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tazzygirl -> RE: Republican Readies Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriage (6/29/2013 4:59:22 AM)
~FR Paul Rand.... Kentucky "This is a conundrum, and it gets back to what you were saying …whether or not churches should decide this," Paul said. "And it is difficult, because if we have no laws on this, people take it to one extension further. Does it have to be humans?" While he later stated that comment was sarcastic, I truly wonder if he knows that bestiality isnt illegal in some states? Of the following states, they make illegal gay marriage yet not bestiality. Alabama Texas Virginia New Mexico New Jersey Ohio West Virginia Wyoming Kentucky Montana Nevada Hawaii I just find that so.... interesting.

DomKen -> RE: Republican Readies Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriage (6/29/2013 5:11:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SadistDave I submit that if the GOP manages to hold the House and regain the Senate in 2014, there is a very real chance that a ban on gay marriage could become a reality. Since not all of the states who recognize gay marriage do so by choice, an amendment could concievably be ratified by enough states to pass. For instance in California, the ban on gay marriage was voted into law by the majority of the citizens and overturned by the court. If put to a popular vote for a Constitutional Amendment, Californians would probably once again support the ban. -SD- The polling says otherwise. BTW amendments are not put to popular vote. The individual state houses vote. So the only state where marriage equality exists that might support the amendment is Iowa.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Republican Readies Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriage (6/29/2013 8:25:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl ~FR Paul Rand.... Kentucky "This is a conundrum, and it gets back to what you were saying …whether or not churches should decide this," Paul said. "And it is difficult, because if we have no laws on this, people take it to one extension further. Does it have to be humans?" I wonder how many of these stupid fucks don't understand that marriage is a contract and only HUMANS who are of legal age and of sound mind may enter into a contract. If it weren't a contract, then why does it require a court order to dissolve one?[8\|]

vincentML -> RE: Republican Readies Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriage (6/29/2013 8:32:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl ~FR Paul Rand.... Kentucky "This is a conundrum, and it gets back to what you were saying …whether or not churches should decide this," Paul said. "And it is difficult, because if we have no laws on this, people take it to one extension further. Does it have to be humans?" I wonder how many of these stupid fucks don't understand that marriage is a contract and only HUMANS who are of legal age and of sound mind may enter into a contract. If it weren't a contract, then why does it require a court order to dissolve one?[8\|] Yeah really! Who ever met an 18 year old goat? [:D]

tazzygirl -> RE: Republican Readies Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriage (6/29/2013 8:47:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl ~FR Paul Rand.... Kentucky "This is a conundrum, and it gets back to what you were saying …whether or not churches should decide this," Paul said. "And it is difficult, because if we have no laws on this, people take it to one extension further. Does it have to be humans?" I wonder how many of these stupid fucks don't understand that marriage is a contract and only HUMANS who are of legal age and of sound mind may enter into a contract. If it weren't a contract, then why does it require a court order to dissolve one?[8\|] Honest answer? The consider gay people to be little more than rutting animals with no morals, no conscious, no self control and no ability to think beyond their sexual organs.

Moonhead -> RE: Republican Readies Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriage (6/29/2013 11:44:56 AM)
Which is one of the main reasons for the horror of gay marriage: if the homosexuals can get into a legally recognised lifelong (or at least solid until divorce) relationship, then how can the right keep claiming that they're all promisucous swine with no self control who want to fuck your kids and give them AIDS?

Hillwilliam -> RE: Republican Readies Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriage (6/29/2013 11:57:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Honest answer? The consider gay people to be little more than rutting animals with no morals, no conscious, no self control and no ability to think beyond their sexual organs. B-b-b-b-but I'm straight.[8D]

DaddySatyr -> RE: Republican Readies Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriage (6/29/2013 12:14:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl ~FR Paul Rand.... Kentucky "This is a conundrum, and it gets back to what you were saying …whether or not churches should decide this," Paul said. "And it is difficult, because if we have no laws on this, people take it to one extension further. Does it have to be humans?" I wonder how many of these stupid fucks don't understand that marriage is a contract and only HUMANS who are of legal age and of sound mind may enter into a contract. If it weren't a contract, then why does it require a court order to dissolve one?[8\|] Yeah really! Who ever met an 18 year old goat? [:D] Unfortunately, Rand is correct. It's like when a newb asks: "Does anyone here ...?" The answer is always: "Yes!" because *someone* does. There was a guy, some years ago that wanted permission to marry his horse. I know it went to court and I'm not sure but I think it was allowed. So, there are people that take it to the Nth °. Obviously, that's unacceptable. I, for one, would like to see just about all restrictions removed and I'd like to see the government completely out of the "marriage game". I don't want them defining "love". I guess, to be fair, it would be okay (to me) if they were to ill-define it to some degree. I think we could legislate against bestiality and incest, pretty easily but that's only because a vast majority of us feel it's wrong. Yeah, Rand is, technically, correct as it's already happened, before. Peace and comfort, Michael

