY....do we the American people even listen to any of these GOP members that are in Congress? You might have heard that the President's numbers are in the 50-53% Range. While the whole of Congress (that would be both Democrats, Independents AND Republicans) is hovering at 16%. In fact, Americans seem to score Republicans (14%) worst than Democrats (19%).
So you may or may not like how the President is doing, but at least half the nation thinks he's doing an 'o.k.' job. Were as with Congress, 4/5 people in the nation think they are sucking at their jobs. So the question I have is, would you take.....ANYONE....in Congress seriously when they try to bash the White House for....ANYTHING?

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So the question I have is, would you take.....ANYONE....in Congress seriously when they try to bash the White House for....ANYTHING?

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WHY....do we the American people even listen to any of these GOP members that are in Congress?

Why do they listen to the Dems who are mirror opposites?

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So the question I have is, would you take.....ANYONE....in Congress seriously when they try to bash the White House for....ANYTHING?

I usually don't. I think most of them are self serving idiots on both sides.

That said I do hold out hope for Senator Stabenow.

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The President had a pretty hard week, last week. Three big problems that were only added on by the GOP. But the curious issue I keep wondering is....WHY....do we the American people even listen to any of these GOP members that are in Congress? You might have heard that the President's numbers are in the 50-53% Range. While the whole of Congress (that would be both Democrats, Independents AND Republicans) is hovering at 16%. In fact, Americans seem to score Republicans (14%) worst than Democrats (19%).
So you may or may not like how the President is doing, but at least half the nation thinks he's doing an 'o.k.' job. Were as with Congress, 4/5 people in the nation think they are sucking at their jobs. So the question I have is, would you take.....ANYONE....in Congress seriously when they try to bash the White House for....ANYTHING?

I don't know that that's a fair comparison, actually. Think about it. When you are asked about your support of Congress, you are being asked to rate 537 people while you only have the opportunity to elect 3? Is anyone surprised that the numbers are so low? How do the elected officials rate according to their constituents? That would be a much more accurate comparison. 304M (or so) people have 1 President out of 1 total Presidents to rate.

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WHY....do we the American people even listen to any of these GOP members that are in Congress?

Why do they listen to the Dems who are mirror opposites?

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So the question I have is, would you take.....ANYONE....in Congress seriously when they try to bash the White House for....ANYTHING?

I usually don't. I think most of them are self serving idiots on both sides.

That said I do hold out hope for Senator Stabenow.

Really?



Have the democrat leaders manufactured fake evidence against a republican?

Did I say anywhere that they had? I said I think most of them (on both sides) are self serving idiots but I kinda like Stabenow. Maybe you wouldn't look like such an idiot if you just learned how to read and quit putting words in peoples mouths.

Is there any chance you`ll stop lying?
Show me one lie in that post or admit that you just like making baseless accusations about people.

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The President had a pretty hard week, last week. Three big problems that were only added on by the GOP. But the curious issue I keep wondering is....WHY....do we the American people even listen to any of these GOP members that are in Congress? You might have heard that the President's numbers are in the 50-53% Range. While the whole of Congress (that would be both Democrats, Independents AND Republicans) is hovering at 16%. In fact, Americans seem to score Republicans (14%) worst than Democrats (19%).
So you may or may not like how the President is doing, but at least half the nation thinks he's doing an 'o.k.' job. Were as with Congress, 4/5 people in the nation think they are sucking at their jobs. So the question I have is, would you take.....ANYONE....in Congress seriously when they try to bash the White House for....ANYTHING?

I don't know that that's a fair comparison, actually. Think about it. When you are asked about your support of Congress, you are being asked to rate 537 people while you only have the opportunity to elect 3? Is anyone surprised that the numbers are so low? How do the elected officials rate according to their constituents? That would be a much more accurate comparison. 304M (or so) people have 1 President out of 1 total Presidents to rate.

Do you get to elect the President's Cabinet? How about the US Supreme Court? If the Executive or the Judicial approval numbers were 16%, would you be 'flipping mad' about it? Oh hell yeah! Yet, your 'ok' with Congress, the third branch of our government sinking down to one third the approval numbers of the other two branches? Maybe we as Americans ought to hold the whole of Congress to the same standards as the other two branches. Right now, it seems the Republicans are pulling down the numbers more than the Democrats. This 'Benghazi' thing is to the current Republicans, what 'Iraq' was to Republicans a decade previous: takes your attention off how badly they are doing their jobs! "Look over here, DONT, look over there!" is the message they are pushing.
You can only elect three point, right? Yet, how many of them are lawyers? How many of them are NOT rich? Does that sound like an accurate picture of America? Isn't Congress the branch for all Americans and not certain Americans? An when its time to elect someone to represent us in Congress, the field is only a half dozen? Your going to tell me that there are only a half dozen able-bodied, intelligent persons in your state qualified for the position(s)? How about we restrict all campaign spending to only 1/10th of what the position pays? And if your not supporting yourself, but others, its restricted to 1/2 that amount for ALL candidates? We have seen countless times in which 'money talks' and Americans lose every time. Would certainly force people to 'live within their budget', wouldn't it? After all, can you take someone seriously who 'spends high on the hog' to get elected, and then demand them to 'balance the US budget'? How many years has that budget been in a deficit? Twelve years now?

