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girlandherDaddy -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 5:59:47 PM)
so fyou have her post on her profile that she is under consideration but you want to wait to have a face to face to see if she is real.... mind boggling. Oh, and i'm only about ten percent bullshit. She was not being rude, just honest. Have you ever watched a movie and a woman get's hysterical and totally out of control, then bam, a slap across the face to say snap out of it..... Ditto. Being rude would be telling you to go fuck a duck ( i apologize to any duck lovers), if you didn't want anyones opinions then why did you bother to ask? If you have to go into the kiddy pool with floaties on then please stay out of the deep end.

BitYakin -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 6:05:16 PM)
see here come the assumptions again you ASSUME that's my ONLY concern here, its NOT, but it is the ONLY ISSUE I was curious to hear what OTHER PEOPLE thought its like I tell a story about a robbery and ask a question about a SPECIFIC aspect of that robbery and you ASSUME that I am OK with everything else that happened in the robbery, but somehow because I asked about a PARTICULAR part of the robbery thats the ONLY thing that happened I am interested in or concerned with... don't get so HUNG UP in the surrounding DETAILS!

LadyPact -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 6:05:39 PM)
Considering I just wrote this thread http://www.collarchat.com/m_4444526/tm.htm a week ago, and the premise about it was about CYA if it became necessary, I think it's safe to say that I would under certain circumstances. Not necessarily random dude on the internet. (Yes, I say both chick and dude under certain circumstances, so we'll skip debating whether it's rude or not.) If I needed them to show threats made or a person giving an incorrect account of time that transpired, that's kind of the point of keeping them. To the other poster's comment about how they are intellectual property of the sender, that's not necessarily the case. Depending on the situation, they are the intellectual property of both unless they are considered the property of the message system used.

ToyOfRhamnusia -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 6:07:56 PM)
The stuff about "who is real" is a consequence of your not knowing what you SHOULD know before you even think about asking your question. You have been asking the WRONG question. A question that is irrelevant until you know what reality is. At this stage, reality is that SoftnMellow54 is right, and there is nothing else for a decent person to do here than doing what she suggested. If you want your ducks to move, then get them in order first - unless you just want to see them scattered. As you did.

BitYakin -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 6:18:53 PM)
OK OK I get it, I am then NEW GUY and many people know one another here and I stepped on some toes soo I get called names and be treated like a LIL KID etc etc etc as for why did I ask if I didn't want opinions, I wanted opinions about one thing and so many people felt it was nessicary to give their OPINION about every single thing BUT the thing I asked about who is real and who isn't real what on who's profile what not on MY profile etc etc etc ad nauseum SORRY I intruded into you people's realm, you put me in my place pat yourselves on the back and I'll just crawl my childish whimpy new guy ass outta here! and I'll be sure to never speak here again! HAPPY NOW? feel free to call me a pussy and a whimp for slinking away with my tail between my legs! you people sure know how to make a person feel WELCOME!

DarkSteven -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 6:24:08 PM)
1. Calm down. 2. To answer your basic question, she could be a bit at fault for saying private things in the emails, but IMO it is a huge breach of Internet etiquette to disclose emails without permission. 3. Something stinks in the whole scenario. I wonder if the guy is hoping to get something going with her and is trying to chase you off so he has a clear field with her. 4. Like I said, something doesn't feel right about the whole thing. That said, you're only looking at a face to face meeting with her. As long as she's close by so the drive isn't a big inconvenience, go ahead and meet her. 5. A plumber, huh? I wish I had had you here a few weeks ago...

TheHeretic -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 6:27:32 PM)
FR Okeley-dokely then. BitYakin, welcome to the internet, and our little forums. Most people figure this kind of stuff out on the 7th grade playgrounds, but better late than never. You are off on a great adventure. Have fun! [8\|]

BitYakin -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 6:33:48 PM)
yeah yeah yeah, and I know you'll think this is BS, but I have been on-line longer tha AOL.. tell me do you know what IRC is? I was running chatrooms in IRC on three nets back when if you didn't know UNIX you'd have a hard time getting around! but GO AHEAD and ASSUME I am the NET ROOKIE here!

ChatteParfaitt -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 6:35:22 PM)
Alrighty. Sorry you didn't get the response you wanted. That's been known to happen on an open forum. As for you and this girl, the two of you are made for each other. Enjoy !

BitYakin -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 6:39:02 PM)
DS yes if all these people KNEW all the details they would know that your #3 thing is 100% on the money that EXACTLY what he was trying to do, he tried everything he could think of to get me to STOP talking to her so she MIGHT go back to HIM the dude even, get this, offered to TRAIN HER FOR ME so when we meet she wold be READY FOR ME! wanted to know if we could SHARE HER blah blah blah, but none of all that was relavant to what I was wanting an opinion on, which was strictly regarding the sharing of PRIVAYE MAILS

littlewonder -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 6:39:47 PM)
Dude I was around the net before IRC even existed. Remember Prodigy? By the way you write and the way you act, I would say you don't have a single clue about much of anything. Have you thought about seeing someone for that shitload of issues you have???? Anyway, have a nice life and hope your meet is all you dreamed it is in your head.

