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Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms *outside* prison? - 5/20/2013 8:13:12 PM

androticus

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From what I've been told, the practice of nominally straight guys making another guy their bitch boy in prison is actually real.

So where are these guys outside prison???

And no, I just don't buy this cliche that "oh, they turn 'gay' in prison because there are no women" -- that seems like total rationalizing B.S. to me! As a gay male, I've often gone long periods without male companionship and I'm surrounded by women, but that didn't make me turn straight or want to use women!

I'd be interested in hearing from some basically straight Dom Masters--don't you sometimes get the urge to satisfy your primal alpha male urges by subjugating another male and forcing him to do your bidding?

And how much "alpha" does it actually take, really, to tie up a weak little 97 lb female subbie? Don't you sometimes crave some prey that can fight back? (<-- ok, I realize I'm probably going to hell, on a flaming parachute, for those last 2... ;) ;)

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RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms *outside* prison? - 5/20/2013 8:27:15 PM

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What part of 'straight' is new to you?

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RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms *outside* prison? - 5/20/2013 9:08:45 PM

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"Where are the straight doms?"

Hangin' with their female partners, that's where, NOT wanting or needing to be 'converted'. What part of s t r a i g h t do you not understand, and why do you feel the need to push your agenda here?

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RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms *outside* prison? - 5/20/2013 9:16:32 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: androticus

I'd be interested in hearing from some basically straight Dom Masters--don't you sometimes get the urge to satisfy your primal alpha male urges by subjugating another male and forcing him to do your bidding?

No.

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And how much "alpha" does it actually take, really, to tie up a weak little 97 lb female subbie? Don't you sometimes crave some prey that can fight back? (<-- ok, I realize I'm probably going to hell, on a flaming parachute, for those last 2... ;) ;)

androticus

Sorry, fella. I'm straight.

Y'know, if I were you, I'd be looking for gay men. just a thought.

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RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms *outside* prison? - 5/20/2013 10:54:35 PM

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What's the name of that one poster that started a few threads recently about how he's totally straight but he likes to dominate men?

He didn't sound like he had any sort of regard for the people he played with though, so I'm not sure he's a good example.

OP - I know you'd never consider sleeping with a woman, but I do think there is a sub-section of men who are flexible enough about their sexuality that they will accept a blowjob from another male when nothing else is available, but not in other circumstances. In which case I don't think you're going to have much luck outside that environment.

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RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms *outside* prison? - 5/20/2013 11:02:16 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: androticus
And how much "alpha" does it actually take, really, to tie up a weak little 97 lb female subbie? Don't you sometimes crave some prey that can fight back? (<-- ok, I realize I'm probably going to hell, on a flaming parachute, for those last 2... ;) ;)

This is ask a Master, but man, I feel you there. Of course I always wanted to be the kind of woman who could beat up a man so maybe I should just go back to my section.

I figure the term you're looking for is heteroflexible.

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RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms *outside* prison? - 5/20/2013 11:04:04 PM

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There are strait men who enjoy playing with men. both Dominant strait men who like beating or torturing men, or submissive men who like 'forced' bi activities. Those are only 2 examples. It is not necessary to 'prove' that you are secure in 'your own strait sexuality' by doing play you don't like, but it is true that some Dom men who are very secure in their own sexuality don't mind playing with a male sub. My last Master had a male playmate, as did several other of the strait male Doms in our munch group. I suppose 'hetroflexible' would be the right word, but there was no sex, just play, so maybe 'strait' still fits better. There are some gay male subs who particularly like serving such strait Doms. Human sexuality is extremely rich and diverse - if someone can think it, someone else can want to do it.

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RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms *outside* prison? - 5/20/2013 11:14:04 PM

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I really doubt that even those "prison gay" guys are really, actually, 100% straight. I think probably they're bi and just generally go for women when available.

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RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms *outside* prison? - 5/20/2013 11:16:31 PM

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I don't believe there is anything wrong of straight men non sexually dominating gay men.

However, challenging straight men who aren't in jail, to dominate you (sexually or not), may be a little bit of a harder trick to pull out of the pony.

It's best to find heteroflexible folks, ?gay men who wanted to be forced..., or the willing (ready to label themselves or not), to play with you. M

< Message edited by BlkTallFullfig -- 5/20/2013 11:19:20 PM >

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RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms *outside* prison? - 5/20/2013 11:57:12 PM

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I'm not going to speak for the guys. Just My own perspective as a straight female.

I'm an equal opportunity sadist. I don't care what genitals the person has that I'm beating. Sexually, I don't engage with women because I am not attracted to women in that way. I'm not hetero-flexible for scenes and I'm sure I'm not the only Dominant who feels that way about it. Don't get Me wrong. I love doing forced bi scenes for males or incorporating that into the obedience in a dynamic. It's also one of the things that, if I were on the other side of the kneel, would be at the very dang top of My hard limit list.

In My opinion, I think folks should respect that there really are zeros and sixes on the Kinsey scale. Trying to goad somebody who isn't interested in a particular gender by claiming that it would satisfy their "primal alpha" urges just shows that you don't understand what drives their sexuality at all.

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RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms *outside* prison? - 5/21/2013 12:52:13 AM

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That came out completely wrong!

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don't believe there is anything wrong of straight men non sexually dominating gay men.

OF COURSE, DOMINANCE SHOULD ONLY BE BETWEEN CONSENTING adult MEN/WOMEN, no matter what side of the kneel you arrive from.

