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How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family.


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  17% (3)
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forget the chances, nail the bastard.
  82% (14)


Total Votes : 17
(last vote on : 6/3/2013 3:13:35 PM)
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jlf1961 -> How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family. (5/24/2013 10:29:15 PM)

Funny thing you learn when you talk to various law enforcement agencies. They will tell you what can be used as evidence in all sorts of things.

A tenant who is being evicted is threatening to cause problems for my family. He was a friend, was being the key word.

Now you can threaten me all you want, but go after my family, and I become worse than a pit bull with rabies and a bad attitude.

I have given this person a number of chances to back off.

My question is, when do you stop giving someone an opportunity to quit his/her bullshit before you nail his/her ass to the way.

One more thing, his "evidence" would not be used by any law enforcement agency since they are digital photos.

Last note, funny thing about Texas, sometimes threats against pets have a worse penalty than threats of violence against people.




SoulAlloy -> RE: How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family. (5/25/2013 2:29:29 AM)

Depends on your definition of nailing the bastard, and what his actions would achieve - as far as I could read he has nothing to back his threats up with?




Just0Plain0Mike -> RE: How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family. (5/25/2013 3:38:17 AM)

I say nail the bastard. You screw with a man's family, you deserve what you get.




jlf1961 -> RE: How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family. (5/25/2013 4:17:11 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SoulAlloy

Depends on your definition of nailing the bastard, and what his actions would achieve - as far as I could read he has nothing to back his threats up with?



No, he doesnt.

He pushed too hard tonight, so I called sheriff's department to get a call on record. He rubbed the senior deputy the wrong way.

He presented his "evidence" to get my niece arrested and my great nephew removed from the home, and got laughed at.

Texas has a strange thing about pot. Yes, they have to investigate, but there is a major problem with a other harder drugs.

Unofficial advice I got tonight.

Keep anything he might call law enforcement out of the house until he is gone.
Tell niece to get clean out to flush her system on the off hand chance he calls cps. They only do a urine test here.
Finally, the threats he has made constitute tenant harassment of a landlord, as well as blackmail, so contact DA about blackmail, update the eviction record with the harassment, and list his name with the local landlord's association as being a troublesome tenant.

Thirty days may end up being thirty hours, with a stint in county lock up.




ShaharThorne -> RE: How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family. (5/25/2013 6:13:28 AM)

Nail the bastard...family is family, including the crazy ones.

I prefer buck shot in my 4-10...




littlewonder -> RE: How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family. (5/25/2013 7:30:31 AM)

I would just tell them to go ahead...take their worst shot. And then ignore them after that. The more attention you pay, the more willing they are to continue with their threats. Ignore it and most of the time, they just go away.

If they decided to go through with it, it would depend on what they are threatening. Pictures of what? Who is in the pics, etc...? If it was just pictures I would probably just laugh and find them to be funny pictures. I can't imagine anyone in my family caring all that much either. Most of them are like me when it comes to threats....laugh, roll their eyes and tell them to go fuck off and never speak to them again.

ETA: Pictures of a family smoking pot?? Cops would laugh it off. He can't prove it's pot. For all anyone knows it's a rolled cigarette or herbs of some kind, etc....a picture means absolutely nothing. There's no proof. So like I said, laugh it off and ignore.




jlf1961 -> RE: How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family. (5/25/2013 7:33:13 AM)

The call that I made to 911 was because he has threatened my dogs, while technically not a violation of the law...

There is now a record at the sheriff's department on him and threats of violence.

For the record, the first time I read Sun Tzu's The art of war, I was 13, and I have read it on average every couple of years since.

Two things apply here:

Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate.
Sun Tzu

The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Sun Tzu

I needed to get a record of a call for assistance. He has a really bad temper.

And I have been playing my game with him for some time, ever since he made the first veiled threat against my Niece and Nephew.

Oh, I have also read "The Prince" quite often.




lmpishlilhellcat -> RE: How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family. (5/25/2013 7:53:25 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961


quote:

ORIGINAL: SoulAlloy

Depends on your definition of nailing the bastard, and what his actions would achieve - as far as I could read he has nothing to back his threats up with?



No, he doesnt.

He pushed too hard tonight, so I called sheriff's department to get a call on record. He rubbed the senior deputy the wrong way.

He presented his "evidence" to get my niece arrested and my great nephew removed from the home, and got laughed at.

Texas has a strange thing about pot. Yes, they have to investigate, but there is a major problem with a other harder drugs.

Unofficial advice I got tonight.

Keep anything he might call law enforcement out of the house until he is gone.
Tell niece to get clean out to flush her system on the off hand chance he calls cps. They only do a urine test here.
Finally, the threats he has made constitute tenant harassment of a landlord, as well as blackmail, so contact DA about blackmail, update the eviction record with the harassment, and list his name with the local landlord's association as being a troublesome tenant.

