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RollingThunder -> RE: would a master be happy to hear his/her sub is in love with him/her (6/5/2013 3:44:28 AM)

i would hope it would come to that but in time.



Arturas -> RE: would a master be happy to hear his/her sub is in love with him/her (6/5/2013 9:56:45 PM)

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OP, first, I'm going to thank you for recognizing that the term "Master" applies to both male and female


No. This would be true in this context if "Mistress" also applied to both male and female but in this context "Mistress" applies to female and "Master" applies only to males. The OP would be correct in using "Master" for both genders in another context as in "master of those events" or "master craftsperson". However, the OP is clearly addressing specific genders in the use of "his/her" and in this context the forums themselves are separated into two named "ask a Mistress" and "ask a Master" and they are not named so one can "ask a female" and "ask a female or Male".





tazzygirl -> RE: would a master be happy to hear his/her sub is in love with him/her (6/5/2013 10:34:01 PM)

Why?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/master

1
a (1) : a male teacher (2) : a person holding an academic degree higher than a bachelor's but lower than a doctor's
b often capitalized : a revered religious leader
c : a worker or artisan qualified to teach apprentices
d (1) : an artist, performer, or player of consummate skill (2) : a great figure of the past (as in science or art) whose work serves as a model or ideal
2
a : one having authority over another : ruler, governor
b : one that conquers or masters : victor, superior <in the new challenger the champion found his master>
c : a person licensed to command a merchant ship
d (1) : one having control (2) : an owner especially of a slave or animal
e : the employer especially of a servant
f (1) dialect : husband (2) : the male head of a household

None of the bolded indicate sex of the person.

Honestly, you shouldnt feel so threatened.



LadyPact -> RE: would a master be happy to hear his/her sub is in love with him/her (6/5/2013 10:58:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Arturas
No. This would be true in this context if "Mistress" also applied to both male and female but in this context "Mistress" applies to female and "Master" applies only to males. The OP would be correct in using "Master" for both genders in another context as in "master of those events" or "master craftsperson". However, the OP is clearly addressing specific genders in the use of "his/her" and in this context the forums themselves are separated into two named "ask a Mistress" and "ask a Master" and they are not named so one can "ask a female" and "ask a female or Male".

Bullshit.

The fact that you can not respect the culture of the leather people on these boards is not My failing. It is yours.

The set up these boards is a weak excuse. A shallow one. If the best that one can present as "proof" of "mastery" is a flesh and blood penis, I would say that person is the weakest of Dominants, relying only on sexual, rather than all of the other forms of Dominance available.

The OP was quite correct in using the term according to leather culture. One, of which, realized a long time ago, that Mastery is not tied to the genitals.

What would you say, Artie, if tomorrow you were in a horrible car accident and you no longer had your penis to rely on? If those little nuggets were cut off and you no longer could rely on testosterone? Where does your Masterly focus upon then? Can you rely on your skills? Your knowledge? Your position in the community? Your commitment to education?

I have no need to debase you. You, and frankly the girl you speak so proudly of, have debased yourself. I can not be the only person who has noticed that you no longer allow her to post here after your humiliation. I will gladly take the respect that I have earned rather than your flesh and blood penis that you feel you lucked into any day.



Btw, My strap on is probably bigger than that little thing you call a friend.

Oh, and I'm still more that willing to go to The Mark, put My whip in My hand, and put you to shame.




tazzygirl -> RE: would a master be happy to hear his/her sub is in love with him/her (6/5/2013 11:18:32 PM)

stars response when the gonads are gone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wKoVAQkGLc



JeffBC -> RE: would a master be happy to hear his/her sub is in love with him/her (6/6/2013 1:14:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SoulcatcherXXX

As others said, it depends on the person. I would personally love to hear news like that. It's been my experience that it is quite a bit more risky in terms of maintaining a strong relationship over time when the Master falls in love with the slave than the other way round. A Master in love with a slave, especially if the Master is new, often can lead to an unwillingness to mete out proper discipline, or maybe a better way to say it is that the slave might be allowed to get away with certain things that normally wouldn't fly at all. The Master might no longer like the idea of punishing the slave hard, for instance, and let some mistakes slide. That's almost always a mistake and in my experience usually leads to the slave deciding the Master is no longer strong enough to handle her...and so she leaves him. But as I said, I had great luck and really enjoyed things when I owned a slave who was in love with me. Good luck!!!

