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popeye1250 -> "The Dissapearing Generals." (6/30/2013 1:47:37 PM)
http://www.ijreview.com/2013/06/62053-president-obamas-purge-military-officers-replaced-by-the-commander-in-chief/ It's just a matter of time before these Generals and Admirals are brought before congress and put under oath. I wonder what's going to happen then?

kdsub -> RE: "The Dissapearing Generals." (6/30/2013 1:52:45 PM)
Goddamn Allen disgraced the Corps... to bad he will not face a firing squad. Butch

DomKen -> RE: "The Dissapearing Generals." (6/30/2013 2:03:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 http://www.ijreview.com/2013/06/62053-president-obamas-purge-military-officers-replaced-by-the-commander-in-chief/ It's just a matter of time before these Generals and Admirals are brought before congress and put under oath. I wonder what's going to happen then? The Congress will be laughed at. The President is Commander and Chief of the armed forces. If he doesn't like the way a flag officer is performing his duties he can remove him at any time. See Truman and MacAuthur as well as Lincoln and about a dozen different generals.

popeye1250 -> RE: "The Dissapearing Generals." (6/30/2013 2:14:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 http://www.ijreview.com/2013/06/62053-president-obamas-purge-military-officers-replaced-by-the-commander-in-chief/ It's just a matter of time before these Generals and Admirals are brought before congress and put under oath. I wonder what's going to happen then? The Congress will be laughed at. The President is Commander and Chief of the armed forces. If he doesn't like the way a flag officer is performing his duties he can remove him at any time. See Truman and MacAuthur as well as Lincoln and about a dozen different generals. DomKen, you are correct sir! But now that they are retired they no longer have to answer to him, do they?

jlf1961 -> RE: "The Dissapearing Generals." (6/30/2013 3:09:52 PM)
Considering the article reads like so much conspiracy crap, and sense each of these Generals were involved in unethical behavior, and in one case, a complete disregard for the office of the President, none of the charges were trumped up. Now, since Hastings car was taken over by a CIA operative and driven by remote control in such a manner as to cause the fatal accident... I cant keep writing with a straight face.

DomKen -> RE: "The Dissapearing Generals." (6/30/2013 3:17:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 http://www.ijreview.com/2013/06/62053-president-obamas-purge-military-officers-replaced-by-the-commander-in-chief/ It's just a matter of time before these Generals and Admirals are brought before congress and put under oath. I wonder what's going to happen then? The Congress will be laughed at. The President is Commander and Chief of the armed forces. If he doesn't like the way a flag officer is performing his duties he can remove him at any time. See Truman and MacAuthur as well as Lincoln and about a dozen different generals. DomKen, you are correct sir! But now that they are retired they no longer have to answer to him, do they? And what do you think a bunch of disgraced generals will have to say that is at relevant to anything? Petraeus is lucky to not be in jail for leaking classified material to his mistress. McChrystal was caught being grossly insubordinate. Allen was trying to instigate an adulterous affair.

popeye1250 -> RE: "The Dissapearing Generals." (6/30/2013 3:32:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 http://www.ijreview.com/2013/06/62053-president-obamas-purge-military-officers-replaced-by-the-commander-in-chief/ It's just a matter of time before these Generals and Admirals are brought before congress and put under oath. I wonder what's going to happen then? The Congress will be laughed at. The President is Commander and Chief of the armed forces. If he doesn't like the way a flag officer is performing his duties he can remove him at any time. See Truman and MacAuthur as well as Lincoln and about a dozen different generals. DomKen, you are correct sir! But now that they are retired they no longer have to answer to him, do they? And what do you think a bunch of disgraced generals will have to say that is at relevant to anything? Petraeus is lucky to not be in jail for leaking classified material to his mistress. McChrystal was caught being grossly insubordinate. Allen was trying to instigate an adulterous affair. Domken, somehow I don't think the congress will be asking them about those things under oath. I think they'll be asking them about,.....other things.

DomKen -> RE: "The Dissapearing Generals." (6/30/2013 3:41:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 Domken, somehow I don't think the congress will be asking them about those things under oath. I think they'll be asking them about,.....other things. You're not one of those Benghazi fetishists are you?

popeye1250 -> RE: "The Dissapearing Generals." (6/30/2013 4:40:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 Domken, somehow I don't think the congress will be asking them about those things under oath. I think they'll be asking them about,.....other things. You're not one of those Benghazi fetishists are you? I have fetishes but Benghazi isn't one of them. With all the questioning going on I'd say that President Pantload is a "fetishist" about more things than just Benghazi about now though. Ya think?

Powergamz1 -> RE: "The Dissapearing Generals." (7/1/2013 2:52:51 AM)
When personnel retire from the military their pay is technically part retainer, and they in turn retain an ID card and some active duty privileges. Because of that, anyone can be recalled to active duty to face disciplinary action. As a rule this is rarely done, but it is possible. quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 http://www.ijreview.com/2013/06/62053-president-obamas-purge-military-officers-replaced-by-the-commander-in-chief/ It's just a matter of time before these Generals and Admirals are brought before congress and put under oath. I wonder what's going to happen then? The Congress will be laughed at. The President is Commander and Chief of the armed forces. If he doesn't like the way a flag officer is performing his duties he can remove him at any time. See Truman and MacAuthur as well as Lincoln and about a dozen different generals. DomKen, you are correct sir! But now that they are retired they no longer have to answer to him, do they?