tazzygirl -> RE: Republican Readies Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriage (6/29/2013 12:18:58 PM)
~FR Anyone else think its absolutely hilarious to believe a goat can enter a legal contract? quote: There was a guy, some years ago that wanted permission to marry his horse. A Jerry Springer episode. That answers a lot of questions.

tazzygirl -> RE: Republican Readies Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriage (6/29/2013 12:20:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Honest answer? The consider gay people to be little more than rutting animals with no morals, no conscious, no self control and no ability to think beyond their sexual organs. B-b-b-b-but I'm straight.[8D] Are you sure? You could just be in denial.

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Republican Readies Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriage (6/29/2013 12:29:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl ~FR Anyone else think its absolutely hilarious to believe a goat can enter a legal contract? quote: There was a guy, some years ago that wanted permission to marry his horse. A Jerry Springer episode. That answers a lot of questions. From Wiki (if you can believe this stuff) - quote: Horse In some parts of Celtic Ireland, sudan (often called "sacred kings") had to wed the local goddess of the land. A druidess was usually chosen to represent the land goddess as the king's wife, but one king in Donegal married a horse, a representative of their local goddess. May 1998 – The Jerry Springer Show had an episode titled "I Married a Horse!". The show was ultimately not aired by many stations on the planned date, apparently due to concerns about the acceptability of broadcasting an episode in which a man admitted to a long term emotional and sexual relationship of this kind. The man and his horse later participated in a British documentary on the subject. Dog June 2003 – A nine year old Indian girl of the Santal (or 'Santhal') tribe of Khanyhan, near Calcutta was formally married to a dog, in order to ward off a bad omen. The wedding was attended by more than one hundred guests, who danced to the beating of drums and drank home-made liquor. The girl told Western press, "I have no regret in marrying the dog Bacchan. I am fond of the dog who moves around our locality (translation [sic])" and tribal elders added she was free to remarry a human in future as an adult. November 2007 – A man in southern India married a female dog in a traditional Hindu ceremony as an attempt to atone for stoning two other dogs to death – an act he believes cursed him. Selvakumar, 33, told the paper he had been suffering since he stoned two dogs to death and hung their bodies from a tree 15 years prior. February 2009 – An infant boy was married off to his neighbors' dog in eastern India by villagers who said it will stop the groom from being killed by wild animals. The boy will still be able to marry a human bride in the future without filing for divorce. November 2010 – A young Toowoomba, Queensland man tied the knot with his best friend – a five-year-old labrador. Goat Main article: Sudanese goat marriage incident February 2006 – A Sudanese man named Charles Tombe caught having sex with a neighbour's goat which was subsequently nicknamed Rose, was ordered by the council of elders to pay the neighbour a dowry of 15,000 Sudanese dinars ($75) and marry the animal. Snake June 2006 – An Indian woman from Bhubaneswar, Orissa, fell in love with a snake and was married to it at a "traditional Hindu wedding celebrated by 2,000 guests". She claimed that a bond of understanding existed between the two. The woman had previously been ill, and recovered upon offering milk to the snake, at which time she fell in love. She later "converted to the animal-loving vegetarian Vaishnav sect whose local elders gave her permission to marry the cobra.". An investigation by Harper's magazine journalist Mischa Berlinski suggests that the snake may not even exist at all and that the incident may have been stage-managed as part of a local power struggle between Vaishnav religious leaders.

