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DesideriScuri -> RE: Something people actually should be outraged about (6/18/2013 2:27:17 AM)

FR,

Isn't this a natural progression of "going paperless?"




SadistDave -> RE: Something people actually should be outraged about (6/18/2013 2:33:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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I'm also not quite sure about the validity of her lawsuit. According to the story in the OP, McDonalds is paying her. She has no proof at all that it will cost her extra money or that McDonalds is profiting from her payroll. They are taking no "ill-gotten gains" from her, which is what she is suing McDonalds for...


PA law is specific.

As far as pulling it all out at once, yes, they can, for a fee... 1.50 at an ATM, which may not always be safe... or 5 dollars to the teller.


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But you know... According to the article, state law says she must be given a choice to be paid in cash or by check. That would seem be pretty cut and dried, and something that could be cleared up by a call to the states Labor Board in about 30 seconds. This is precisely the sort of thing that agency is there to deal with. The lawsuit is bullshit and a complete waste of taxpayers time. If it turns out that the employees did not try to have the problem resolved through the labor board before filing this frivolous piece of shit, I hope they get their money-grubbing asses handed to them by the judge.


And Wage comes in, does a review, and settles the matter.... for that company. Since this is a franchise, and its become corporate policy.. all their restaurants are doing this.

And, no, its not 30 seconds. There is an investigation. The guy I spoke to in the PA area who did ours told me they sometimes take a few months. There are few investigators.


I see the safety issue as a red herring. In some cases it may not be safe to be paid in cash or by check. Where she banks is her own lookout. Her neighborhood is not at issue, or what time of day she visits the ATM at the 7-11.

Don't know about anywhere else, but if I wanted to cash a payroll check anywhere but a bank around here it would cost me 2%. That's actually more expensive than paying a teller $5. If one has a bank account to begin with those fees are usually waived at a decent bank, so again... her banking is her own lookout...

The only time I've had to call the Missouri Labor Board about a payroll issue the problem was resolved before the next pay period ended. It sounds to me like the only people who should be outraged are Pa. residents. If that's the best the Pa state government can do, the citizens really should be pissed. Some things call for an investigation. Something like this requires one or two questions to the employer about their payroll practices over the phone, an explaination of the law, to be followed up by the phrase "You have ___ days to comply."

-SD-




SadistDave -> RE: Something people actually should be outraged about (6/18/2013 2:48:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

FR,

Isn't this a natural progression of "going paperless?"


Indeed. And according to Alex Jones, very soon we will all be forced to have ID chips implanted in our hands with the number of the beast encoded in them that we will use for all our financial needs.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

-SD-




tazzygirl -> RE: Something people actually should be outraged about (6/18/2013 4:15:55 AM)

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Don't know about anywhere else, but if I wanted to cash a payroll check anywhere but a bank around here it would cost me 2%. That's actually more expensive than paying a teller $5. If one has a bank account to begin with those fees are usually waived at a decent bank, so again... her banking is her own lookout...


10 bucks here with PNC, which most corporate accounts are. She may have her own bank account already. The point is that the company is violating Pennsylvania law. And its not just a PA law, I noticed the same in NJ, so I am sure other states have the same law.

80,000 employees. Someone is making money off this deal.

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Some things call for an investigation. Something like this requires one or two questions to the employer about their payroll practices over the phone, an explaination of the law, to be followed up by the phrase "You have ___ days to comply."


A demand for an explanation which gets routed back to corporate so they can haggle over who has jurisdiction, ect ect. Sue em.




DomKen -> RE: Something people actually should be outraged about (6/18/2013 4:50:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SadistDave
Don't know about anywhere else, but if I wanted to cash a payroll check anywhere but a bank around here it would cost me 2%. That's actually more expensive than paying a teller $5. If one has a bank account to begin with those fees are usually waived at a decent bank, so again... her banking is her own lookout...

She works at McDonalds at nearly minimum wage. For a 5 dollar fee to not be more than 2% of her gross wages she would have had to work 33.5 hours which is unlikely. Once you deduct even FISA from her gross a $5 fee is certainly more than 2% of her take home pay.

Also you seem to believe she had an option of direct deposit, the article clearly states she tried to get that and the company refused.




MariaB -> RE: Something people actually should be outraged about (6/18/2013 5:24:19 AM)

jlf1961... You get paid to donate your blood?! your kidding me? If so your not actually donating your plasma, your selling it!




MariaB -> RE: Something people actually should be outraged about (6/18/2013 5:33:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: SadistDave
Don't know about anywhere else, but if I wanted to cash a payroll check anywhere but a bank around here it would cost me 2%. That's actually more expensive than paying a teller $5. If one has a bank account to begin with those fees are usually waived at a decent bank, so again... her banking is her own lookout...

