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slaveluci -> RE: BDSM and Oddness (6/22/2013 8:40:31 PM)

Yes, we're all special, unique little snowflakes - just like every-one-else. If we are ALL unique, that's just not unique at all, is it? [8D]

luci




sexyred1 -> RE: BDSM and Oddness (6/22/2013 9:27:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slaveluci

Yes, we're all special, unique little snowflakes - just like every-one-else. If we are ALL unique, that's just not unique at all, is it? [8D]

luci


I realize you are trying to be snarky, but yes, actually, we are all special snowflakes, some of us more than others.

You didn't get the point about unique vs. odd I guess.




RemoteUser -> RE: BDSM and Oddness (6/22/2013 9:44:34 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: slaveluci

Yes, we're all special, unique little snowflakes - just like every-one-else. If we are ALL unique, that's just not unique at all, is it? [8D]

luci


Every time I see this very old and tired cliche, I am reminded that the person's focus is on "special", and not "unique". Making the mistake that the two are interchangeable would validate the argument, but the fact is, one is a hierarchical measuring stick while the other is a mathematical representation.

The blur seems to come from the fact that both words can, in their own right, be synonymous with "distinct". Being socially and mathematically distinct are very different animals. I am in the upper echelon of the company that employs me, distinguishing me from the majority of the workers. My fingerprints are unique, distinguishing me from other human beings. Both make me distinct, the former being (arguably) "special", the latter being factually "unique".

That, and this line really strikes me as being an angry disclaimer towards individuality, which leads back to the OP. It is one thing to be individual; another, for that individuality to afford a ranking of distinction. I would love to be athletic. I am content being a decent writer. The social designation labels me in terms of where I fit in with others, but casts nothing on my own self-view (unless I allow it to). In plainer terms, being odd isn't all it's cracked up to be, depending on how it is applied by the individual to themselves. How it applies socially is society's business, and if it truly matters to the individual, it may influence their view and actions.

(This reminds me of the distinctions made amongst the classifications of nerd, geek and dork.)





nephandi -> RE: BDSM and Oddness (6/23/2013 12:53:13 AM)

Greetings

For the love of life read the replies man. If you react to the word odd, well okey it is a huge overreaction and it have been explained again and again that no insult was meant, but some do see that word as negative which is why the one who originally used it chanced it to unusual, but target? Bloody hell try to get it through your skull that target of advertisement do not mean anything negative about you or your kink. My mother own a villa so she get advertisement for gardening tools and home renovation magazines, owning a house makes her a target for those kind of advertisements, I own a cat which makes me a target for cat food advertisement, my next door neighbor loves sunbathing so she is a target for vacation trip sellers. Target here just means that you are within a certain demographic or interest group more likely to buy some sort of product so advertisers for that product target those demographics groups, it say NOTHING about you personally.

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Some may not be bothered by being called ODD or a TARGET, and that is fine, but why not think of someone other than oneself and not call others ODD or a TARGET. Perhaps a bit less selfcented behavior would be a good thing. As a community perhaps we need to keep in mind on forums that the feelings and sensitivities of others are at play when we post something and before we jump in to post comments that may hurt others we think about what we have to say.


If one can not say you are the target of a certain kind of advertisement then really one can not say anything on the forum what so ever, you might as well fist someone take offense at the word poster, American or orange as it say nothing else than you are in the demographics group most likely to buy a certain kind of product so those selling this target you. I mean seriously how butthurt is it possible to get over that, and it have been explained to you again and again that odd was used to mean simply unusual and nothing else. If you want to go to a forum where no one ever say odd, target or orange just in case someone might be so oversensitive that they get massively insulted by it, then you need to invent a new internet to put it on.

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Now I am certain that plenty will now have tons of feedback to that thought and that I must be "thin skinned" which when you look at it is just another depricating comment. Perhaps less said is more sometimes and that alone is worth thinking about before one comments.


No my dear you are not thin skinned, you have no skin. In fact I think that either A you have experienced some trauma in your life that makes you this over sensitive and in which case I am sorry for your situation and urge you to seek some help, or you are a drama king who just want to act butt hurt for attention for it is just not possible for a healthy person to be insulted over being told they are the target of certain types of advertisements. Now also there is concern for others that you can expect people to show, but what you demand is using kid gloves with everyone to a point where they might as well close the forum down. I mean if you are a target for this kind of advertisement is such an insult than anything is.

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First off I never said anything about "those I dont like". I pointed something out that I had observed and that was all I did. You as well as a number of others then chose to criticize my persona


No one criticized your person but that have been explained again and again but you just do not read those posts do you for it is fun to be insulted and indignant, well then for your enjoyment and to fulfill your wish let me give you something to cry about, oh and by the way this is criticizing your person.

