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RE: Tear gas to inflict pain - 6/29/2013 9:08:50 AM   
MasterCaneman


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I think the problem we have here is language. When someone says "tear gas" to me, I automatically think "CS". If you're talking about civilian-grade "pepper spray", it's a wholly different thing. Capsaiscin isn't anywhere near as dangerous as the aforementioned substance in terms of damage to the mucous membranes and other body systems. For that I apologize.

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RE: Tear gas to inflict pain - 6/29/2013 9:18:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman

I think the problem we have here is language. When someone says "tear gas" to me, I automatically think "CS". If you're talking about civilian-grade "pepper spray", it's a wholly different thing. Capsaiscin isn't anywhere near as dangerous as the aforementioned substance in terms of damage to the mucous membranes and other body systems. For that I apologize.

Thats ok

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RE: Tear gas to inflict pain - 6/29/2013 3:07:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: hrxxx

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ORIGINAL: BambiBoi


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ORIGINAL: hrxxx

Conclusion of this thread is to me that there is some ignorance and that most find their information in questionable journals and wikipidia or they have fifth-hand information that is useless and a waste of space.
But I guess if you're a waste of space in real life, then you are probably also a waste of space on the web.


I think we've addressed the tear gas issue already.

I have a question for you, HRXXX. Why are you mean to people to don't agree with?

No one in this thread has said anything so remarkably stupid to be called a "waste of space in real life...and on the web." Some people have given very useful information that you disagreed with and completely disregarded.

You may not know this, but you're getting the reputation around here as someone who cannot be reasoned with or spoken to. Here is the summary of this thread from my eyes:

HRXXX: Tear gas for fun?
Other People: Sounds pretty dangerous.
Don't worry. I won't make her drink it or funnel it down her throat.
.... Here's my experience with CS gas....
Fine. I won't make her drink cups of tear gas liquid or gag her and leave her in a room with it.
So you don't want to acknowledge any of the hazards we warned you about, huh?
You're all ignorant and a waste of space.

You are now in a world where the only strength you have is your wisdom and ability to talk with people. We start here as equals. In my eyes, you gave up being a master when you were rude to me and my friends, boy.



Let's try to do a little research on tear gas! shall we?
What are the most common injuries from tear gas?
They are fractures and brain damage and the damage does not come from gas, but from grenades.
Can people die of tear gas?
Yes, and when they die from the use of tear gas, then it looks like this
How you die from tear gas
Why are they dying of Teargas?
Because they have no way of getting out of the gas, no matter where they run, there are gas, so if they have breathing problems, heart attacks, allergic reaction, etc. so there is a high risk of death.
These deaths occur in the Middle East, and in the third world countries, because they use a military tear gas, and they can pretty much do what suits them.
Police in europe and the united states use a less dangerous tear gas, and I have not heard of it have killed somebody yet,
Are police tear gas dangerous?
Yes it is dangerous.
Is there a high risk of dying from it?
Police in europe and the united states can not do as in the Middle East and third world countries, the risk of dying is minimal but it can happen.
Spay tear gas, the tear gas ordinary people can buy is not the same as the police use or military use, this is a much less dangerous tear gas. I do not know if you can purchased this in the United States, but in Europe it is very common, and i have never heard of anyone that has been injured, by this type of tear gas.
Is it dangerous?
Yes it is dangerous during extreme use.
Can you die from it?
Yes and it looks like this
sprayed to death
Everything that is used in extreme use, you can die from, now matter what you can think of,
in Europe if people start to die from, can spray gas it would not be sold very simpel.

Did i ask about blowing up grenades in my house? or in a girl's head?
Did i ask about cover my neighborhood in gas?
Did i ask about using an entire can of tear gas?
What kind of tear gas do you think i was talking about?

As I said, I have found something called chilli spray, and it seems more suitable for my purposes, if you want to see how it works, you can see it here
chilli spray

wikipidia information and fifth-hand information is not enough to begin to advise and guide others, every thread you can find in here, there is advice and guidance from people who have their information from wikipidia, questionable fifth-hand sources and they do not even check their information before they write a comment and it can be dangerous to advise on something you know nothing about.
Because I'm inexperienced in the use of tear gas in BDSM play is not the same as I know nothing about tear gas.
If you try to read the whole thread again, do you think there are any good usable information?
well i don `t

If a girl reads this thread, and she is so afraid that she throws her anti-rape tear gas out because she thinks it is very dangerous.
Will you feel responsible? If she is raped!

You can see me as you like, but I can not disagree with something that is not true!

If you want to read about the danger of BDSM can do so here
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Couple of things:

1)ikipidia information and fifth-hand information is not enough to begin to advise and guide others, every thread you can find in here, there is advice and guidance from people who have their information from wikipidia, questionable fifth-hand sources and they do not even check their information before they write a comment and it can be dangerous to advise on something you know nothing about."

That applies more to yourself, who are thinking of using tear gas in BD/SM play. The advice you were getting were from people advising against using tear gas, and it is kind of stupid to say it is dangerous to give advice from x hand sources, when they are advising not to do it....as far as I know, not doing something, like playing with tear gas or electrical stuff above the waist, is pretty damn safe since you can't get hurt from something you don't do (unless you were talking about inoculating kids against disease, where not doing it is dangerous).

2)If a girl reads this thread, and she is so afraid that she throws her anti-rape tear gas out because she thinks it is very dangerous.
Will you feel responsible? If she is raped!"

No, because no one told someone not to use it to protect themselves, they told you they wouldn't advise using it in scene play, and if you can't see the difference I would be really scared to be around you in play space. A woman using tear gas against someone attacking her is using it to protect herself, not get her rocks off as you want to, and in that case the danger to the person she is spraying it at is meaningless, other then those who insist criminals have more rights then victims. That would be like arguing that someone who used a gun in self defense was the same thing as someone playing russian roulette for the fun of it, there are two different things here. The rape victim, believe me, would rather not have to use her tear gas, it is a last resort, whereas in play you have alternatives. There was a discussion on here about guns in BD/SM play, and the point many people made was they felt doing so was taking unnecessary risks, others felt differently, but no one said if you are in danger, you shouldn't shoot the person posing the threat. Using guns or teargas in play is voluntary, you have a choice, when your life or limb is threatened it isn't a choice if you have a)get raped or b)use teargas.

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