BitYakin
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"We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal and are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. Among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness"
If you wish to move someplace where that document doesn't apply, please feel free to do so.
The issue deprives no one of their life, their liberty,which leaves the pursuit of happiness. As a legal institution, marriage can be regulated. However, marriage is not a Constitutional right. But since you erroneously believe that it is, consider that the Constitutional right to own a firearm is regulated. The Constitutional right to free speech is regulated. The Constitutional rights against unlawful search and seizure are regulated. Come to think of it.... every Constitutional right has some sort of regulations that govern how those rights may be enjoyed by citizens without infringing on the rights of the majority.
The right to marry however, is not a Constitutional right. It is considered a "fundamental" right that has been ruled as a right by the Supreme Court. Interestingly enough, EVERY "fundamental" right is also regulated. Regulation defines how one may pursue happiness, and we are all equal under the law to pursue happiness within the guidelines of regulation.
Clearly, in the real world, marriage has been, and will continue to be regulated. So if you know of somewhere in the real world where rights are not limited or regulated in some way, perhaps you should move there. If such a place existed in the real world, I don't think you'd last 5 minutes...
-SD-
What part of "All men are created equal" are you not getting?
Would not the ability to marry be considered "The pursuit of happiness"?
You are singling out people based the fact that they prefer to enter into a civil contract with someone that your religion doesn't approve of.
As for my not lasting 5 minutes, what do you base that utter asswipe on?
You keep bringing up the Constitution. My quote was from an older, more important and unalterable document known as "The Declaration of Independence"
I'll take First Grade American History Jeff 
I disagree that the declaration of indpendance is "more important" than the consitution
while it is a beautiful and important document, in essance all it really is just a statment that they had decided to break ties with england, once those were broken the constitition was written to define the sentiments expressed in the prior document
so the DOI declares we are going to make new rules, and the constitution declares these ARE the NEW RULES!
in a way the DOI is like saying "we are going to the store" but it doesn't tell what exactly we are going to buy at the store, it gives generalties, like groceries, but doesn't stipulate what the exact items will be, wether we are going to buy hunt's ketup or hienze ketup. the constitution on the other hand says we are going to buy ketup and it SPECIFIES that we prefer the more tangy kectup of hunts over the sweeter hienze!
a good example of this would be that whole church and state issue, at the time MANY founding fathers thought there should be a tax levied against people to support the church, while many others were against it, the DOI addressed no such issue. that issue was decided well after the DOI was written, in the constitution!
again DOI we are going to the store to get groceries, constitution, these are the specific groceries we intend to get!
< Message edited by BitYakin -- 7/7/2013 1:00:34 PM >
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