You are rude by hijacking others threads to put your own grievances into there and you are way to insecure about your own desires to be here. Either you are mentally unstable given how much being called a target of advertisement upset you, or you are like I suspect just a drama king, you hope that if you just act indignant and cry about it enough someone will comfort you and tell you how horrible the world is to poor little you but that is not going to happen for it have been explained to you no insult was meant. In fact sugar you could not have done more damage to your kink if you tried to, no one spoke negatively about it, and still no one have, and none that no one have even touched on the rather obvious puns that could have been made about crybabies, out of respect for your kink. However when someone have a rare kink, like you do whatever you want to admit it or not, everyone following it becomes a representation of it so when you act whiny, self indulgent, attention seeking, disruptive, rude and entitled like you do that reflect negatively on your kink, it should not, but it do for people will see this thread and think what, adult baby, yeah I saw someone into that once and they acted like complete idiots, it is not right that someone should think that and judge your entire kink by your behavior but trust me it do happen. You are a disgrace to your kink so take a step back, take a deep breath and think long an hard if you want to continue to make a fool out of yourself and act like a five year old who was denied candy or if you want to act like the grown man you are, read the replies that explain what was meant about both target and odd and calm the fuck down for this is getting ridiculous.

See there how kind I am? You wanted something to be indignant about and I have just given you some. Now you can cry about how the world is cruel to you, or at least that I am and seam a bit less silly about it.

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here rather than the content of my point that it seemed to me that many that I had encountered that demanded certain forms of address were also folks that seemed to want to pull people to pay sites that was the whole context of my point,


Wrong again though this do prove my theory that you just do not read replies. I and several others DID comment on your theory and said no, in our experience this is not the case, the Doms demanding to be called Master just for having a capped nick and the pay site advertisers do not seam to be the same people, perhaps the pay site advertisers do so as well, but generally they are not the same people. Go back and read the original thread.

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no negative criticism of those folks just a simple observation made by me. I took offense to being CALLED OUT FOR BEING ODD AND A TARGET when my original post was about an observation I was making plain and simple.


No one called you out, it was explained that the reason why you get so many pay site advertisers was that you make a tempting target for them since your kink is unusual and held by more male subs than female Dominants, that is no more calling someone out than say oh you are a active computer game player, I bet you get allot of advertisement for games in your mailbox.

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The fact that you as well as others are dwelling on my response here and have both ignored the original observation as well as have chosen to continue to attack me in many different ways from the thickness of my skin to me needing some kind of counselling speak volumns about your own needs rather than mine. I will leave you all with that message.


Your point was discussed it was just that very few agreed with you. Now at first no one attacked you instead many of us tried to explain what was meant but you continued your complaining and whining and eventually then people grow tired of your bullshit. I do doubt that you will be leaving the thread though, who will try cry to then? No I suspect that in a few posts you will be back for more waa waa waa as you seam to thrive on it.

I wish you well




nephandi -> RE: BDSM and Oddness (6/23/2013 1:28:44 AM)

Greetings

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BDSM is ODD? Who in their right mind thinks BDSM is odd? Isnt that odd to think BDSM is odd? There's nothing ODD about BDSM! I think you need to look deep into your own soul to find out why you are judging BDSM as "odd". Perhaps you have some undealt with feelings here? Perhaps you are lying to yourself as to why you are "here" in the first place?

I personally find wiitwd to be quite normal. Its quite normal in every day living. Its in everyday TV shows, movies, music, the bible.... i dont see anything "odd" about it.


BDSM is in fact odd as in different, out of the ordinary and generally not accepted by mainstream society, now this is slowly changing but right now it do fit the dictionary definition off odd which is posted several times in this thread if you care to have a look. Now off course BDSM is not unusual to me in my life, it is part of my life, but if you look at it from a bird eye perspective then it is different than what most people do, and by that is odd.

I have dyed my hair black and I live in Norway, black hair is odd in Norway that do not mean there is anything wrong with it, but it do fit the dictionary definition off odd. Look at my posts, have I said anything wrong about BDSM, no I have said that it is out of the norm, which it is.

It is the same as being an occultist is odd, now it is in everyday songs, TV shows and all over the place, but for people to actually practice it that is a bit odd, as in unusual, and trust me since I have been practicing this for 21 years I do not think it is anything wrong with it, I love being an occultist, it is my greatest joy in life, it is however unusual and therefore fit the definition off odd if you go by the dictionary definition.

I wish you well




FrostedFlake -> RE: BDSM and Oddness (6/23/2013 2:56:25 AM)

I gotta get me wunna them there 'Capped Nicks'. They look so cool!




nephandi -> RE: BDSM and Oddness (6/23/2013 3:41:28 AM)

Greetings

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I gotta get me wunna them there 'Capped Nicks'. They look so cool!


Hehehe, is not that the right word in English though, in Norway we just call them big and little letters so big H vs little h, I do belive capped it the term in English though if I am not completely mistaken?

I wish you well




littlewonder -> RE: BDSM and Oddness (6/23/2013 5:45:26 PM)

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No generally those of us who like to be called odd just do not care what others think of what we do. I mean I have no special need to be different, but I do not care if I am either.


I would not consider that odd. I would consider that typically normal. Most people think that unless they have self esteem issues. Otherwise, yeah, most people think that about themselves. Nothing odd about that imo. It just means you grew up.