She works at McDonalds at nearly minimum wage. For a 5 dollar fee to not be more than 2% of her gross wages she would have had to work 33.5 hours which is unlikely. Once you deduct even FISA from her gross a $5 fee is certainly more than 2% of her take home pay.

Also you seem to believe she had an option of direct deposit, the article clearly states she tried to get that and the company refused.


I'm not sure why you guys can't have your sallary paid by direct bank transfer?

The only thing wrong with this case is, the woman wasn't given the choice of cash or a cheque.
If you read the responses at the bottom of the link, it says;

There is NOT a fee for every transaction . You can take all of your money off one time with ZERO fee. It is only if you make multiple transactions. You also can set up an account online so that you can check your balance and there is ZERO charge for that too. You can check it as many times as you wish and no fees are added.... you can also have a text sent to your cell phone for FREE to tell you what your pay is. I know because I work at McDonald's and I have NEVER been charged any fee at all ... I get my full paycheck !! There is not one penny taken out of it for fees.





jlf1961 -> RE: Something people actually should be outraged about (6/18/2013 5:38:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MariaB

jlf1961... You get paid to donate your blood?! your kidding me? If so your not actually donating your plasma, your selling it!



Not blood, just plasma, and it is not pay for the plasma in and of itself, but compensation for the time. I have a friend dependent on medicines made from blood plasma, and the local center is the only place to donate plasma.

Considering how crowded it usually is, you may end up taking an hour to be screened, and just as long to get to a donor bed, so it can take up to three hours.

As I said, I am not dependent on the money from donating, but there are a lot of people who are in town. CSL has toyed with the idea of keeping the center open from 7AM to 10PM or even midnight.

And I donate blood when my blood type is needed, I am AB- and on the call list for the local blood bank.




tj444 -> RE: Something people actually should be outraged about (6/18/2013 6:35:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Ohhhhhhhhhhh ok.

Housing Assistance Payment (HAP)
„ RRHA’s share of the Contract Rent, sent directly to landlord or agent monthly, typically about 30% of adjusted gross income after allowable deductions

„ Utility Assistance Payment (UAP)„ Sent monthly directly to some extremely Low income or $0 income families to assist with utility cost determined by HUD calculation method


Rent goes straight to the landlord... UAP pays utilities. It always tickles me when people claim Section 8 gives free housing.

well,.. i have never claimed anything like that,.. i know section 8 only pays only a portion of the rent, & that many section 8 work but their income isnt enough, which is why they need/qualify for section 8.. and that it can take years to even get section 8 help (cuz of all the people that need it).. and that section 8 may even be able to buy a home.. (not part of section 8 but there are some low income downpayment help here-up to $30k- for certain properties)..

http://www.housingforhouston.com/housing-programs/housing-choice-voucher/housing-choice-voucher-homeownership-program.aspx




erieangel -> RE: Something people actually should be outraged about (6/18/2013 11:33:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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The cards are made flimsy, the electronic strips last only about 6 months though I've seen them wear out in a matter of weeks and many people are charged $3.00 for new cards.


The charge is only if they lose them. If they stop working, its a free replacement.



Supposedly, they aren't to be charged if the cards stop working, but I've seen people charged when that is the case. It may have just been that the caseworker flubbed up the paperwork or something, but it does happen. The Erie DPW office just hired about 15 new case workers in the past year and I don't think they have any idea what they are doing. My son's food stamps were cut in half beginning this month...The caseworker claimed he doesn't pay rent or utilities. The utilities happen to be in his name.





tazzygirl -> RE: Something people actually should be outraged about (6/18/2013 11:44:23 AM)

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There is NOT a fee for every transaction . You can take all of your money off one time with ZERO fee. It is only if you make multiple transactions. You also can set up an account online so that you can check your balance and there is ZERO charge for that too. You can check it as many times as you wish and no fees are added.... you can also have a text sent to your cell phone for FREE to tell you what your pay is. I know because I work at McDonald's and I have NEVER been charged any fee at all ... I get my full paycheck !! There is not one penny taken out of it for fees.


A response like this, in the comments section, is not one I would take a being "truthful". Not saying they are lying. But there must be some merit to the case for the lawyers to file.




DomKen -> RE: Something people actually should be outraged about (6/18/2013 2:47:18 PM)

More from the bestest ever employer file
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/18/nyregion/us-seizes-14-7-eleven-stores-in-immigration-raids.html?hpw&_r=1&




VideoAdminChi -> RE: Something people actually should be outraged about (6/18/2013 6:08:15 PM)

FR,

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