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OrionTheWolf -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 3:54:46 PM)

~FR~

He posted once. He vented. He is gone.




SimplyMichael -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 5:11:58 PM)

I love going into chatrooms and slicing off a womans labia...people actually freak out.




Rawni -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 5:20:25 PM)

LOL... nana nana nana. *Flashing some labia.*




SimplyMichael -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 5:26:55 PM)

Slits open her clitoral hood and pours salt on the open wound.

Somehow that sends roims into panicked frenzi




deliriuminabox -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 5:29:59 PM)

I just cringed reading that.




BossyShoeBitch -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 5:31:34 PM)

Ok, EWWW!




hrxxx -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 6:04:27 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rawni

[:D] So we have a dominant that claims a dominant should earn his place as dominant for values sake, that uses a stolen picture and tells it how it should be to people that have varied experiences and takes it upon himself to use this forum format to vent?

That's impressive. [:D]


I would not call this picture stolen, you can clearly see that it is from a kind of advertising




hrxxx -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 6:06:57 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

If you are referring to me as Master within the first 2 minutes of an IM conversation you are either a cyber-sub pretending or your submission is of so little value you are willing to give it away as opposed to having your perspective Master earn it. Either way a true Dom with something to offer in search of a true sub with something to offer is not going to be interested.

Or there is a 3rd possibility: the woman in question is very inexperienced and is doing it because she either does not know it is okay to be herself, or was previously reamed out by a "Master" who told her she should defer to him and how she should behave with/address him.

[My] Master would never refer to Himself as a "true Dom".
Nor would I refer to myself as a "true sub/slave".
What we are is true to ourselves and true to each other.

So while I can appreciate your opinion for what it is, in my opinion, it is a little shortsighted and narrow in it's scope.



Or maybe she is inexperienced and just trying to be polite




OsideGirl -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 6:08:02 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: hrxxx


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rawni

[:D] So we have a dominant that claims a dominant should earn his place as dominant for values sake, that uses a stolen picture and tells it how it should be to people that have varied experiences and takes it upon himself to use this forum format to vent?

That's impressive. [:D]


I would not call this picture stolen, you can clearly see that it is from a kind of advertising


If you did not take the photo, are not in the photo and do not have permission to use the photo....it is by definition stolen.




Rawni -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 6:37:16 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Slits open her clitoral hood and pours salt on the open wound.

Somehow that sends roims into panicked frenzi


Yeah... you have waited to do that a very long time. [:D] No freak out here. It's all talk man.




SimplyMichael -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/19/2013 6:39:50 PM)

Exactly! Its a giant yawn...




nephandi -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/20/2013 12:13:41 AM)

Greetings

Well cybering can be fun at times. Sometimes when I am visiting my mom me and Aswad will cyber in the evenings, I mean it is not like real sex but it is better than no sex. Also I love roleplaying and sometimes roleplaying can get kinky as well. In fact writing this me and Aswad is roleplaying a game that have kinky elements, and that could be seen as cybering. I have also had cyber partners bu no for me cybering is just a bit of fun, it can not replace real life sex, but like I said it can be fun at times.

I have nothing against cybering, I mean I do have a real life relationship and do it at times (yes Aswad knows and approves) but if you can not have a BDSM relationship or have not found the right one yet then cybering whatever it is actual cyber sex or RPGing with sex can be a good way to at least get a bit of that itch scratched I think.

I wish you all well




nephandi -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/20/2013 12:22:08 AM)

Greetings

quote:

Slits open her clitoral hood and pours salt on the open wound.

Somehow that sends roims into panicked frenzi


Is there something wrong with me that I find the above rather hot, and if it would not do permanent harm I would have accepted it done to me? Off course I do not want permanent harm done, but yes as a fantasy?

I wish you well




MrBuild -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/20/2013 8:33:07 AM)

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Or....he was just starting a conversation.


Thank you Kaliko, as this was my sole intent. However after seeing how some misinterpreted and misunderstood the content and point of my post I initially decided not to respond. People have different perspectives and there is room for each of them. That being said I know there is a difference between a conversation and a pissing match, and I do not participate in pissing matches. I will however itemize the points of my op and then leave the last word to anyone who feels compelled to have it.

