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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Whatcha think?

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Ban the airbrush and then ad agencies will only hire models who don't need airbrushing.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

grins

I never portray the avatar's here as me. Its all about the fantasy. Nor do I think most men here have the expectation of having an ass like that to spank. Thats the irony of it for me. .

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Ban the airbrush and then ad agencies will only hire models who don't need airbrushing.

I dont believe that model exists.

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Actually, I disagree with you. I believe many men indeed have the expectation that all women look like your avatar. That is why they are so angry, lol

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Actually, I disagree with you. I believe many men indeed have the expectation that all women look like your avatar. That is why they are so angry, lol

lol... you might have a point about the angry ones.

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ORIGINAL: curious23

One has to first pin point the reason for low self esteem in the first place before even beginning to solve this problem. IMO it's not because there are unrealistic portrayals of the female body but because there is no variety. The unrealistic portrayals are the ONLY portrayals out there in mainstream media. Everywhere you look, everything is telling girls they have to be perfect in order to be important. You can't be the love interest in a movie unless you are gorgeous and thin. You can't play as a mother of 3 in a commercial unless you are gorgeous and thin. You can't be a model unless you are gorgeous and thin. Society forces the equation "thin + pretty = relevant" down our throats with no other combinations leading to relevancy except for in the extreme minority. If more times than not fat girls, girls of color, or girls with imperfections were cast as the main characters (instead of the main character's single, comedic relief best friend) or the object of desire in a commercial or ad then there would be no need to for banning airbrushing. Being 'perfect' would be seen as a legitimate form of beauty because there would be other legitimate forms of beauty that you could aspire to be like if 'perfect' wasn't your thing.

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

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ORIGINAL: curious23

One has to first pin point the reason for low self esteem in the first place before even beginning to solve this problem. IMO it's not because there are unrealistic portrayals of the female body but because there is no variety. The unrealistic portrayals are the ONLY portrayals out there in mainstream media. Everywhere you look, everything is telling girls they have to be perfect in order to be important. You can't be the love interest in a movie unless you are gorgeous and thin. You can't play as a mother of 3 in a commercial unless you are gorgeous and thin. You can't be a model unless you are gorgeous and thin. Society forces the equation "thin + pretty = relevant" down our throats with no other combinations leading to relevancy except for in the extreme minority. If more times than not fat girls, girls of color, or girls with imperfections were cast as the main characters (instead of the main character's single, comedic relief best friend) or the object of desire in a commercial or ad then there would be no need to for banning airbrushing. Being 'perfect' would be seen as a legitimate form of beauty because there would be other legitimate forms of beauty that you could aspire to be like if 'perfect' wasn't your thing.

You can be a model who is not thin; they are called Plus Size models. And you can get cast in TV commercials and print ads as a normal looking person. Many casting agencies ask for natural types, of all sizes and shapes.

Your post is interesting as well since your own profile states that you wish to have a "perfect" body.

So, it is great that you can admit that there needs to be more definitions of beauty.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

There is a solution, genetic scientists need to figure out how to cause people to mutate immediately so that everyone on the planet turns into a perfectly formed humans with facial features following the golden ratio.

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But yea, my goal is not to dismiss the current standard of beauty. My goal is for society to add to it and tell women that if you're not a super model, it's not the end of the world. You can still get the hot guy in the movie or be the object of attraction in a vodkaa commercial. God forbid a cleaner advertisement (other than febreeze) cast a man instead of a mother.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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But yea, my goal is not to dismiss the current standard of beauty. My goal is for society to add to it and tell women that if you're not a super model, it's not the end of the world. You can still get the hot guy in the movie or be the object of attraction in a vodkaa commercial. God forbid a cleaner advertisement (other than febreeze) cast a man instead of a mother.

Our goal should be to teach our little girl's that the magazine beauty is unobtainable, a fantasy, no more or less than the Cinderella one.

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Getting rid of airbrushing in popular press will not solve anything because there are still online pictures of airbrushed beauties. Are they gonna mysteriously ban that too to make all of the self conscious women of the world feel better? Or is it more realistic to teach women that there is more than one form of beauty out there? Great figures are obtainable. So is great hair and great skin. It's not unobtainable and I've seen those types of bodies. I've even had that type of body while on the swim team back in high school (not bragging. If you work hard, you can obtain what you desire physically). It's important to teach girls that it's okay not to have these bodies. There are other forms of legitimate beauties.

