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The Plot Thickens - 6/25/2013 8:45:10 AM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		Turns out it was well known Afghanistan sat on trillions in oil, natural gas, and rare earth metals! So much so the Russians had built a pipeline OUT of Afghanistan long before they invaded. Its also well know Bush had meetings with the Taliban and sent them millions prior to 9/11.

So, if anyone wonders about our record for invadAfghan oiling non oil bearing.muslim states, its pretty much 100%. So, Syria is on her own and Lebanon was only to save israel...

Google Russian oil discovery afghanistan

Or

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-war-is-worth-waging-afghanistan-s-vast-reserves-of-minerals-and-natural-gas/19769

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RE: The Plot Thickens - 6/25/2013 9:02:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Turns out it was well known Afghanistan sat on trillions in oil, natural gas, and rare earth metals! So much so the Russians had built a pipeline OUT of Afghanistan long before they invaded. Its also well know Bush had meetings with the Taliban and sent them millions prior to 9/11.

So, if anyone wonders about our record for invadAfghan oiling non oil bearing.muslim states, its pretty much 100%. So, Syria is on her own and Lebanon was only to save israel...

Google Russian oil discovery afghanistan

Or

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-war-is-worth-waging-afghanistan-s-vast-reserves-of-minerals-and-natural-gas/19769

Check the article. It's natural gas and minerals, not oil. The oil pipeline that the Russkies were working on was a trans Afghanistan line, not from Afghanistan.
As for the other mineral wealth, the British knew about a lot of that at the end of the 19th century.

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RE: The Plot Thickens - 6/25/2013 9:04:44 AM   
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"More recently, in a 2002 report, the Kremlin confirmed what was already known: “It’s no secret that Afghanistan possesses rich reserves, in particular of copper at the Aynak deposit, iron ore in Khojagek, uranium, polymetalic ore, oil and gas,” (RIA Novosti, January 6, 2002):"

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RE: The Plot Thickens - 6/25/2013 9:25:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		William, you clearly just skimmed the article!

From another article about recently completed auctions of EXISTING PRODUCING OIL FIELDS...



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Most of the oil and gas fields were discovered in the 1970's during Soviet led exploration campaigns, the only exception being the Angot oil field within the Kashkari block that was discovered in 1959. Angot is also the only oil field to have been in sustained production in Afghanistan, according to the Ministry. It was, however, shut down in 2006 with estimated remaining reserves of 6MMbo.  

The size of the blocks offered and the remaining recoverable reserves are estimated as follows: Jangalikalan Block (1,999 km2): 19 Bm3 (0.67Tcf, 120MMboe), Juma-Bashikurd Block (1,861 km2): 33 Bm3 (1,2Tcf, 210MMboe),Kashkari Block (1,723 km2): 64.4MMbo (plus 143.8MMbo of possible reserves). However, the Ministry of Mines say they are "quite optimistic that the potential figures will be much bigger".  

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RE: The Plot Thickens - 6/25/2013 12:38:51 PM   
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If everyone knew that they wouldn't be able to charge $3 a gallon for it.

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RE: The Plot Thickens - 6/25/2013 3:12:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Turns out it was well known Afghanistan sat on trillions in oil, natural gas, and rare earth metals! So much so the Russians had built a pipeline OUT of Afghanistan long before they invaded. Its also well know Bush had meetings with the Taliban and sent them millions prior to 9/11.

So, if anyone wonders about our record for invadAfghan oiling non oil bearing.muslim states, its pretty much 100%. So, Syria is on her own and Lebanon was only to save israel...

Google Russian oil discovery afghanistan

Or

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-war-is-worth-waging-afghanistan-s-vast-reserves-of-minerals-and-natural-gas/19769


A war to make few bux?????say it aint so.

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RE: The Plot Thickens - 6/25/2013 3:22:58 PM   
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If everyone knew that they wouldn't be able to charge $3 a gallon for it.


We charge $7 a gallon for it here. Doesn't occasion much complaining.

