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RE: Bravery and fortitude in Texas - 7/2/2013 4:54:45 PM   
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Well, hell, if a man didnt know in a year that wasnt his baby, his intelligence is severely lacking.


What do you think the punishment should be for stupidity and/or an excess of kindness towards a mother and her baby by a man, Tazzy?

This subject is ever so slightly beginning to fry my sense of morality. Just saying.

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RE: Bravery and fortitude in Texas - 7/2/2013 4:58:32 PM   
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I dont agree with men having to pay child support for a baby that isnt theirs.

I also think its bullshit that a man who has spent years raising a child suddenly stops caring for that child because he finds out its not his "blood" child. Which simply goes back to the fact that a sperm donor is a more appropriate term for some men.

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RE: Bravery and fortitude in Texas - 7/2/2013 5:31:34 PM   
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I also think its bullshit that a man who has spent years raising a child suddenly stops caring for that child because he finds out its not his "blood" child. Which simply goes back to the fact that a sperm donor is a more appropriate term for some men.


Point of info: I use 'blood child' deliberately because I want to avoid the old dichotomy of 'real father' versus 'foster father'. I've never thought 'real' meant a lot in that former case. For me the 'real father' is the the man who loves the kid and brings it up - if we have to use the word 'real'.

I don't think I'd stop caring for a child if I'd got used to caring for him/her, but had subsequently discovered that I wasn't the blood father. But I'd be hurt by that discovery - and I think I'd have a right to feel that way.

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RE: Bravery and fortitude in Texas - 7/2/2013 5:33:54 PM   
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RE: Bravery and fortitude in Texas - 7/2/2013 8:46:35 PM   
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Here's others.

http://www.annapolismdfamilylaw.com/2013/06/man-not-the-father-forced-to-pay-support-anyway.shtml
http://www.ejfi.org/family/family-91.htm
http://www.khou.com/news/Houston-man-forced-to-pay-child-support-for-child-that-DNA-proves-isnt-his-124472429.html



Thanks. I really hate doing people's research for them.

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RE: Bravery and fortitude in Texas - 7/2/2013 9:05:08 PM   
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Oops.. all court papers had to be signed for... even back then. No signature, no delivery, no court order.


And of course everything always happens the way it's supposed to. Now who's being naive?

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RE: Bravery and fortitude in Texas - 7/2/2013 9:11:27 PM   
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Well, hell, if a man didnt know in a year that wasnt his baby, his intelligence is severely lacking.


Kinda like how if a woman doesn't know she's pregnant by 20 weeks, her intelligence is severely lacking, hmm?

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RE: Bravery and fortitude in Texas - 7/3/2013 4:23:14 AM   
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Oops.. all court papers had to be signed for... even back then. No signature, no delivery, no court order.


And of course everything always happens the way it's supposed to. Now who's being naive?


And yet you are the one whining when it doesnt. Keep it in your pants and you wont have the problem of some woman aborting your baby.

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Kinda like how if a woman doesn't know she's pregnant by 20 weeks, her intelligence is severely lacking, hmm?


NOW you might, finally, be understanding something... doubtful... but there is always hope.

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RE: Bravery and fortitude in Texas - 7/3/2013 7:19:53 AM   
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And yet you are the one whining when it doesnt. Keep it in your pants and you wont have the problem of some woman aborting your baby.


Only when it allows someone to defraud someone else (fraud is a crime after all) and basically lie to the courts (another crime) and yet the one who pays for it is the man.

It's always the man.

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NOW you might, finally, be understanding something... doubtful... but there is always hope.


I understand that you want another life to pay the price for someone else's stupidity. But then you also seem to want the man to pay as well, even when it's not his mistake.

And this is why I know you'll never understand.

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RE: Bravery and fortitude in Texas - 7/3/2013 7:46:12 AM   
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Only when it allows someone to defraud someone else (fraud is a crime after all) and basically lie to the courts (another crime) and yet the one who pays for it is the man.

It's always the man.


Well, yeah, its pretty well known who the mother is. LOL Or are you wanting to now DNA every mom to ensure the baby who came out of her body is, in fact, her baby?

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I understand that you want another life to pay the price for someone else's stupidity. But then you also seem to want the man to pay as well, even when it's not his mistake.

And this is why I know you'll never understand.


Are you really this hell bent on forcing women to continue with a pregnancy.. to the point you ignore posts made that are clearly contrary to your position?

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4485971



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RE: Bravery and fortitude in Texas - 7/3/2013 8:46:28 PM   
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Well, yeah, its pretty well known who the mother is. LOL Or are you wanting to now DNA every mom to ensure the baby who came out of her body is, in fact, her baby?