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Many here judge the presidents popularity by simple whatever he does is bad.
But they are a vast minority, and without much in the way of fact.
But, I think at the end of the dqy, the Presidency is not a popularity contest.  

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I think DesideriScuri's got a point. People may not like Congress as a whole, but the majority do like thier particular representative, and they listen to that person.

It's in each representative's interest to do and say things to appeal to their constituency (and donors, and the party higher-ups), even if it seems ridiculous or obstructive to everybody else. Darrell Issa's Republican voter base, for example, probably loves it that he's making a big deal about Benghazi. Most people in the country don't think it's a scandal, but he's not concerned with "most" people, just the ones that can vote for him.

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The President had a pretty hard week, last week. Three big problems that were only added on by the GOP. But the curious issue I keep wondering is....WHY....do we the American people even listen to any of these GOP members that are in Congress? You might have heard that the President's numbers are in the 50-53% Range. While the whole of Congress (that would be both Democrats, Independents AND Republicans) is hovering at 16%. In fact, Americans seem to score Republicans (14%) worst than Democrats (19%).

So you may or may not like how the President is doing, but at least half the nation thinks he's doing an 'o.k.' job. Were as with Congress, 4/5 people in the nation think they are sucking at their jobs. So the question I have is, would you take.....ANYONE....in Congress seriously when they try to bash the White House for....ANYTHING?

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Do we judge the President on the popularity of the SCOTUS? his Cabinet?

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The President had a pretty hard week, last week. Three big problems that were only added on by the GOP. But the curious issue I keep wondering is....WHY....do we the American people even listen to any of these GOP members that are in Congress? You might have heard that the President's numbers are in the 50-53% Range. While the whole of Congress (that would be both Democrats, Independents AND Republicans) is hovering at 16%. In fact, Americans seem to score Republicans (14%) worst than Democrats (19%).

So you may or may not like how the President is doing, but at least half the nation thinks he's doing an 'o.k.' job. Were as with Congress, 4/5 people in the nation think they are sucking at their jobs. So the question I have is, would you take.....ANYONE....in Congress seriously when they try to bash the White House for....ANYTHING?

I don't take either the Republicans or Democrats seriously. When a Republican is in the White House, they consider the Presidency to be sacrosanct, while the Democrats do not. When a Democrat is in the White House, it's vice versa.

That's what I've noticed that stands out the most about political partisans (from both sides). Their principles of governance change depending on which party controls the White House.

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ORIGINAL: joether
The President had a pretty hard week, last week. Three big problems that were only added on by the GOP. But the curious issue I keep wondering is....WHY....do we the American people even listen to any of these GOP members that are in Congress? You might have heard that the President's numbers are in the 50-53% Range. While the whole of Congress (that would be both Democrats, Independents AND Republicans) is hovering at 16%. In fact, Americans seem to score Republicans (14%) worst than Democrats (19%).

So you may or may not like how the President is doing, but at least half the nation thinks he's doing an 'o.k.' job. Were as with Congress, 4/5 people in the nation think they are sucking at their jobs. So the question I have is, would you take.....ANYONE....in Congress seriously when they try to bash the White House for....ANYTHING?

I don't take either the Republicans or Democrats seriously. When a Republican is in the White House, they consider the Presidency to be sacrosanct, while the Democrats do not. When a Democrat is in the White House, it's vice versa.

That's what I've noticed that stands out the most about political partisans (from both sides). Their principles of governance change depending on which party controls the White House.

Your missing the point entirely. This is not about the President or the White House. This is about CONGRESS. Would you take the White House seriously if their approval numbers were 16%? Of course not! But why allow another major branch of the US Government to get that low?

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Do we judge the President on the popularity of the SCOTUS? his Cabinet?

We judge the current sitting president (regardless of which party they might be) on a host of different things. I say to judge the president fairly, not over petty or irrelevant things. Clinton got impeached for having an affair that did not do anything bad to the nation as a whole. Bush lied to the nation to get us into a war that got 4,000+ US Soldiers killed, 25,000+ US Soldiers injured, put 100,000+ civilians to the sword, and wasted $4 trillion dollars of borrowed money, but was never impeached. Which of these two should have been judged....HARSHER....for their actions?
How many conservatives judge the president picking of Eric Holder to being a 'bad idea'? There it is, before you DS, an example of the President being judged on WHO is in his cabinet.

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