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ORIGINAL: switchdavid69
They had to sign the bill so they could find out what was in the bill. Now they know.

• A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
  
• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
  

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Iowa Medicaid Expansion Gets Boost As GOP Governor Drops Opposition: Report




Florida Governor's Embrace of Medicaid Money Undercuts GOP Attacks on 'Obamacare'



John Kasich Accepts Obamacare�s Medicaid Expansion



Gov Brewer Says Yes to Expanding Medicaid



Chris Christie Joins Growing Number Of GOP Governors Accepting Obamacare�s Medicaid Expansion


Pennsylvania Republicans Pressure Their Governor To Accept Obamacare�s Medicaid Expansion



GOP governors make peace with Obamacare


"In Florida, the dwindling band of tea-partiers was furious with Scott, calling him a Benedict Arnold. But the cause he supposedly betrayed has already lost.

After following the tea party agenda over the last two years, Scott has the support of just one in three Floridians. Now he’s acting like a competent executive. He said he would evaluate the expansion over time and decide whether changes should be made. That’s a great idea. It’s too bad the law’s opponents wasted three years hollering about socialism and tyranny.

Scott argued that the Supreme Court and the 2012 election made Obamacare inescapable, but he also made a personal appeal for the expansion. The recent death of his mother gave him “a new perspective,” he said. “I thought about my mom’s struggles raising five children with very little money. I remember my mom’s heartbreak when she struggled to find health care for my brother. I don’t want any parent to worry like my mom did.”

“My top priority continues to be to make Florida the global leader for job creation,” the tea party traitor said. “But we also have to be sensitive to the needs of the poorest and the weakest among us who struggle to access affordable, high-quality health care.”

Obama couldn’t have said it better himself."




Gov. Snyder (R) calls for Medicaid expansion to improve health, save money; Greater access to care, lower business costs among benefits


GOP Governors Caving In On ObamaCare




Brian Sandoval, Nevada Governor, Is First Republican To Back Obamacare Medicaid Expansion



Kentucky governor announces Medicaid expansion under Obamacare



Another Republican Accepts Obamacare: North Dakota Governor Cites Obamacare Will Help the Poor

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

"In Florida, the dwindling band of tea-partiers was furious with Scott, calling him a Benedict Arnold. But the cause he supposedly betrayed has already lost.

While I can understand your need to drag the right into any conversation so you can bash them, this thread is about the union and their fears regarding Obamacare. Do try to keep up.

Personally I think anything that makes the union scared is a good thing. With the new laws in place maybe more people will drop them.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

lol.. so sayeth the man smart enough to become addicted to cocaine.

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David John Marotta, Forbes Magazine
What is Rent Seeking Behavior?

Voluntary trade benefits both sides. Unless both parties believe they will benefit from the exchange, they will not consent.

In most exchanges both parties can produce the item they are trading more efficiently than they can produce what they are receiving. Producing a surplus of one item provides each party something to trade for someone else’s surplus. Having more than your family needs opens the opportunity to trade the excess for profit.

Unfortunately, when property rights are weakened and the ownership of someone’s wealth or goods is debatable, people can gain more by trying to appropriate that wealth than by producing themselves. This behavior is called rent-seeking.

Rent-seeking frequently requires spending your own resources so you own someone else’s surplus in the end. In the public sector, for example, government lobbyists are hired to sway public policy to benefit their companies and punish their competitors. Although hiring lobbyists clearly benefits the company they represent, the work of lobbyists does not add value to the larger marketplace. If property rights on the surplus the company seeks had been more stable, such roles for lobbyists would never have been created.

Rent-seeking doesn’t add any national value. It is coerced trade and benefits only one side. Rent-seeking can include piracy, lobbying the government or even just giving away money.

Imagine a thriving sea trade in which ships carrying cargo receive a 20% profit on the value of the goods. Now imagine the first pirate who arms his boat with cannons and rent-seeks the profit. The pirates are not producing any value of their own but are spending their own resources to capture the surplus of the shipping trade.

If the pirate ship captures just one in every hundred ships, the average profit for the traders will drop to 19%. Meanwhile the pirate ship is seizing a 100% profit. There is incentive to join the rent-seeking pirate trade. By the time 10 pirates are competing for plunder, the profit of honest merchants has dropped to just 10%. At 20 pirates, there would be no profit remaining and no incentive to engage in the shipping trade.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Naaa.. Im diabetic.. koolaid is forbidden on my diet. But I see you swallowing up my share. Thank you!

And, yeah, its true.

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ORIGINAL: LizDeluxe

You're correct. Carlin leaned to the left and hated the right. He was funny in his younger years but politically he was full of shit.

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Personally I think anything that makes the union scared is a good thing.

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Wouldn't it be more constructive to find a better thing to fight for, rather than insist on being allowed to continue a fight already won?

Full benefits for part timers.

32 hour week.

24 hour week and two jobs.

College tuition.

There is always something else that needs doing. Unions are a powerful way for working people to help define their society. Unions should look forward and attempt to remain relevant.

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ORIGINAL: LizDeluxe

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

lol.. so sayeth the man smart enough to become addicted to cocaine.

You're correct. Carlin leaned to the left and hated the right. He was funny in his younger years but politically he was full of shit.

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ORIGINAL: LizDeluxe

You're correct. Carlin leaned to the left and hated the right. He was funny in his younger years but politically he was full of shit.

I think you're correct that he leaned left but I do recall him once saying "Fuck the poor" which I view as a contradiction.