Thirty days may end up being thirty hours, with a stint in county lock up.



I don't know what kind of THC law you have there. In some states you can't charge for the metabolite THC-COOH. It's really hard to see THC in urine. Most labs can't because of the instrumentation they use. You can typically only see the metabolite. However, if they only test urine, it is probable that they have the correct instrumentation to see it.

I'm of the attitude you want to threaten me, yeah yeah fine. When you start threatening my husband, dogs, etc.. then I start to get a little prickly. Not that my husband couldn't more than protect himself, but still it irks me.




jlf1961 -> RE: How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family. (5/25/2013 10:43:07 AM)

Update:

"I have a clean criminal record, and this is getting out of hand. If I leave today will some of my stuff be okay until I get a truck to pick it up Monday?"

He has made it clear, no more threats, no more shit, he is getting out.




bamabbwsub -> RE: How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family. (5/25/2013 10:52:12 AM)

Then I hope you are the better man and will not do anything -- or allow anything to happen -- to his belongings. That would be stooping to his level of juvenile behavior.

I imagine he was just blowing smoke, trying to be a big man. Stupid to involve family, but he probably knew they were your weakness so that's what he used to try to intimidate you. Hopefully he has learned a lesson, and I hope the issue is resolved without further incident.




jlf1961 -> RE: How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family. (5/25/2013 11:32:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: bamabbwsub

Then I hope you are the better man and will not do anything -- or allow anything to happen -- to his belongings. That would be stooping to his level of juvenile behavior.

I imagine he was just blowing smoke, trying to be a big man. Stupid to involve family, but he probably knew they were your weakness so that's what he used to try to intimidate you. Hopefully he has learned a lesson, and I hope the issue is resolved without further incident.


Nothing will happen to his property.

I am still debating about his "clean" criminal record and his ability to rent a decent apartment however.




LadyPact -> RE: How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family. (5/25/2013 11:45:05 AM)

Glad it's resolved on some level. Yeah, I agree with the others. Anybody who tries to threaten a person's family or cause trouble for them is kind of a chicken shit. Good riddance to bad rubbish.




Hillwilliam -> RE: How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family. (5/25/2013 2:12:19 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

For the record, the first time I read Sun Tzu's The art of war, I was 13, and I have read it on average every couple of years since.

Two things apply here:

Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate.
Sun Tzu


Interesting that you chose that one.  It's in my journal on the other side from last year.  It's one of my favorite as well.




ResidentSadist -> RE: How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family. (5/25/2013 2:43:46 PM)

I guess it depends if there are threats of injury. If so, they don't get chances to back off . . . they get to disappear*.


* Knock their ass out, drag'em to the bathroom and shoot them quietly through a plastic bottle in the bath tub. Then wrap them up, dig a hole and toss in a bag of lye flakes.




NuevaVida -> RE: How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family. (5/26/2013 11:38:21 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I would just tell them to go ahead...take their worst shot. And then ignore them after that. The more attention you pay, the more willing they are to continue with their threats. Ignore it and most of the time, they just go away.

If they decided to go through with it, it would depend on what they are threatening. Pictures of what? Who is in the pics, etc...? If it was just pictures I would probably just laugh and find them to be funny pictures. I can't imagine anyone in my family caring all that much either. Most of them are like me when it comes to threats....laugh, roll their eyes and tell them to go fuck off and never speak to them again.

ETA: Pictures of a family smoking pot?? Cops would laugh it off. He can't prove it's pot. For all anyone knows it's a rolled cigarette or herbs of some kind, etc....a picture means absolutely nothing. There's no proof. So like I said, laugh it off and ignore.



This.

Ex husband was full of threats. When I finally just ignored them and cut him off from all communication with me, he slinked away. It's the attention and drama that feeds people like that. Stop feeding them, and they disappear.




MasterCaneman -> RE: How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family. (5/26/2013 12:17:56 PM)

Prussic acid. It deteriorates in about twenty minutes and essentially causes a heart attack. The pop bottle trick works, but it's hard to aim properly, and let's face it, ammunition is getting scarce and costly nowadays.




RomanticRebel -> RE: How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family. (5/26/2013 3:16:10 PM)

Hmmm. My personal sensibilities are usually non-violent, but family is where I cross the line. I will only say that I admire your restraint... and that pigs make wonderful "garbage disposals".




Kana -> RE: How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family. (5/26/2013 3:18:14 PM)

I'm friends with a bunch of LE, and have more in the immediate fam, so yeah, I'd tell them to pound sand-then have some of my boyos pay em a visit




jlf1961 -> RE: How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family. (5/26/2013 5:30:39 PM)

Actually, I have been advised by an attorney I talked to, (My attorney has a title- district attorney) to file blackmail charges.




littlewonder -> RE: How many chances do you give someone to drop the threats to cause problems for your family. (5/26/2013 9:15:44 PM)

If he's leaving, why bother?




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