1) The main point was simple be honest about what you want
2) I never said anything was wrong with Cyber my problem was with the deceit
3) I never said I wanted anyone to meet me in real life immediately.
4) Not being able to see the merit in a topic, does not mean the merit does not exist. It is equally possible that the one who cannot see the merit has clouded vision
5) Stolen picture, the funniest of them all. It's called a Living Social Boudoir photography deal. This is the same picture we use on Google+. Perhaps I should post a few more from the session. Let's see if I'm accused of stealing those as well.

Although it's doubtful I will respond I am looking forward to the last words no matter how negative, confrontational or simian they may be. My partner and I shall certainly get a laugh out of it as we walk above it all.





tsatske -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/20/2013 8:35:00 AM)

MrB,
once you get to know people here, there are some really nice people, and some really good information to be had on here. Hope you keep coming around.




masmiss -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/20/2013 9:31:50 AM)

quote:


If you are referring to me as Master within the first 2 minutes of an IM conversation you are either a cyber-sub pretending or your submission is of so little value you are willing to give it away as opposed to having your perspective Master earn it.


This is driving me crazy.

It's prospective




SimplyMichael -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/20/2013 9:38:42 AM)

Unless he is a master of perception?




Kaliko -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/20/2013 10:42:14 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrBuild

1) The main point was simple be honest about what you want
2) I never said anything was wrong with Cyber my problem was with the deceit
3) I never said I wanted anyone to meet me in real life immediately.
4) Not being able to see the merit in a topic, does not mean the merit does not exist. It is equally possible that the one who cannot see the merit has clouded vision
5) Stolen picture, the funniest of them all. It's called a Living Social Boudoir photography deal. This is the same picture we use on Google+. Perhaps I should post a few more from the session. Let's see if I'm accused of stealing those as well.



People that are new to all of this might not actually know what they want. Exploring these things online, in the relative safety and anonymity of a website like this, allows them to try on all sorts of different feelings. I'm among the many who believe that cyber anything is not anything like the real thing. (Though, it can be a worthwhile and fun supplement.) But there was a time that I was on websites, talking to others, learning, feeling things out, with no real knowledge of ever being "real time" - because I had no real concept of "real time" versus "cyber." I had barely come to terms with the idea of being "a submissive." It's all just a big ol' learning curve and people these days get thrown at it full speed when they bump into a website like this.

As much as I roll my eyes a bit when I hear others suggest going to munches, finding a mentor, etc., I've come to believe that there probably is a certain value to that advice. Believe me, I cringe when I think of some of the things I've done because I didn't know any better. I'm sure I've embarrassed myself once or twice. That's also why I tend to have a bit of a soft spot for those who come on these boards asking what some people think are stupid questions. (Not you - I mean subs who ask about whether they're supposed to be tied up on the first meet or if they're supposed to not wear underwear the first time they Skype with a guy.) Many people just don't know what they don't know. It probably would be helpful to have someone nearby to smack some of these people upside the head and say "You idiot. Of course you don't want a dominant right now. For pete's sake, you're still fucking married!" (Or whatever the reason.)

If someone is referring to you as "Master" within the first few minutes, yes, you're right, they could be looking for cyber-only and calling you that gets them off, or their submission could have no value. Or,...they could just be inexperienced. Maybe a little naive. Maybe searching for something online that they don't have in their offline worlds and taking those first steps toward realizing what could be. They may be learning what that word even means to them, how it feels to say it or write it, and whether it does mean anything to them or not. Just because you know what it means to you doesn't mean every submissive knows how they feel about it.

I think maybe these submissives may want a real life dominant partner, ultimately, but feel comfortable only taking baby steps there. The alternative is that maybe they are waiting to click with someone so well that their cyber-only barriers are no longer necessary. As DesFip said, they're not necessarily wrong for wanting to wade in the water a little bit at a time, even if their end goal is to have so much more.




MrBuild -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/20/2013 11:12:13 AM)

Wow, thank you Kaliko that was a very insightful post. I appreciate you taking the time to write it. It has certainly broaden my view.




CelticPrince -> RE: Cyber subs? (6/20/2013 11:44:41 AM)

Well put Des!

CP




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