Pretty much none of which would be true if the master was actually dominant. I hear that line all the time and the only thing I can think of the alleged master is "puppy". Sometimes I wonder what people mean when they say "master". The person you are describing needs to start mastering himself first.

For all I love Carol I will do what it takes to make this marriage run optimally. That may mean I submit to her wishes or it may mean she bends to mine in any given circunpmstance. But exactly because I DO love her so I owe her my absolute best and it will always be ME who chooses what is "optimal".



JeffBC -> RE: would a master be happy to hear his/her sub is in love with him/her (6/6/2013 1:18:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ATEXEN

Having a Master and slave in love either way is not good and would undermind the entire relationship and eventually cause hard feelings with either.

For you. I get it that some people don't warns love in the relationship. An awful lot who say what you just did cannot handle love. That's neat and all but the rest of us manage just fine. In fact, the three deepest (by far) dynamics I am aware of all have very strong love based components despite the fact that one started out not wanting it.



tazzygirl -> RE: would a master be happy to hear his/her sub is in love with him/her (6/6/2013 1:39:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ATEXEN

Having a Master and slave in love either way is not good and would undermind the entire relationship and eventually cause hard feelings with either.


You are really confused on many levels, arent you darling.

Your profile reads like the many, many on line gorean sites. You talk about defrauding the government openly, you claim your wife is totally vanilla, yet your profile states you want a slave house... hmm... does wifey poo know about this fantasy of yours?

As far as a love relationship between a Master and a slave... even the gorean novels you seem to want to "emulate" speak of that in glowing terms. Try reading all the books instead of just the web sites.



angelikaJ -> RE: would a master be happy to hear his/her sub is in love with him/her (6/6/2013 6:40:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ATEXEN

Having a Master and slave in love either way is not good and would undermind the entire relationship and eventually cause hard feelings with either.


I disagree.
It does not have to undermine anything.
Love is not the problem.
How being loved or loving something changes your personal dynamic style is.

There was a thread on here back in 2007 (by a poster who is no longer here) that addressed this beautifully.
http://www.collarchat.com/m_1240921/mpage_1/key_responsibility/tm.htm#1240921

On a personal level, [my] Master found me here over 4 years ago.

Early on, He said some things to me that made me realise that He was someone I could probably love.

I think He was a bit uncertain when I first told Him I loved Him.
Now it is something that brings both He (and I) great joy.



KobayashiiMaru -> RE: would a master be happy to hear his/her sub is in love with him/her (6/6/2013 4:03:25 PM)

In my 20's that would send me running for the hills. In my 30s, it's the sweetest thing I could hear. For whatever age your master is, it takes time for them to be comfortable with having a sub worship the ground they walk on, so to speak. In other words, it's a HUUUUUUGE responsibility, and it SHOULD be scary, if you aren't ready for it.

Do you think your master is ready for that? If he isn't, maybe he's not the master for you... at least not yet.



YourLordandLady -> RE: would a master be happy to hear his/her sub is in love with him/her (6/9/2013 12:36:14 PM)

I certainly would, it's an expectation in fact. If one of my little ones doesn't love me, then what's the point?



asianfetish24 -> RE: would a master be happy to hear his/her sub is in love with him/her (6/9/2013 6:55:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady


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ORIGINAL: asianfetish24

Thanks everyone for your input, much appreciated. Do I love him, like nueva posting above I'm starting to fall for him. Am I there yet, time will let me know. I did manage to gather up the courage and shoot him an email about how I felt about him and he read my email in front of me. I'm not one who wears my heart on my sleeve so expressing myself like I did took a lot.