AngelicScorpio -> RE: BDSM and Oddness (6/23/2013 6:47:39 PM)

Reading this thread made my brain hurt a little. Here's to celebrating and being odd, though!




nephandi -> RE: BDSM and Oddness (6/24/2013 10:29:22 AM)

Greetings

quote:

Reading this thread made my brain hurt a little. Here's to celebrating and being odd, though!


Amen to that. :D

I wish you well




slaveluci -> RE: BDSM and Oddness (6/24/2013 5:51:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1


quote:

ORIGINAL: slaveluci

Yes, we're all special, unique little snowflakes - just like every-one-else. If we are ALL unique, that's just not unique at all, is it? [8D]

luci


I realize you are trying to be snarky, but yes, actually, we are all special snowflakes, some of us more than others.

You didn't get the point about unique vs. odd I guess.

I get the point. I disagree. Not "trying" to be anything, just making my own point like you did. I think it is ludicrous when people crow about how unique they are. You are not unique. You are a human being with common characteristics with a billion other human beings. Just because you have one self-described uncommon feature and like something not many others like, doesn't make you (or me or anyone else) unique or "more special" than anyone else. That's just my view of it and it's just as valid as yours. But then, you know that already[;)]

luci




slaveluci -> RE: BDSM and Oddness (6/24/2013 5:54:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RemoteUser


quote:

ORIGINAL: slaveluci

Yes, we're all special, unique little snowflakes - just like every-one-else. If we are ALL unique, that's just not unique at all, is it? [8D]

luci


Every time I see this very old and tired cliche, I am reminded that the person's focus is on "special", and not "unique". Making the mistake that the two are interchangeable would validate the argument, but the fact is, one is a hierarchical measuring stick while the other is a mathematical representation.

The blur seems to come from the fact that both words can, in their own right, be synonymous with "distinct". Being socially and mathematically distinct are very different animals. I am in the upper echelon of the company that employs me, distinguishing me from the majority of the workers. My fingerprints are unique, distinguishing me from other human beings. Both make me distinct, the former being (arguably) "special", the latter being factually "unique".

That, and this line really strikes me as being an angry disclaimer towards individuality, which leads back to the OP. It is one thing to be individual; another, for that individuality to afford a ranking of distinction. I would love to be athletic. I am content being a decent writer. The social designation labels me in terms of where I fit in with others, but casts nothing on my own self-view (unless I allow it to). In plainer terms, being odd isn't all it's cracked up to be, depending on how it is applied by the individual to themselves. How it applies socially is society's business, and if it truly matters to the individual, it may influence their view and actions.

(This reminds me of the distinctions made amongst the classifications of nerd, geek and dork.)



And, again, I understand what all the terms you use mean. Sorry if you find it "old" or "cliché" but I find peoples' desire to be considered "unique" old, tired and cliché. See the post above for a further explanation. Christ, disagreeing with others doesn't make me snarky or cliché. It's my opinion, my viewpoint and dammit I'm unique and speshul just like you and every other human[8|]

luci




littlewonder -> RE: BDSM and Oddness (6/24/2013 6:04:42 PM)

Yeah I'm another one who doesn't believe people are all that unique or different and my views are pretty much in life with luci's. I find it kinda funny when people think they are somehow unique or odd when in reality there are billions of people in the world and most share pretty much the same commonalities.




littlewonder -> RE: BDSM and Oddness (6/25/2013 6:00:36 PM)

Most on here are pretty easy to decipher on who you know is gonna be all fluffy, sensitive like a little bunny rabbit. I find them pretty easy to pick out usually after just a couple of posts from there. Sometimes all it takes is one post.




tazzygirl -> RE: BDSM and Oddness (6/25/2013 6:16:00 PM)

.... the one's who initiate the attack and then claim the victimhood trophy.. yeah..see lots of them.




nephandi -> RE: BDSM and Oddness (6/26/2013 2:58:59 AM)

Greetings

quote:

I get the point. I disagree. Not "trying" to be anything, just making my own point like you did. I think it is ludicrous when people crow about how unique they are. You are not unique. You are a human being with common characteristics with a billion other human beings. Just because you have one self-described uncommon feature and like something not many others like, doesn't make you (or me or anyone else) unique or "more special" than anyone else. That's just my view of it and it's just as valid as yours. But then, you know that already


Saying that we are all unique is not the same as saying oneself is more special than everyone else. However the fact remain that while we as a species have common characteristics are not carbon copies of one another, there is no human being on this planet which is exactly the same as another and taking joy in that do not mean that one think one is more special than anyone else, nor do having an uncommon feature, interest or skill make one more special. However in this world where being different is generally frowned upon it takes courage to be able to say, yeah sure I enjoy being different, that do not make someone better than others, or more special, however I think that daring to be different and taking pride in that is a positive trait.

I wish you well




VideoAdminRho -> RE: BDSM and Oddness (6/26/2013 8:48:12 AM)

Locked for review




VideoAdminRho -> RE: BDSM and Oddness (6/26/2013 9:17:20 AM)

I have removed a number of posts that were Off Topic and replied or quoted pulled posts.

If you wish to continue to discuss poster attitudes, there's a thread in OT about that -all further comments should go to Mob Mentality and any further ones on this thread will be deleted and posters will get a warning.




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