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Truth or manners


Insult the meal saying it wasn't as good as you had hoped
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Lie and say 'It was good, thank you'
  27% (13)
Just say 'thank you'
  66% (32)
In Chef Ramsay style, toss the plate on the floor while screaming
  6% (3)


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RE: Truth or manners - 6/1/2013 11:43:51 AM   
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Yeah, I figured it was pretty common courtesy to just say thank you at the very least.
I paid for, cooked and baked after working and while taking care of kids, and cleaned up afterwards. No 'thank you' just 'It's a little watery" and the cake wasn't "as chocolaty as I was hoping". Are you serious? Was it the best I ever made? No. Have I ever claimed to be a master chef? No. I was a little peeved to say the least.
End. Of. Rant.


Obviously their behavior was rude and thoughtless.  There is some ambiguity
as to who exhibited this boorish lack of manners.  Was it the kids or was it the
kids and adults, after the adults returned? 

If it was the children, I would instruct them as a part of "taking care" of them.
If the adults were present I would bring up fact that it was an exhibition of bad
manners and emphasizing that the children should have a better example.  Unless
of course you were being paid to watch the kids in which case I can understand
the situation tempering your reaction. 




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RE: Truth or manners - 6/1/2013 11:53:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		outlier brought up a kid's reaction as part of this, which made me think of a situation with the Mister's daughter. She's vegan, and a teen, and so whenever I'd cook for them, I'd make a separate vegan version for her. Once I made her a vegan lasagna, that was, in all honesty, one of the most horrible dishes I've tasted.

She was so sweet...she took a few bites, then looked troubled, as if she didn't know how to tell me she couldn't possibly eat it. I looked at her, took my first taste of it, and said "Oh good LORD child, you can't possibly eat this crap." She laughed and looked very relieved! She said she didn't have the heart to tell me, because usually my food is really good. I told her from then on, she can absolutely tell me if she doesn't like something I've made, and can't eat it...because a lot of my vegan cooking was experimental for me, and I don't want to keep making something that everyone hates.

But I'll never forget that look on her face after her first bite. And I'll never forget how disgusting that lasagna was lol.

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RE: Truth or manners - 6/1/2013 11:54:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		First off, ketchup on pasta? Ewwww!
That reminds me of a time I went with a group to a 5-star steak house and one of the people asked for steak sauce. I was so embarrassed. Of course, the chef comes out. There's just certain things you don't do. One of them is ask for steak sauce in a nice restaurant, the other is put ketchup on pasta!

I agree with all of you when I say if I had asked their opinion, I would definitely want an honest one. Especially if it were a helpful suggestion.

Usually, I'm complimented highly on my cooking. From being told by neighborhood kids that my spaghetti is the best they've ever had to someone asking if I grew up in Mexico due to my Mexican cooking.
It will probably be a while till I cook for this person, but next time I'll be sure to try to wow.

(Note to self: never buy Aries a gift. I have enough anxiety over finding the perfect present for someone)

ETA: It was an adult. Sorry, I was taking care of my kids while cooking - sometimes it's hard to concentrate. I find it funny because often times I'm expecting adults to have better manners but see their children have better manners than their parents. NV, that was a cute story. Poor kid. She probably would have starved before saying anything.

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RE: Truth or manners - 6/1/2013 3:33:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: theshytype

Someone cooks dinner and bakes a cake for you. While not the best, it's edible and you've had MUCH worse. Which of the options best describes your response, and would your response differ depending on the person?


While it may not be the best meal, someone made that meal for you. I would consider it an act of love, or appreciation, or whatever word you want to use to describe it. I would be gracious and grateful that someone cared for me enough to make an effort.



My husband is always very polite even if he doesn't like something. So, when I try something new I ask, "Is this something I should make again?" If he says yeah let's make this again, I know it's good. If he says eh it's okay, but I wouldn't eat it all the time, I know it's not a dish to do again.

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RE: Truth or manners - 6/1/2013 3:59:44 PM   
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First off, ketchup on pasta? Ewwww!
That reminds me of a time I went with a group to a 5-star steak house and one of the people asked for steak sauce. I was so embarrassed. Of course, the chef comes out. There's just certain things you don't do. One of them is ask for steak sauce in a nice restaurant, the other is put ketchup on pasta!

I agree with all of you when I say if I had asked their opinion, I would definitely want an honest one. Especially if it were a helpful suggestion.

Usually, I'm complimented highly on my cooking. From being told by neighborhood kids that my spaghetti is the best they've ever had to someone asking if I grew up in Mexico due to my Mexican cooking.
It will probably be a while till I cook for this person, but next time I'll be sure to try to wow.