This makes zero sense as a reply to what I said. It's quite obvious who the mother is. But that doesn't give her the right to LIE to the courts about who the FATHER is and DEFRAUD him out of thousands of dollars. Is that clear enough? I capped the important parts just for you. Hopefully that helps with reading comprehension.


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Are you really this hell bent on forcing women to continue with a pregnancy.. to the point you ignore posts made that are clearly contrary to your position?


I'm hell bent on preventing a woman from putting responsibility, blame and punishment for her mistakes on others.

Once again, for comprehension assistance... 20 weeks ought to be plenty of time to decide whether or not to abort, especially since you've admitted to only quibbling over an extra week or two.

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RE: Bravery and fortitude in Texas - 7/3/2013 9:13:17 PM   
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This makes zero sense as a reply to what I said. It's quite obvious who the mother is. But that doesn't give her the right to LIE to the courts about who the FATHER is and DEFRAUD him out of thousands of dollars. Is that clear enough? I capped the important parts just for you. Hopefully that helps with reading comprehension.


1 - YOU are ASSUMING she LIED.
2 - never fucked more than one person at a time?
3 - Motherhood is never in question
4 - Fatherhood is always in question
5 - Which is why father's get tested.
6 - Thats why its the man who is dragged into court.
7 - btw, many women also pay child support

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I'm hell bent on preventing a woman from putting responsibility, blame and punishment for her mistakes on others.


Keep it in your pants or get it snipped and you wont have that problem.

Problem solved.

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Once again, for comprehension assistance... 20 weeks ought to be plenty of time to decide whether or not to abort, especially since you've admitted to only quibbling over an extra week or two.


Tell ya what... go get the law changed. Put on your happy go lucky clothes... grab your condom... and go get the laws changed.

You have that right, by golly!

Take out the right to have an abortion because some girl's father has been fucking her while she was 12.

Take out a woman's right to have an abortion while held in a relationship where she was threatened or simply coudl NOT get away.

Take out a woman's right to have an abortion because continuing the pregnancy may kill her....

Go get em Tiger!!!

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RE: Bravery and fortitude in Texas - 7/3/2013 10:58:54 PM   
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1 - YOU are ASSUMING she LIED.
2 - never fucked more than one person at a time?
3 - Motherhood is never in question
4 - Fatherhood is always in question
5 - Which is why father's get tested.
6 - Thats why its the man who is dragged into court.
7 - btw, many women also pay child support


I didn't assume a damned thing, darlin'. I'm talking documented cases where a woman has lied to get support from someone who was not the father. I'm talking about documented cases where a man was made to continue paying despite DNA proof he was not the father.

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Keep it in your pants or get it snipped and you wont have that problem.

Problem solved.


Good advice for the sluts who whore around and then have to try and guess who the dad is.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Take out the right to have an abortion because some girl's father has been fucking her while she was 12.

Take out a woman's right to have an abortion while held in a relationship where she was threatened or simply coudl NOT get away.

Take out a woman's right to have an abortion because continuing the pregnancy may kill her...


Are you delusional or just deliberately trying to use a smokescreen?

I'm talking about lying sluts making men pay for kids who aren't theirs and you're suggesting I'm against abortion for all cases.

Talk about assuming things. Funny thing is, I never once said I was against abortion in all cases. In fact, I've replied to many a thread where I said if I had a girlfriend or wife who was raped that I would drive her to the clinic myself.

These *emotional* outburst statements are sad attempts to try and change the subject. And you still haven't addressed the fact that you admitted to quibbling over a lousy 2 weeks (the bill says 20 weeks, you want 22).

Once again, I'm referring to lying women defrauding men out of child support. I'm talking about normal, non-captive women who wait 5 MONTHS to decide if they want to abort a child.

I am *not* (I'll repeat NOT) talking about the three, exceptional types of cases you mentioned.

Now put your rational, non-emotional panties on and focus on the issue at hand instead if *emotionally* trying to obfuscate my point with things I'm not talking about.

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RE: Bravery and fortitude in Texas - 7/3/2013 11:17:53 PM   
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I didn't assume a damned thing, darlin'. I'm talking documented cases where a woman has lied to get support from someone who was not the father. I'm talking about documented cases where a man was made to continue paying despite DNA proof he was not the father.


And I had already said they shouldnt have to pay once its discovered... something you conveniently overlooked in your zealous attempt to be "right".

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Good advice for the sluts who whore around and then have to try and guess who the dad is.


Upset because they can now whore around like men? Your hatred of women is quite obvious.

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Are you delusional or just deliberately trying to use a smokescreen?

I'm talking about lying sluts making men pay for kids who aren't theirs and you're suggesting I'm against abortion for all cases.


The bill which is the OP IS saying that.. or did that miss your notice?

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Talk about assuming things. Funny thing is, I never once said I was against abortion in all cases. In fact, I've replied to many a thread where I said if I had a girlfriend or wife who was raped that I would drive her to the clinic myself.