ThatDaveGuy69 -> RE: Republican Readies Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriage (6/29/2013 12:32:40 PM)
The fundies LOVE to trot out the "animal" strawman. Makes me wonder just what's on their minds... They always have to find the most extreme, albeit ficticious, argument they can. Since they can't just say "the buybull says so!" they have to make up shit - the boogie man is everywhere - if we allow This then someone will demand That! Fortunately, it doesn't work that way. And frankly, I love seeing all these butthurt xians boo-hoo-hoing all over the place - it's kinda fund to watch :D

DaddySatyr -> RE: Republican Readies Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriage (6/29/2013 12:33:27 PM)
If the guy on Springer was from Roanoke, Virginia it might be the same one but this guy went to the courthouse to file for a marriage license. Juts because Springer, the 90s answer to P.T.Barnum picked up on it, doesn't mean it didn't happen or it was planned. Of course, it's always easier to ridicule and be dismissive than to participate in in discussion. It's why some people live in oblivion. Peace and comfort, Michael

Hillwilliam -> RE: Republican Readies Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriage (6/29/2013 12:33:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Honest answer? The consider gay people to be little more than rutting animals with no morals, no conscious, no self control and no ability to think beyond their sexual organs. B-b-b-b-but I'm straight.[8D] Are you sure? You could just be in denial. Can't be. I've never even been to Egypt.

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Republican Readies Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriage (6/29/2013 12:39:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Can't be. I've never even been to Egypt. [sm=Groaner.gif] Sometimes Hilly, you just crack me up!! [:D]

smartsub10 -> RE: Republican Readies Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriage (6/29/2013 12:40:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl ~FR Paul Rand.... Kentucky "This is a conundrum, and it gets back to what you were saying …whether or not churches should decide this," Paul said. "And it is difficult, because if we have no laws on this, people take it to one extension further. Does it have to be humans?" While he later stated that comment was sarcastic, I truly wonder if he knows that bestiality isnt illegal in some states? Of the following states, they make illegal gay marriage yet not bestiality. Alabama Texas Virginia New Mexico New Jersey Ohio West Virginia Wyoming Kentucky Montana Nevada Hawaii I just find that so.... interesting. New Jersey you say? That explains the creepy dudes who write me and tell me that their Great Dane or Rottweiler is going to be part of the D/s relationship they have with a sub. [:D]

tazzygirl -> RE: Republican Readies Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriage (6/29/2013 12:48:30 PM)
Uh huh.. I saw those. How many in the US?

tazzygirl -> RE: Republican Readies Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriage (6/29/2013 12:58:59 PM)
~FR Man marries horse! Film at eleven.... UP: 8/2/03 Ervule Ditmer, of Roanoke, Virginia, has taken the first step toward redefining the institution of marriage. Ditmer has filed with the local justice of the peace for a marriage certificate, but in this case, it is not to marry his highschool sweetheart, but his horse, Larry. The filing has been put on indefinite hold until the legal particulars can be hashed out. Ditmer, who owns a small engine repair business, is also a part time preacher at one of Roanoke's many charismatic churches which have popped up across Virginia like mushrooms. "I am simply reacting to the recent supreme court decision allowing sodomy in the state of Texas", says Ditmer, "and it appears that marriage between two men, or two women will soon be legal, so I figured it would be o.k. for me to marry my favorite horse, Larry". "If God had wanted gay marriage, we'd have had Adam and Steve in the garden of Eden, instead of Adam and Eve", Ditmer went on to say. When asked if his impending inter-species union was serious, or just a political stunt to make a point on morality, Ditmer said, "I'm dead serious, the love I feel for my horse Larry is real, and he loves me too". "And if anyone has any reason why I should not be happily married to my horse, let him now come forward, or forever hold his peace". Ditmer continued, "The fact that my horse and I are of the same sex is really irrelevant. We are two souls, who've met and fallen in love and we just want to be recognized by society, with full benefits of marriage laws, and not seen as sinful degenerates". Larry, the 9 year old apaloosa, had no comment for the press. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x64762 Funny thing is... no link to the story... no credit to the writer... only found on message boards. And, of course, Larry had no comment. ~smirks Unless someone can find a credible citation, I am calling bullshit on this one.

Moonhead -> RE: Republican Readies Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriage (6/29/2013 1:15:12 PM)
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MrRodgers -> RE: Republican Readies Constitutional Amendment To Ban Gay Marriage (6/29/2013 2:15:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic It requires the support of two-thirds of the House and Senate, and ratification by three-fourths of the states, or 38 states. Would that suffice to override a Presidential veto? Presidents can't veto a proposed constitutional amendment. When it comes to amending the constitution, the executive branch is out of the loop as it were. 'Amended' to acknowledge also that I didn't see the other rejoinders for this question.

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