AthenaSurrenders -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 6:40:13 PM)
Yes I'd consider it a bit skeevy if someone was sharing private messages around without permission from the other party. All this really tells you in this situation is not to get involved with that other guy, which was never an option anyway. Just to play devil's advocate - you have many mentions in your profile and journals that you hate people who are fakes or timewasters. It's possible this guy is trying to help you out by sharing his experience with her. Don't get drawn into it. Stick with 'Thank you, I'll draw my own conclusions' and make your decision once you've been met. Whoever is wrong or right here, the nice thing about internet drama is that it can almost always be avoided completely by just not playing along. quote: ORIGINAL: BitYakin SORRY I intruded into you people's realm, you put me in my place pat yourselves on the back and I'll just crawl my childish whimpy new guy ass outta here! and I'll be sure to never speak here again! HAPPY NOW? feel free to call me a pussy and a whimp for slinking away with my tail between my legs! you people sure know how to make a person feel WELCOME! Actually we call it 'flouncing'.

BitYakin -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 6:40:43 PM)
yes yes and THANKS for the backhanded INSULT! but NOOO you all aren't MEAN AT ALLLL! yeah I am the CHILDISH ON HERE!

girlandherDaddy -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 6:47:46 PM)
BitYakin thinking to himself... "I must have the last word", "I must have the last word"

AthenaSurrenders -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 6:48:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BitYakin DS yes if all these people KNEW all the details they would know that your #3 thing is 100% on the money that EXACTLY what he was trying to do, he tried everything he could think of to get me to STOP talking to her so she MIGHT go back to HIM the dude even, get this, offered to TRAIN HER FOR ME so when we meet she wold be READY FOR ME! wanted to know if we could SHARE HER blah blah blah, but none of all that was relavant to what I was wanting an opinion on, which was strictly regarding the sharing of PRIVAYE MAILS While I understand that you only wanted to talk about how rude it is to share private mail, it's natural that people would want to discuss the circumstances and background info. The question 'Don't you think it's rude to share private mails?' is pretty much a dead-end for a conversation if we stick strictly to what is asked. I'm sure with your experience you understand the natural flow of conversations on message boards - were you really just hoping for two or three posts saying 'yes, you are right'? I do actually think on this occasion a few of the posts could be seen as harsh or critical, but I think if you look back on some of YOUR posts once you are calm you might also see why you are coming across as childish. Again, since you have considerable experience with internet chat I know you will understand how certain types of responses make you come across and they way that calling people mean or getting worked up usually only fires these conversations up.

BitYakin -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 6:50:51 PM)
NO you were NOT on the internet BEFORE IRC existed, prodigy was just a CLOSED NET! like quantum link and AOL IRC was ALWAYS he CORE of the internet and what its PURPOSE was originally, so gov't people could communicate when normal communications were down! just because you never HEARD of IRC when you were on PRODIGY doesn't mean it didn't EXIST

littlewonder -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 6:52:49 PM)
I was on IRC when there were two chat rooms to choose from and Prodigy was not just a closed network. But nice try. Again, good luck to ya. Please come back and let us know how it went.

BitYakin -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 7:01:03 PM)
yes yes I know conversations EVOLVE, but it didn't, the first couple of responders wanted to FOCUS on the surrounding details and ignore the actual question if they had said ok here is an answer to your question, but please tell me more about the situation welll that would have been differant and yeahh I got a bit frusterated with it! they call me childish but the taunting and crap is at least as childish as anything I did it all started getting out of hand early on, when the 1st couple of people INSISTED on saying SCREW YOUR QUESTION who is real and who isn't REAL is the ISSUE here go back and read the 1st few posts right away it was your question is irrelavant because of BLAH BLAH BLAH and when I tried to point out that the BLAH BLAH BLAH was irrelevant to the question the INSULTS started coming and I am not the type to BACK DOWN, maybe in an ally from a guy with a shotgun bt not from people on-line I am happy to trade barbs with anyone here

AthenaSurrenders -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 7:10:54 PM)
Why trade barbs though? What's the point? What will be achieved by having the last word? Once again, you know all about the internet, so you know that people will respond to what seems most interesting about your post. Shame this one didn't go as you hoped - though some people did directly address your question. I think you are confusing 'backing down' with 'walking away'. It's possible to walk away from a disagreement without conceding that the other person is right. In fact, when I see threads like this I generally consider the real winner to be whoever was the bigger person - who had the grace to not stoop to the level of insults and pointless arguments. It's not cowardly, it's classy. The entire basis of this argument is who is being more childish. There's not even a significant point being debated. Kind of like a playground argument, the longer it goes on, the more it hurts your case.

Rasciallymisty -> RE: TRUST (5/22/2013 7:24:49 PM)
BitYakin.... you are quite the debator aren't you? No matter what anyone says you still have a problem with it even when they are agreeing with you. Please tell us what you want us to say so we can say it and you will then be happy....okay then again maybe not.

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