DomKen -> RE: "The Dissapearing Generals." (7/1/2013 3:06:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Powergamz1 When personnel retire from the military their pay is technically part retainer, and they in turn retain an ID card and some active duty privileges. Because of that, anyone can be recalled to active duty to face disciplinary action. As a rule this is rarely done, but it is possible. You can only be recalled to duty and court martialed for something you did while still in the service. Once you are discharged or retired you are no longer subject to the UCMJ.

Powergamz1 -> RE: "The Dissapearing Generals." (7/1/2013 4:43:42 AM)
http://www.dcmilitary.com/article/20130125/NEWS09/130129910/ask-the-lawyer-can-i-face-court-martial-charges-after-retirement As I said, retired personnel can be recalled to active duty to answer for conduct under military disciplinary proceedings. Nothing was said to indicate that that they could be charged under the UCMJ for actions that took place after separation.

MasterCaneman -> RE: "The Dissapearing Generals." (7/1/2013 9:10:18 AM)
My understanding is, a general is not like any other retired military member. Once someone reaches that level, they're ability to be recalled is much higher because they've created a 'cult of personality' about them. By the time a service member receives their first star, they've commanded, mentored, and influenced thousands of other officers and NCOs. This means they remain a force to be reckoned with for some time after separation. Who better to lead a successful revolution and insurgency than a person whose commanded tens of thousands of troops daily-daily? The government likes to keep tabs on people like that for a reason. And yes, UCMJ applies to someone after separation for crimes committed during their term of service. I personally know of a Spec-4 who got Article 15'd two years after discharge for letting stuff walk out of the supply room. Paid a hefty fine, but his lawyer was able to keep it from becoming a felony. It still cost him a bundle though.

mnottertail -> RE: "The Dissapearing Generals." (7/1/2013 9:55:31 AM)
I would like to see alot more upper brass dumped off the face of the earth.

popeye1250 -> RE: "The Dissapearing Generals." (7/1/2013 1:14:03 PM)
I watched a news report last night on FOX NEWS (Because MSNBC, CNBC, CNN, etc won't even mention "Benghazi") and one of the security peronel who was flown in (too late) from Egypt said that the movie on Youtube played "no role" in the attack. Evidently no-one saw it. But, just a few days later there's Hillary Clinton saying that ; "that despicable movie in you tube, WHICH WE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH" caused the attack on the embassey." ("operation change - the - subject") And she said that twice in the clip, "WHICH WE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH!" Funny, no-one accused the administration of "having anything* to do with that movie." Wasn't it William Shaespere who said; "Me thinks he doth protestith too much?" And, "WHAT DIFFERANCE DOES IT MAKE....NOW?" There's a certain thing that Hillary Clinton does whenever she lies or isn't being truthfull. And there's another thing that came to light during this program, the attack went on for EIGHT HOURS! You could have flown troops all the way down from Germany to stop it! That's very significant. I thought the attack only lasted for an hour or so.

jlf1961 -> RE: "The Dissapearing Generals." (7/1/2013 1:20:12 PM)
Funny, I found recent reports after a google search on cbs and cnn. Is it possible that your cable or satellite provider is somehow editing the signal you receive so that those reports do not show up? Of course you do have to put your cable or satellite receiver on those particular channels for it to work properly.

DomKen -> RE: "The Dissapearing Generals." (7/1/2013 4:19:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Funny, I found recent reports after a google search on cbs and cnn. Is it possible that your cable or satellite provider is somehow editing the signal you receive so that those reports do not show up? Of course you do have to put your cable or satellite receiver on those particular channels for it to work properly. That's one possible explanation. I think there is another that is more likely. He could be shull of fit or something, my dyslexia might be acting up.

popeye1250 -> RE: "The Dissapearing Generals." (7/1/2013 4:26:47 PM)
Don't kill the messenger. They're discovering more and more everyday. It's going to get real interesting this fall when they start putting people under oath.

MrRodgers -> RE: "The Dissapearing Generals." (7/1/2013 4:36:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Considering the article reads like so much conspiracy crap, and sense each of these Generals were involved in unethical behavior, and in one case, a complete disregard for the office of the President, none of the charges were trumped up. Now, since Hastings car was taken over by a CIA operative and driven by remote control in such a manner as to cause the fatal accident... I cant keep writing with a straight face. Well as long as we are on the subject lets remember the names: Judges Merrick Garland, David Tatel and Thomas Griffith. Just for the fun of it, if you can call it fun.

MrRodgers -> RE: "The Dissapearing Generals." (7/1/2013 4:40:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Funny, I found recent reports after a google search on cbs and cnn. Is it possible that your cable or satellite provider is somehow editing the signal you receive so that those reports do not show up? Of course you do have to put your cable or satellite receiver on those particular channels for it to work properly. I bet they never thought of that.

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