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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
Then Holder went before Congress, under oath, and said that he had never ordered the prosecution of a reporter.
See here: http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/24/did-eric-holder-lie-in-congressional-testimony-last-week/

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

Eric Holder plays "fast-n-loose" with the rules? No way!

Unfortunately, as is the case with this administration in general (authorization to kill American citizens with drones requested) and this AG, in particular, there's no news here. It's "dog bites man".

There probably hasn't been a "transparent" administration since Madison or so.

There's far too much power given to the federal government and we can blame Lincoln and the War of Northern Aggression for that; in large part, that's where federalization started).

By contrast, Obummer's promise to be a "transparent" presidency is nothing more but yet another broken promise. That's an occupational hazard for these scumbags we keep electing. I never gave that one any credence to begin with.

Now to the meat of it:

I think Holder and this administration have done irrevocable damage to our way of life, as guaranteed by our constitution but I also believe that they're just building on the excesses of that piece of shit document known as the Patriot Act that King George II inflicted on us.

Welcome to the New World Order



Peace and comfort,



Michael

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Lincoln's was a war of defense against southern secession.

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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Lincoln's was a war of defense against southern secession.

DAYAM!!!! That like saying one is defending oneself by shooting club members who just want to leave.

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

So as has been in the news, DOJ went after Rosen for doing what reporters are supposed to do: namely, solicit sources and report news.

The DOJ got a search warrant signed by HOLDER to get Rosen's emails.
They then asked the search warrants be sealed.
Two judges ruled that no, the accused had to be notified.
This was appealed. In the affidavit for the appeal, the DOJ said that it was necessary to seal the records in order to facilitate the investigation of "the bombings".

Read here: (and check exhibit "B") http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/05/how-justice-fought-to-keep-rosens-warrant-secret.html

Then Holder went before Congress, under oath, and said that he had never ordered the prosecution of a reporter.
See here: http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/24/did-eric-holder-lie-in-congressional-testimony-last-week/

So.

The Obama administration gets a secret warrant to investigate its enemies - keeping that warrant open for 2 years without notifying the accused.
The administration said that Rosen was a flight risk as part of the reason to not notify. Really. A flight risk.

What the government really wanted - was unlimited carte blanche to spy on its opponents and monitor their actions. Imagine if Rosen had done something illegal or immoral, or embarassing. What do you think the administration would have done.

As far as I'm concerned this is the last straw. This administration is unethical, illegal and immoral. The most transparent admiistration in history my ass.
House has got to be cleaned. Holder should be removed from office, disbarred and go to jail. Lerner should be fired and have a civil lawsuit for violating the civil rights of the people she selectively enforced against.

And thats just the start.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

It troubles me that the word, "chilling," gets used so often in the revelation that a journalist was so targeted and described in secret warrants.

It should be described as a blood-boiling outrage, and a call to arms (metaphorically) for all who believe in the vital role of a free press in a free society.

We may only be seeing the tip of the iceberg, in how this administration has abused the powers entrusted to them.

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

Eric Holder plays "fast-n-loose" with the rules? No way!

Unfortunately, as is the case with this administration in general (authorization to kill American citizens with drones requested) and this AG, in particular, there's no news here. It's "dog bites man".

There probably hasn't been a "transparent" administration since Madison or so.

There's far too much power given to the federal government and we can blame Lincoln and the War of Northern Aggression for that; in large part, that's where federalization started).

By contrast, Obummer's promise to be a "transparent" presidency is nothing more but yet another broken promise. That's an occupational hazard for these scumbags we keep electing. I never gave that one any credence to begin with.

Now to the meat of it:

I think Holder and this administration have done irrevocable damage to our way of life, as guaranteed by our constitution but I also believe that they're just building on the excesses of that piece of shit document known as the Patriot Act that King George II inflicted on us.

Welcome to the New World Order



Peace and comfort,



Michael

Well this is America's first real experience in cleaning up after 8 years of that sad and destructive aberration called the Bush admin., the most incompetent, arrogant, felonious admin. and with clear violations of law, that we've ever had to suffer in this country.

It was Bush that could have been impeached on several counts and whose role model was Nixon, he just had bigger and much more expensive ambitions. He still ended up with having to commute the sentence of a fellow repub lamb. Most repub pres. just go ahead and pardon their fellow felons.

Federalization is a very neat word isn't it ? Just how does the federal govt. enforce the laws of the land if not by 'federalization.' How does one defend federal property and people in the south at the time ? Lincoln's was a war of defense against southern secession.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

It troubles me that the word, "chilling," gets used so often in the revelation that a journalist was so targeted and described in secret warrants.

It should be described as a blood-boiling outrage, and a call to arms (metaphorically) for all who believe in the vital role of a free press in a free society.

We may only be seeing the tip of the iceberg, in how this administration has abused the powers entrusted to them.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
Then Holder went before Congress, under oath, and said that he had never ordered the prosecution of a reporter.
See here: http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/24/did-eric-holder-lie-in-congressional-testimony-last-week/

Rosen has not been indicted much less prosecuted so your premise that Holder lied is false.

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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Lincoln's was a war of defense against southern secession.

DAYAM!!!! That like saying one is defending oneself by shooting club members who just want to leave.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

Eric Holder plays "fast-n-loose" with the rules? No way!

Unfortunately, as is the case with this administration in general (authorization to kill American citizens with drones requested) and this AG, in particular, there's no news here. It's "dog bites man".

There probably hasn't been a "transparent" administration since Madison or so.

There's far too much power given to the federal government and we can blame Lincoln and the War of Northern Aggression for that; in large part, that's where federalization started).

By contrast, Obummer's promise to be a "transparent" presidency is nothing more but yet another broken promise. That's an occupational hazard for these scumbags we keep electing. I never gave that one any credence to begin with.

Now to the meat of it:

I think Holder and this administration have done irrevocable damage to our way of life, as guaranteed by our constitution but I also believe that they're just building on the excesses of that piece of shit document known as the Patriot Act that King George II inflicted on us.

Welcome to the New World Order



Peace and comfort,



Michael

Well this is America's first real experience in cleaning up after 8 years of that sad and destructive aberration called the Bush admin., the most incompetent, arrogant, felonious admin. and with clear violations of law, that we've ever had to suffer in this country.

It was Bush that could have been impeached on several counts and whose role model was Nixon, he just had bigger and much more expensive ambitions. He still ended up with having to commute the sentence of a fellow repub lamb. Most repub pres. just go ahead and pardon their fellow felons.

Federalization is a very neat word isn't it ? Just how does the federal govt. enforce the laws of the land if not by 'federalization.' How does one defend federal property and people in the south at the time ? Lincoln's was a war of defense against southern secession.

I expect that authorizing to kill americans with drones is not a good idea considering the can of worms that could open up should the people get major pissed about it since kids are making them as hobbyists. http://diydrones.com/

I would not fall for bushes dumb act, or incompetence somehow grants these guys a pardon for breach of trust and fiduciary duties they were sworn to maintain and uphold.

The real problem here is that this is a puppet government and they sort of forgot to disclose that little factoid. After all if they did people would probly do something about it. Better to play the dumb ass role as long as everyone suckers for it.

Nope lincoln was the first puppet prez. slave to the bonds that came due and no money to pay them. The viable and prosperous south wanting to pull out from the federal bankrupters. The estates that were originally a league of friendship now have full membership in the heartbreak hotel.

Cut to the chase, the south was a land grab to get another loan on the debt.