(Note to self: never buy Aries a gift. I have enough anxiety over finding the perfect present for someone)

ETA: It was an adult. Sorry, I was taking care of my kids while cooking - sometimes it's hard to concentrate. I find it funny because often times I'm expecting adults to have better manners but see their children have better manners than their parents. NV, that was a cute story. Poor kid. She probably would have starved before saying anything.


I would have died. But I'm not sure there are a whole lot of people, nowadays, that are taught things like that.


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RE: Truth or manners - 6/1/2013 4:06:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would have responded with, "Well, I wanted to test how good your manners are, and you just received a big fat FAIL."

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RE: Truth or manners - 6/1/2013 4:46:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can always tell when Master doesn't like something I made (which is rare according to him. He likes my cooking). I will usually look at him and ask him what's wrong with it and he tells me but then he usually says "How often do you make something I don't like? I love the love and time that you put in to cooking for me". aaawww

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RE: Truth or manners - 6/1/2013 5:22:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		As another poster suggested, I'd find something about the food to praise and mostly applaud the effort. I have had some bad food prepared for me by others, each time I am genuinely grateful that they did it for me.

One of the nicest efforts I remember was coming home with a 5 & 6 year old after a hellish day running errands and getting groceries and my teenager was taking a frozen pizza out of the oven for our dinner saying "Well, I knew we'd all have to eat so I made dinner." Wow. Best meal I ever had. Somehow that pizza was both burnt and raw, but I was so touched by the fact that he thought ahead and took charge that I didn't care what it tasted like.

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RE: Truth or manners - 6/1/2013 6:07:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		lizi that is so sweet, and I can see why that was the best dinner ever.

lw, the Mister is very much the same. I remember the first time I cooked a full dinner for him, he took a bite, stopped for a moment, and dropped his fork. I thought, "Huh???" and was worried he hated it. He looked at me and said, "I think this is the best thing I've ever tasted." He often tells me I outdo any restaurant. Once I made a stir fry for him and the girlchild and he turned to her and said, "Do you think you can get anything this good at your favorite Chinese place?" She said "No, not only is this awesome, but it was made with love."

Made my heart melt.

Later she came home with a wooden spoon, heart shaped. She said "Now I can cook with love, too."

I miss that girl. I hope she comes back from her "adventure" soon.

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RE: Truth or manners - 6/1/2013 6:10:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I said "lie"; but if it was someone I was comfortable with, I might tease them a little, it just depends.

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RE: Truth or manners - 6/1/2013 6:23:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Regarding ketchup on pasta, I have one worse.

I host Latin American minor league ballplayers every summer. Some of them put mayo on pasta.

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RE: Truth or manners - 6/1/2013 6:41:48 PM   
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RE: Truth or manners - 6/1/2013 6:43:08 PM   
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Regarding ketchup on pasta, I have one worse.

I host Latin American minor league ballplayers every summer. Some of them put mayo on pasta.


You are right. That turned my stomach. lol

In response to the OP, I don't cook so I genuinely appreciate whatever is the result from somebody else who puts in the effort.

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RE: Truth or manners - 6/1/2013 7:10:41 PM   
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That reminds me of a time I went with a group to a 5-star steak house and one of the people asked for steak sauce. I was so embarrassed. Of course, the chef comes out. There's just certain things you don't do. One of them is ask for steak sauce in a nice restaurant...


If you're paying for a steak anywhere, let alone a pricey 5 star restaurant, you can ask for and hopefully politely receive all the condiments you like. How arrogant and intimidating to come out and confront paying customers! But then I guess when people are willing to pay that much for a steak you could get for a fraction of the price elsewhere, snobbish and rude treatment is expected along with that price tag. I'm afraid that chef wouldn't have gotten the reaction he must've wanted if I were that customer But then, I wouldn't be paying those inflated prices to begin with.....luci

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RE: Truth or manners - 6/1/2013 7:12:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: theshytype

First off, ketchup on pasta? Ewwww!
That reminds me of a time I went with a group to a 5-star steak house and one of the people asked for steak sauce. I was so embarrassed. Of course, the chef comes out. There's just certain things you don't do. One of them is ask for steak sauce in a nice restaurant, the other is put ketchup on pasta!

I agree with all of you when I say if I had asked their opinion, I would definitely want an honest one. Especially if it were a helpful suggestion.

Usually, I'm complimented highly on my cooking. From being told by neighborhood kids that my spaghetti is the best they've ever had to someone asking if I grew up in Mexico due to my Mexican cooking.
It will probably be a while till I cook for this person, but next time I'll be sure to try to wow.