Then again, the MPG figures are much higher here, too.

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RE: The Plot Thickens - 6/25/2013 3:37:35 PM   
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Then again, the MPG figures are much higher here, too.



Why?

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RE: The Plot Thickens - 6/25/2013 4:10:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		A war for profit as I have been saying for years now.

Caspian sea oil and gas pipelines are going in and being used as we type. That's why we will enter talks with the Taliban.

"Just leave the pipelines alone, ok ?" OK.

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RE: The Plot Thickens - 6/25/2013 6:01:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Unfortunately, the land above all that good stuff is occupied by people who prefer to be left alone to have wars with the tribe next door, and enjoy all the blessings of a 6th Century lifestyle.

Fuck 'em. Sell the whole goddamn place to the Chinese, and let them kill off their surplus population of young males extracting it.

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RE: The Plot Thickens - 6/25/2013 10:44:28 PM   
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Fuck 'em. Sell the whole goddamn place to the Chinese, and let them kill off their surplus population of young males extracting it.



There are certainly days when I wish it were that simple. Do you think we could get the Chinese to cancel our debts to them in exchange? That would make the whole damn thing worthwhile.

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RE: The Plot Thickens - 6/25/2013 11:17:50 PM   
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I don't believe that the president would ever do anything that's nefarious or mean-spirited or not completely above board and transparent.



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RE: The Plot Thickens - 6/26/2013 2:38:51 AM   
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RE: The Plot Thickens - 6/26/2013 6:05:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Rule, I would have agreed last week but not after doing some research. The interests of standard oil are a fair predictor of involvement.

The fact that oil was there, proven but kept out of thr news is fishy and being talked about as a surprising story is an odd coincidence.

Bush was in talks with the taliban prior to 9/11 about pipelines was well known.

Pakistan and saudi arabia staffed and funded 9/11

But we invade afganistan and iraq...

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RE: The Plot Thickens - 6/26/2013 7:45:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Why?


Having higher fuel prices makes the public care about the MPG rating of their cars, and we have a fairly modern car pool.

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RE: The Plot Thickens - 6/26/2013 2:13:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		hnever the less ,,,us or any other country have no right to have armed forses in afgahnistan or any other Place,,,

if its oil its just robbery with arms like a hold up,,,if its not ,,,just ordinary harassment,,,,

make a better choise when you wote in us please,,,

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RE: The Plot Thickens - 6/26/2013 4:53:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aswad

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

If everyone knew that they wouldn't be able to charge $3 a gallon for it.


We charge $7 a gallon for it here. Doesn't occasion much complaining.

Then again, the MPG figures are much higher here, too.

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Aswad, but those high prices help pay for the cradle to grave services and benefits you guys get in Europe. Six week vacations, spa visits, child care, free education and a bunch of other things that we just don't get in the U.S.

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RE: The Plot Thickens - 6/26/2013 8:56:47 PM   
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hnever the less ,,,us or any other country have no right to have armed forses in afgahnistan or any other Place,,,

if its oil its just robbery with arms like a hold up,,,if its not ,,,just ordinary harassment,,,,



And 9/11 never happened?

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RE: The Plot Thickens - 6/26/2013 8:59:53 PM   
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Unfortunately, the land above all that good stuff is occupied by people who prefer to be left alone to have wars with the tribe next door, and enjoy all the blessings of a 6th Century lifestyle.

Fuck 'em. Sell the whole goddamn place to the Chinese, and let them kill off their surplus population of young males extracting it.

It is their turn to have their empire and hearts broken. This should be quite a show.

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RE: The Plot Thickens - 6/27/2013 2:35:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aswad

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

If everyone knew that they wouldn't be able to charge $3 a gallon for it.


We charge $7 a gallon for it here. Doesn't occasion much complaining.

Then again, the MPG figures are much higher here, too.

IWYW,
— Aswad.




Isn't a large part of that $7 gas taxes and doesn't that help to fund your health care? Our gas taxes pay for our roads and IMHO the money is largely mismanaged.


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