You just have to get those 'other' forms out there.

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Our goal should be to teach our little girl's that the magazine beauty is unobtainable, a fantasy, no more or less than the Cinderella one.

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It's not unobtainable and I've seen those types of bodies.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Getting rid of airbrushing in popular press will not solve anything because there are still online pictures of airbrushed beauties. Are they gonna mysteriously ban that too to make all of the self conscious women of the world feel better? Or is it more realistic to teach women that there is more than one form of beauty out there? Great figures are obtainable. So is great hair and great skin. It's not unobtainable and I've seen those types of bodies. I've even had that type of body while on the swim team back in high school (not bragging. If you work hard, you can obtain what you desire physically). It's important to teach girls that it's okay not to have these bodies. There are other forms of legitimate beauties.

You just have to get those 'other' forms out there.

ffs... does no one get that the "?" at the end of a sentence is asking a question and not making a statement?

Lets try this slowly for the... ahem

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Our goal should be to teach our little girl's that the magazine beauty is unobtainable, a fantasy, no more or less than the Cinderella one.

Magazines are air brushed, touched up barbie dolls, made to look as pretty as possible... and most times far from the reality of the subject they are photographing.

I think Tyra, when dressed up with make-up, is beautiful... yet in reality... without all that make up, she is simply a woman. Little girls are not getting that message. They are seeing the size zero's and double zero's. They arent hearing about the models who are 6 foot and starving themselves to look like that.

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It's not unobtainable and I've seen those types of bodies.

We have all seen those types of bodies. 5-6, 150 lbs, and my physician yelled at me because I was "unfit". I looked sick, my skin was sallow, my hair was falling out, my joints ached, and I felt miserable.. and I looked horrible. But damn if I couldnt fit into those size 8 jeans. I was quickly killing myself. My body would never be a size zero. Sorry chicka... for many, those bodies are NOT obtainable and its time we started accepting that not everyone will look like a Victoria's Secret swimsuit model.

Now, you want to be a stripper... good for you. Not every little girl wants to be a stripper... not every little girl could BE a stripper. The same way not every little girl will have that body you are so hungry for.

Good for you if you get it back. I could care less how I look these days. I am more into the physical health and needs of my body then worrying about how I will look to a room full of men.

Sex sells. Its time we redefined what is sexy so that its healthy... not so that it makes people feel insecure, undesirable and unwanted.

This call for banning air brushing is just another step.... they not too long ago started on runway models. Too thin tooth picks walking down the cat walks and dying, literally, for the opportunity.

I looked my best at 160. Lush hips, big breasts, tiny waist.... man.. I wish someone had told me I was hot.. instead of hearing over and over how I had such a pretty face... how I would look better if I lost a bit of weight.

And, ya know what? I finally, after all these years, am starting to feel beautiful again. But that beauty comes from within, not from a magazine cover.

The images we are giving little girls is damaging. Period.

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ORIGINAL: curious23

One has to first pin point the reason for low self esteem in the first place before even beginning to solve this problem. IMO it's not because there are unrealistic portrayals of the female body but because there is no variety. The unrealistic portrayals are the ONLY portrayals out there in mainstream media. Everywhere you look, everything is telling girls they have to be perfect in order to be important. You can't be the love interest in a movie unless you are gorgeous and thin. You can't play as a mother of 3 in a commercial unless you are gorgeous and thin. You can't be a model unless you are gorgeous and thin. Society forces the equation "thin + pretty = relevant" down our throats with no other combinations leading to relevancy except for in the extreme minority. If more times than not fat girls, girls of color, or girls with imperfections were cast as the main characters (instead of the main character's single, comedic relief best friend) or the object of desire in a commercial or ad then there would be no need to for banning airbrushing. Being 'perfect' would be seen as a legitimate form of beauty because there would be other legitimate forms of beauty that you could aspire to be like if 'perfect' wasn't your thing.