(Note to self: never buy Aries a gift. I have enough anxiety over finding the perfect present for someone)

ETA: It was an adult. Sorry, I was taking care of my kids while cooking - sometimes it's hard to concentrate. I find it funny because often times I'm expecting adults to have better manners but see their children have better manners than their parents. NV, that was a cute story. Poor kid. She probably would have starved before saying anything.


I would have died. But I'm not sure there are a whole lot of people, nowadays, that are taught things like that.


Taught what? That you should be ashamed of eating the food you're paying for the way you want it? Yeah, who in the hell would teach their children that? I would've "died" too. But not for the same reasons. I guess I value teaching a different set of values......luci

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RE: Truth or manners - 6/1/2013 7:19:41 PM   
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There's just certain things you don't do. One of them is ask for steak sauce in a nice restaurant

"And the other is go back to a restaurant where customers are treated like that" - Master

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RE: Truth or manners - 6/1/2013 7:24:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: theshytype

That reminds me of a time I went with a group to a 5-star steak house and one of the people asked for steak sauce. I was so embarrassed. Of course, the chef comes out. There's just certain things you don't do. One of them is ask for steak sauce in a nice restaurant...


If you're paying for a steak anywhere, let alone a pricey 5 star restaurant, you can ask for and hopefully politely receive all the condiments you like. How arrogant and intimidating to come out and confront paying customers! But then I guess when people are willing to pay that much for a steak you could get for a fraction of the price elsewhere, snobbish and rude treatment is expected along with that price tag. I'm afraid that chef wouldn't have gotten the reaction he must've wanted if I were that customer But then, I wouldn't be paying those inflated prices to begin with.....luci

While I am of the firm belief that a good steak can and should stand on its own, from time to time I like to have a little bit of sauce on the side to liven it up. If the chef came out in a royal snit, he can fully expect to deal with me on the same level. I'm paying for service, not to be intimidated. And I am not easily intimidated...

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RE: Truth or manners - 6/1/2013 7:29:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK


quote:

ORIGINAL: theshytype

First off, ketchup on pasta? Ewwww!
That reminds me of a time I went with a group to a 5-star steak house and one of the people asked for steak sauce. I was so embarrassed. Of course, the chef comes out. There's just certain things you don't do. One of them is ask for steak sauce in a nice restaurant, the other is put ketchup on pasta!

I agree with all of you when I say if I had asked their opinion, I would definitely want an honest one. Especially if it were a helpful suggestion.

Usually, I'm complimented highly on my cooking. From being told by neighborhood kids that my spaghetti is the best they've ever had to someone asking if I grew up in Mexico due to my Mexican cooking.
It will probably be a while till I cook for this person, but next time I'll be sure to try to wow.

(Note to self: never buy Aries a gift. I have enough anxiety over finding the perfect present for someone)

ETA: It was an adult. Sorry, I was taking care of my kids while cooking - sometimes it's hard to concentrate. I find it funny because often times I'm expecting adults to have better manners but see their children have better manners than their parents. NV, that was a cute story. Poor kid. She probably would have starved before saying anything.


I would have died. But I'm not sure there are a whole lot of people, nowadays, that are taught things like that.


Taught what? That you should be ashamed of eating the food you're paying for the way you want it? Yeah, who in the hell would teach their children that? I would've "died" too. But not for the same reasons. I guess I value teaching a different set of values......luci


Taught things like etiquette. It's one thing to go to outback and ask for A1. But at a 5star place, there's no need. The food is usually impeccably prepared. I was brought up attending cotillions and I had a "coming out" when I was 13. They teach you things like that when you're there. Perhaps I was just raised differently. To each their own.

Now the chef part, yea, that wouldn't have went over so well. But, I can understand his frustrations.....he should have kept himself in the kitchen.

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RE: Truth or manners - 6/1/2013 8:09:51 PM   
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Regarding ketchup on pasta, I have one worse.

I host Latin American minor league ballplayers every summer. Some of them put mayo on pasta.

(Emphasis added.)

This gave me the same reaction as a picture posted to p. 50 of Eye Candy by DuskyPearls, but for a completely different reason.

Edit: Actually, a completely opposite reaction, with the same result.

< Message edited by tommonymous -- 6/1/2013 8:11:37 PM >

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RE: Truth or manners - 6/1/2013 10:46:02 PM   
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First off, ketchup on pasta? Ewwww!


Tomato sauce and ketchup the same thing?
I use to have tomato sauce on spaghetti all the time as a kid...

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