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I kind of laughed reading this thread, and it goes to show you nothing really changes. The same people who run around talking about freedom, how the US should export democracy around the world, etc, are often the same people who are the first ones to say "nah nah" when it doesn't work out as they expected. One of the reasons the US is not a Democracy, why we have a constitution that limits the power of the government, has checks and balances to protect individual rights, is because the founders feared democracy. And why? Cause 'power to the people' doesn't always generate good results. Blasting Obama is childish and in many ways it would been hypocritical of us to stop the revolt and keep Mubarek in power, when we keep talking about the power of Freedom and Democracy. Our history is littered with places where we stamped out democratically elected governments, where we spent boatloads of money fixing elections, where we kept a scumbag like the Shah of Iran in power and then wondered why when he was overthrown the people hate us. There is a funny thing about Democracy and that is its outcomes are often unknown. It is sad that the Egyptians, who railed against Mubarek being a strong man, elected people who want to do the same thing, only under the guise of "an Islamic Republic", that they haven't quite figured out that Sharia law generally leads to oppression, not freedom....but quite honestly, it is for them to work out, and blaming Obama because we should have kept Mubarek in power kind of is missing a major point, that if Mubarek and Sadat were responsible for people believing the Muslim Brotherhood was a welcome change, that anyone promising them some sense of economy justice, some hope, was going to win....
What the Brotherhoods found out is that the same wave that swept then in can sweep them out, they thought they were going to create the next Iran, and people rose up, in part because the Brotherhood never learned a fundamental rule of politics, that all politics is local, and that a government that doesn't provide the basic services, doesn't give the people what they are looking for, that grabs power but doesn't seem to know what to do with it, is going to fail. Hopefully the Egyptian people, those with half a brain, will realize that the Brotherhood is a bunch of people who are all theoretical, who have their head up their ass that all they have to do is proclaim Shariah law, bless Mohammend, Bless Allah and milk and honey will flow; in their own way, they are no different then the religious right and the GOP who so overreached on social issues and forgot that most people could give a crap less, they wanted to establish a 'Christian' nation, and failed and more importantly, are now the party of "no"; the Brotherhoods were not all that much different,and they failed, and for the same reason the GOP is failing, it is full of people who see things in black and white, say it is my way or no way, and as a result couldn't get out of their own way. In some ways, Morsi, the ex prime minister, reminds me a lot of John Boehner, probably one of the worst political leaders we have seen, both of them talk the same way, and in the end, deliver nothing.
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