Again thanks everyone



Ok, I have to ask....Is this all over the internet, or have you met this person and have a face to face relationship> And yes, it does make a difference.



Six months and going. We've met but I'm a chicken shit when it comes to expressing my feelings so I do it via email.



ThundersCry54 -> RE: would a master be happy to hear his/her sub is in love with him/her (6/9/2013 8:08:39 PM)

I`d have it no other way...now...



goodgirlmary -> RE: would a master be happy to hear his/her sub is in love with him/her (6/14/2013 6:16:04 AM)

What is a leather people?



MasterCaneman -> RE: would a master be happy to hear his/her sub is in love with him/her (6/14/2013 6:42:15 AM)

I'm sure Lady Pact will be among the best to answer this, but it's a community of kinksters that adhere to a set of protocols that are unique within the scene. While anyone can wear leather, it's another thing entirely to be Leather. I'm not qualified to give you all the criteria, that I'll leave to you by suggesting you hit the Search feature and work your way through the older posts (don't comment if over 3 months old please) or you could Google it using terms like "Leather Community", "Leather Protocol", "Old Guard", etc.

Note that capitalization is important to find the correct terminology, and just for shits and giggles, I hit my ol' buddy Wikipedia for a quick rundown of what's there. Wikipedia Article on Leather Sub-Culture. . While not all-encompassing, it does provide a list of external links and other links within the genre. As others will note, many of the ideas put forth can be highly subjective, so take what you read with a grain of salt.



chatterbox24 -> RE: would a master be happy to hear his/her sub is in love with him/her (6/14/2013 7:08:46 AM)

OH how I loved mine!!! He made me crazy with the intensity of all emotions. Highest sense of everything, took a while to come down or think straight.

Did he like that I loved him? OH yes very much, just like Kana said, gave a lot of leverage for him as the master.


Did he love me? No but still he liked that I loved him.

Watch out for that. I suggest if you love, only stay if you are loved back.
Tends to turn negative, if its not mutual.
Good luck.



MasterSignusNova -> RE: would a master be happy to hear his/her sub is in love with him/her (6/23/2013 8:09:33 AM)

This depends on the type of thing you want. However, its hard not to love and care for your sub if she has given everything for you. She can fall in love with you. Sometimes is unavoidable. BDSM es such a personal relationship its hard no to.



goodgirlmary -> RE: would a master be happy to hear his/her sub is in love with him/her (6/23/2013 8:27:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman

I'm sure Lady Pact will be among the best to answer this, but it's a community of kinksters that adhere to a set of protocols that are unique within the scene. While anyone can wear leather, it's another thing entirely to be Leather. I'm not qualified to give you all the criteria, that I'll leave to you by suggesting you hit the Search feature and work your way through the older posts (don't comment if over 3 months old please) or you could Google it using terms like "Leather Community", "Leather Protocol", "Old Guard", etc.

Note that capitalization is important to find the correct terminology, and just for shits and giggles, I hit my ol' buddy Wikipedia for a quick rundown of what's there. Wikipedia Article on Leather Sub-Culture. . While not all-encompassing, it does provide a list of external links and other links within the genre. As others will note, many of the ideas put forth can be highly subjective, so take what you read with a grain of salt.



Thanks,reading now



JustAMas -> RE: would a master be happy to hear his/her sub is in love with him/her (8/4/2013 12:39:36 AM)

Yes... I would expect her to be in LOVE with me... even if I don't love her back (though that's probably a lie, I really do).

For me, the whole point of getting into a BDSM relation is for love... I'm pretty much only romantically attracted to a particular type of submissive women...



Teacher74 -> RE: would a master be happy to hear his/her sub is in love with him/her (8/4/2013 10:24:06 PM)

As my Mentor has put it, " There is a difference between loving someone and being IN love with someone." Do you know the difference?



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