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Aswad -> RE: Evils of colonialism and 'post-colonialism'. (6/27/2013 3:19:23 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
Well said.
Thanks.
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We don't have a problem with the Muslim religion, we have a problem *in* the muslim religion. Perhaps that sums it up. I think your post is fairly accurate Aswad, although with my study of history I am not as sanguine as you about the ease of assimilation.
It's not tied to Islam at all. We have the same problem with Somali Christians as with Somali Muslims, for instance.
As for assimilation, the bulk of our problem is that we've gone for a fairly high rate of- for lack of a better word- import. In a country of five million, we expect this decade to bring a million immigrants, without a good strategy for integration, and without any system of tiered citizenship or requirements of citizenship. These people clearly want to be here, and we could easily have required them to learn the language at minimum (or, failing that, English), but instead we have nothing other than our intensely homogenizing school system to do it (which breaks down when ethnic Europeans are a minority in many schools in the capital, for instance). Also, it's not kosher to single out problematic countries.
Slow down the stream to a trickle from the countries we have a problem with, and what we have will suffice.
Keep the current rate, and we're looking at the same problems Sweden has: no-go zones (we already have some, but they haven't yet reached the level that police refuse to go there), decaying zones (we're starting to see this in areas with immigrant majority populations, where the ethnic Europeans that have options choose to leave, and the ones left lack an interest in maintaining the community), and riots (that will take a while, but the seeds are there). That, unfortunately, is the current policy of the Labor Party.
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I certainly know that what I say will not be well accepted - and I will probably be labelled racist for not believing that all races are identical even though the proof is self evident and before our eyes.
Plenty of assertions can be made about different groups, but they tend to be at a statistical level, shifts in peaks, clustered points, that sort of thing.
I'm more concerned with individual merit than with nuancing collectivism to a tolerable margin of error.
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I don't see anything to make me more optimistic. In fact I am quite a great deal more pessimistic.
I didn't say I was optimistic. The Labor Party has a proven, crap track record of dealing with problems, of any sort.
I said the problem we're talking about isn't among the harder ones facing us.
IWYW,
— Aswad.
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