If this bill passes, you wont be able too in Texas.

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These *emotional* outburst statements are sad attempts to try and change the subject. And you still haven't addressed the fact that you admitted to quibbling over a lousy 2 weeks (the bill says 20 weeks, you want 22).


Oddly enough, 2 weeks can make the difference to fetal development. Get your medical degree then come back and we can discuss what you feel is "no difference".

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Once again, I'm referring to lying women defrauding men out of child support. I'm talking about normal, non-captive women who wait 5 MONTHS to decide if they want to abort a child.


Do you have any clue exactly what you are talking about? Honestly. 20 weeks, or your 5 months, can actually be 18 weeks or 22. Who are you to determine when a woman can safely abort? Who are you to decide what is in the best interest of that woman and her family? Who are you to push YOUR morality onto anyone else?

Maybe, instead of demanding these women not get abortions, you start paying for all the babies they dont abort. Then I can see your bitch.

But you want it both ways. No, you cant get an abortion. No, I wont pay for your mistakes. Guess what, you pay for every baby that wasnt aborted through your taxes. Try that on for size. Tell me how that feels.

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I am *not* (I'll repeat NOT) talking about the three, exceptional types of cases you mentioned.


This law is.. and you are supporting this law. Two of the three conditions you would allow, the Texas law does not. So you are supporting the suppression of those two conditions.

Hypocrite much?

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RE: Bravery and fortitude in Texas - 7/3/2013 11:47:59 PM   
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And I had already said they shouldnt have to pay once its discovered... something you conveniently overlooked in your zealous attempt to be "right".


They shouldn't have to, but they have been made to. And since you liked to throw out your cliched line about men having no say until they can have babies, I chose to counter your cliche with reasons why men absolutely should have a say.

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Upset because they can now whore around like men? Your hatred of women is quite obvious.


Of course not, because whoring around is such an attractive quality in a lady.

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The bill which is the OP IS saying that.. or did that miss your notice?

If this bill passes, you wont be able too in Texas.


Then focus on the rape clause. Don't argue with me over two measly weeks.

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Oddly enough, 2 weeks can make the difference to fetal development. Get your medical degree then come back and we can discuss what you feel is "no difference".


Right, because the 1st Amendment requires a degree in a specified field before being exercised. Suuuure.

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Do you have any clue exactly what you are talking about? Honestly. 20 weeks, or your 5 months, can actually be 18 weeks or 22. Who are you to determine when a woman can safely abort? Who are you to decide what is in the best interest of that woman and her family? Who are you to push YOUR morality onto anyone else?


Yeah yeah and up can be down and black can be white and c-a-t can spell dog. The choice to abort should still be an important enough decision not to wait until the last minute.

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Maybe, instead of demanding these women not get abortions, you start paying for all the babies they dont abort. Then I can see your bitch.


Again, sweetie, I'm not demanding they don't abort. I'm saying if they intend to abort, they should do it when it's not yet a baby. Waiting and procrastinating such an important decision is stupid.

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But you want it both ways. No, you cant get an abortion. No, I wont pay for your mistakes. Guess what, you pay for every baby that wasnt aborted through your taxes. Try that on for size. Tell me how that feels.


Actually I don't want it both ways. That's a fallacy. Not wanting a childless father to pay child support has nothing to do with the rest of it. This entire statement is predicated on a fallacy because, again, I never said I'm against abortion. I did, however, say the choice should not be casually made at the last minute.

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This law is.. and you are supporting this law. Two of the three conditions you would allow, the Texas law does not. So you are supporting the suppression of those two conditions.

Hypocrite much?


Not a hypocrite at all, because again you are wrong. My original post indicated nothing about supporting this bill. I don't give a rat's ass if it passes or not. However, the pro-choice crowd really makes it hard to be on their side when the big issue they cling to is the 20 weeks thing as opposed to the rape clause.






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RE: Bravery and fortitude in Texas - 7/4/2013 9:06:37 AM   
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They shouldn't have to, but they have been made to. And since you liked to throw out your cliched line about men having no say until they can have babies, I chose to counter your cliche with reasons why men absolutely should have a say.


Until you have proven the fetus is yours, you have no say.

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Of course not, because whoring around is such an attractive quality in a lady.


Of course it is... its just the type of woman you are looking for.

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Then focus on the rape clause. Don't argue with me over two measly weeks.
Right, because the 1st Amendment requires a degree in a specified field before being exercised. Suuuure.


Nothing to do with the 1at Amendment... and everything to do with ignorance.

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Yeah yeah and up can be down and black can be white and c-a-t can spell dog. The choice to abort should still be an important enough decision not to wait until the last minute.


In your opinion.. and.. in this... thankfully... a woman doesnt have to have your opinion.