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RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms *outside* prison? - 5/21/2013 1:03:03 AM

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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt

"Where are the straight doms?"

Hangin' with their female partners, that's where, NOT wanting or needing to be 'converted'. What part of s t r a i g h t do you not understand, and why do you feel the need to push your agenda here?

Not everyone who is into BDSM is doing it for SEX you know. Many of us don't include sex AT ALL in our dynamics and still have a very close, fun Relationship.

OP, keep searching, ask people in your area, go to munches. Perhaps you could join a poly household or something.

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RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms *outside* prison? - 5/21/2013 1:10:28 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tsatske

There are strait men who enjoy playing with men. both Dominant strait men who like beating or torturing men, or submissive men who like 'forced' bi activities. Those are only 2 examples. It is not necessary to 'prove' that you are secure in 'your own strait sexuality' by doing play you don't like, but it is true that some Dom men who are very secure in their own sexuality don't mind playing with a male sub. My last Master had a male playmate, as did several other of the strait male Doms in our munch group. I suppose 'hetroflexible' would be the right word, but there was no sex, just play, so maybe 'strait' still fits better. There are some gay male subs who particularly like serving such strait Doms. Human sexuality is extremely rich and diverse - if someone can think it, someone else can want to do it.

Yes, and some strictly lesbian Dommes I know have male subs...and some straight Dommes (like Myself) have some male subs who are strictly GAY.

This must be MINDBOGGLING for those who thought BDSM was about SEX.

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RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms *outside* prison? - 5/21/2013 5:38:56 AM

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I have to comment on this. I cant help it!!!

Straight men are straight, there is no middle ground. They don't do men in any way shape or form. If a man goes beyond a one or two time experimentation, they can cloak it anyway they want, saying its a power trip, and use any excuse under the sun, but if a man is accepting Bj's from other men, they are bi sexual! ITs pure denial saying anything else.

IM a straight woman, and I mean straight, if I was trapped on a desert island for years with just a female, I would not want to get all sexy with her EVER.

If you swing both ways under any circumstances, its ludicrous to say your anything but bi. Straight people are disgusted by the thought of sexual acts with the opposite sex. They admire their beauty, the person they are, etc. But sexual acts aren't an attractive thought or a serious consideration.

hetero flexible is the silliest term, seriously.

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RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms *outside* prison? - 5/21/2013 6:00:55 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MAINEiacMISTRESS

Not everyone who is into BDSM is doing it for SEX you know. Many of us don't include sex AT ALL in our dynamics and still have a very close, fun Relationship.

OP, keep searching, ask people in your area, go to munches. Perhaps you could join a poly household or something.

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ORIGINAL: MAINEiacMISTRESS

Yes, and some strictly lesbian Dommes I know have male subs...and some straight Dommes (like Myself) have some male subs who are strictly GAY.

This must be MINDBOGGLING for those who thought BDSM was about SEX.

This is true, but the popular cultural stereotype of the prison bitch is not two guys engaging in non-sexual BDSM or D/s - it's engaging in guy-on-guy sexual acts and/or male rape. So it's not surprising that people are jumping to the conclusion that the OP is looking for a sexual relationship.

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RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms *outside* prison? - 5/21/2013 8:10:30 AM

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Considering what he's asking for, to be beaten into submission and forced to be a prison bitch, I think it's a safe bet the op is looking for sex.

The gay magazines have ads for pro gay tops who are willing to engage in sexual activities, op. Pay one of them to act this out since you apparently can't get anyone to engage with you otherwise.

Otherwise he really doesn't understand what's going on here. Lots of D types don't want to subjugate their partners. They prefer willing submission so there would be no desire for the force play that so turns opie on.

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RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms *outside* prison? - 5/21/2013 8:12:30 AM

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No, if they were straight they would rather have a wank than fuck a guy... Sorry to burst your bubble, any man claiming to be hetrosexual while getting his man parts serviced by another man... Is in denial. oh I've heard a lot of stories, some first hand, about the types of dominating games that can go on in prison... Personally, I think there are a lot of less gay ways to dominate someone than to have sex with him... While prison is a topic I'm not too knowledgeable about, I'm pretty much an expert at being straight, so for those who may be unsure let me clarify:
Being straight involves, among other things, NOT cumming on, in or while thinking about men.
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RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms *outside* prison? - 5/21/2013 10:09:13 AM

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I would go so far as to add not while BEING with a man either.

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RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms *outside* prison? - 5/21/2013 1:00:59 PM

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OP, judging by your post, it sounds like you equate BDSM with sex. The kinky stuff is called BDSM. D/s is called D/s. Sex is called sex. Three different things that sometimes are and sometimes aren't happening at the same time, in any combination or singly.

I'm a straight Domme. I can Top or Dominate someone without including sex in the dynamic at all. My sub that I have, yeah, we do have sex sometimes, but I can also Top someone else, either male or female, without including sexual activities in it at all. It doesn't matter what genitals the bottom has, the sadism is just as satisfying for me. It scratches my itch just the same.

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RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms *outside* prison? - 5/21/2013 1:18:47 PM

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As NBMG said, some folks don't understand that BDSM isn't necessarily about sex.
I can flog the hell out of a male and when I was in competition, I used to enjoy hell out of hurting them.
I can tell a guy to mow my fucking yard and do it right. I enjoy telling someone to do things and see them done.
If he expects any bumping uglies afterwards, that's just tough shit. It's not happening.

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