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Again, sweetie, I'm not demanding they don't abort. I'm saying if they intend to abort, they should do it when it's not yet a baby. Waiting and procrastinating such an important decision is stupid.


And here you are showing your ignorance on this topic again. Its not a "baby" or an "infant" until its born.

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Not a hypocrite at all, because again you are wrong. My original post indicated nothing about supporting this bill. I don't give a rat's ass if it passes or not. However, the pro-choice crowd really makes it hard to be on their side when the big issue they cling to is the 20 weeks thing as opposed to the rape clause.


Honey, darling, sweetiepie, babydoll, pumpkin....

We dont need you on our side.

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RE: Bravery and fortitude in Texas - 7/4/2013 9:21:56 PM   
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Until you have proven the fetus is yours, you have no say.


Kinda hard to have a say once the thing's been aborted. By then it's too late.

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Of course it is... its just the type of woman you are looking for.


No, but sadly it's all that's left these days as real ladies are quickly becoming extinct.

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Nothing to do with the 1at Amendment... and everything to do with ignorance.


Wrong again. According to the "1at" Amendment, I can express whatever opinion I want. No degree required.

But you've got the ignorance part handled for both of us. So I'll let you have that.

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In your opinion.. and.. in this... thankfully... a woman doesnt have to have your opinion.


She sure doesn't. But thankfully not every woman shares yours, or there'd be a rash of child murders in this country.


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And here you are showing your ignorance on this topic again. Its not a "baby" or an "infant" until its born.


Wrong again. In many municipalities, someone who injures a woman and causes the death of her unborn child, they tack on another murder or manslaughter charge.

You can't have it both ways.

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Honey, darling, sweetiepie, babydoll, pumpkin....

We dont need you on our side.


Awwww. You don't like those nicknames? Don't want to be called names, don't call names. Now who's the hypocrite?

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RE: Bravery and fortitude in Texas - 7/4/2013 9:37:12 PM   
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Wrong again. In many municipalities, someone who injures a woman and causes the death of her unborn child, they tack on another murder or manslaughter charge.

You can't have it both ways.


baby

Type: Term

Pronunciation: bā′bē
Definitions:
1. An infant; a newborn child.

http://www.medilexicon.com/medicaldictionary.php?t=9072

Fetus:
Medical term for the baby before it is born, ie when still in the uterus

http://www.baby2see.com/medical/medical_terms.html

fetus /fe·tus/ (fēt´us) [L.] the developing young in the uterus, specifically the unborn offspring in the postembryonic period, in humans from nine weeks after fertilization until birth.

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/fetus

embryo /em·bryo/ (em´bre-o)
1. in animals, those derivatives of the zygote that eventually become the offspring, during their period of most rapid growth, i.e., from the time the long axis appears until all major structures are represented.
2. in humans, the developing organism from fertilization to the end of the eighth week. Cf. fetus.

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/embryo

Get some medical knowledge.

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Awwww. You don't like those nicknames? Don't want to be called names, don't call names. Now who's the hypocrite?


Aw darlin, its a way of life for me.

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Wrong again. According to the "1at" Amendment, I can express whatever opinion I want. No degree required.

But you've got the ignorance part handled for both of us. So I'll let you have that.


I at least know the difference between an embryo, a fetus, a newborn and a baby.

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RE: Bravery and fortitude in Texas - 7/4/2013 10:26:43 PM   
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A fetus is typically defined as a developing human at a certain point after conception to birth.


http://definitions.uslegal.com/f/fetus/

Many states use the terms "unborn child" or "fetus/embryo".

Viability has always followed medical application, including the Supreme Court.

They prefer criminalizing an assault on a pregnant woman and recognizing her as the only victim.
Currently, at least 38 states have fetal homicide laws. The states include: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin. At least 23 states have fetal homicide laws that apply to the earliest stages of pregnancy ("any state of gestation," "conception," "fertilization" or "post-fertilization"); these are indicated below with an asterisk



13 states use fetus...

Wis. Stat. § 940.04 (2) et seq. declare that any person who intentionally destroys the life of an unborn quick child or causes the death of the mother by an act done with intent to destroy the life of an unborn child is guilty of homicide. It is unnecessary to prove that the fetus was alive when the act so causing the mother's death was committed.

Many more use both.... Its well known, to most that is... that a fetus is within the womb... child outside of it. When the "child" is born dead, its a fetal demise... not a dead child. They are given a "fetal death certificate"....

http://www.odh.ohio.gov/vitalstatistics/vitalmisc/fetaldth.aspx

The legal definition of "fetal death" means: "death prior to the complete expulsion or extraction from its mother of a product of human conception... which after such expulsion or extraction does not breathe or show any other evidence of life such as beating of the heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles."

So, do go on about how I dont understand the law.

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