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Slappy -> Tens unit placement on females (7/2/2013 4:57:26 PM)
Can anyone show me proper placement of a tens unit on females?

SwitchNSpanky -> RE: Tens unit placement on females (7/2/2013 5:10:57 PM)
I think you may want to find a physical teacher before using a tens. I have heard that improper use can cause injury or death. I've never had any real experiance with one tho.

CynthiaWVirginia -> RE: Tens unit placement on females (7/2/2013 6:49:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Slappy Can anyone show me proper placement of a tens unit on females? This info will be in SM 101 by Jay Wiseman. We have one now too, but I haven't had an interest in having it used on my girly bits yet. Electrical stuff is okay from the waist down. Long time ago, my chiropractor was going to give me a TENS Unit to use on my back. Back then, the slightest zap across my back sent me into harsh muscle spasms, so I told him no thanks, lol. I am completely unaware of what safeties he used when I had this done to me several times.

littleclip -> RE: Tens unit placement on females (7/2/2013 7:29:27 PM)
try to find a local group that teaches electrical play that is best most units have adjustable levels and different pads the dry skin has the highest resistance wet skin the least. too much voltage can cause permanent nerve damage so do some research and attend some classes it can be great fun if done properly. just clip

MalcolmNathaniel -> RE: Tens unit placement on females (7/2/2013 8:40:35 PM)
There are two ways to understand how to use a TENS safely: 1) Be shown by someone experienced. 2) Get a degree in electrical engineering. Make sure you take a class in biomedical-electrical-engineering.

hrxxx -> RE: Tens unit placement on females (7/2/2013 10:13:11 PM)
Read the instruction manual for your unit's, as the starting point, it is the most sensible to do! There may be things that are important to your health and the safe use! When you put the pads on, they shall sit with around 2-5 centimeters apart, and they work best if her pussy is new shaved if her pussy is not new shaved, then comes pads easy to sit solve and the feeling is being, more as a stinging sensation and not as vibrating sensation as it is supposed to. [Mod edit to remove graphic photo]

MistressDarkArt -> RE: Tens unit placement on females (7/2/2013 10:58:22 PM)
Slappy, head over to smartstim.com. It's a free, anonymous site dedicated completely to estim. There's a forum called 'The Female Perspective' which will be a wealth of information. They have great stickies to start with, then you can search the forum, and failing all that, the members are happy to quickly answer any question you might have. Where estim really shines with females is in causing muscular contractions of the genitals (known as 'ghost-fucking'). Outside pads WITH an internal electrode generally works quite well once dialed in (especially if the internal and external electrode complete one channel), but pads alone are either meh or annoying. If you have a specific question, you're welcome to pm on the other side. I have years of experience with estim on myself and with my male partners.

ForgetToRemember -> RE: Tens unit placement on females (7/2/2013 11:12:20 PM)
I'm no expert, but here is a link that might be useful: Engineering.dartmouth Basically it is saying that Amps matter more than voltage. The ways you can die from electricity are (to my knowledge): Your heart's AV node is disrupted, causing ventricular fibrillation (uncoordinated pumping of the left and right ventricles, making them 'quiver' instead of pump blood in a concerted effort). The heart will pump on it's own as long as its tissue is alive and has the proper nutrients, however the AV node decides how fast the heart beats and makes them beat together (technically your nerves decide how fast it should beat). The AV node slows down the current from the SA node and sends it along the purkinje fibers which contract the ventricles. Cause of death is Cardiogenic Shock. Life can be significantly prolonged with CPR, and v fib can be reset with a defibrillator (sometimes called an AED - Automated External Defibrilator). You can sometimes find AEDs in cases in large buildings or schools along the wall, and of course ambulances and fire trucks carry them. Disruption to the phrenic nerve which innervates the Diaphragm. The diaphragm is a muscle in just below the lungs in the middle of your chest cavity that expands (contracts) or recedes (relaxes). This changes the pressure between the outside world and your lungs, allowing air to enter due to the difference in pressure. When the diaphragm is contracted it creates a positive pressure difference inside the lungs do to more volume area and forces air inside. When relaxed, the diaphram forces air out do to negative pressure inside the lungs compared to the outside world (less volume area). The Phrenic nerve starts around C-3 to C-5 (C stands for Cervical spine - your neck has 7 cervical vertebrae). It is about in the middle of your neck, slightly above the midpoint really. Generally speaking it is very difficult to interfere with your spinal cord due to it's great protection with muscle, vertebrae, collagen, and tough Meninges (dura mater, pia mater and arachnoid mater). However, I wouldn't know for sure how far an electrical current could penetrate the spinal cord. Cause of death is Respiratory Shock (not enough Oxygen due to a respiratory system failure). CPR can be used to prolong life as well in Respiratory Shock (since Cardiogenic Shock usually follows suit). The best treatment is positive pressure air such as a bag-valve mask or even just breathing for the person. Either way, you should take from this that CPR is very valuable in saving lives and do not risk using electricity with any decent amperage above the stomach (definitely not chest or neck / spinal column). I'm sure you could die from other kinds of nerve damage as well, such as the Vagus nerve which innervates most of your organs, but I would think that would take far to long and would right itself before any serious damage could be done.

MalcolmNathaniel -> RE: Tens unit placement on females (7/2/2013 11:34:47 PM)
When it comes to the heart it isn't so much amperage as it is frequency. Don't mess with electricity above the waist until you know the difference. It'll take a few amps to burn through you on DC. It'll take a few milliAmps to kill you stone dead at 50 or 60 Hertz AC. If you understand electricity it is as safe as a pair of cuffs. If you don't it's as dangerous as breathplay. O am not trying to scare you. I am merely trying to tell you that you need a lot of education before you use electricity above the waist.

ForgetToRemember -> RE: Tens unit placement on females (7/2/2013 11:49:07 PM)
Could you elaborate on the frequency, as I have not heard that before. I have this quote, "At currents as low as 60 to 100 milliamperes, low-voltage (110-220 volts), 60-hertz alternating current traveling through the chest for a split second can cause life-threatening irregular heart rhythms. About 300-500 milliamperes of direct current is needed to have the same effect." I do not understand electricity, just physiology. What makes frequency and AC vs DC matter? Also, i know about the differences in resistance depending on the location on the body and distance between electrodes, but I do not know if they accounted for that in the final readings quoted.

hrxxx -> RE: Tens unit placement on females (7/3/2013 12:13:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ForgetToRemember I'm no expert, but here is a link that might be useful: Engineering.dartmouth Basically it is saying that Amps matter more than voltage. The ways you can die from electricity are (to my knowledge): Your heart's AV node is disrupted, causing ventricular fibrillation (uncoordinated pumping of the left and right ventricles, making them 'quiver' instead of pump blood in a concerted effort). The heart will pump on it's own as long as its tissue is alive and has the proper nutrients, however the AV node decides how fast the heart beats and makes them beat together (technically your nerves decide how fast it should beat). The AV node slows down the current from the SA node and sends it along the purkinje fibers which contract the ventricles. Cause of death is Cardiogenic Shock. Life can be significantly prolonged with CPR, and v fib can be reset with a defibrillator (sometimes called an AED - Automated External Defibrilator). You can sometimes find AEDs in cases in large buildings or schools along the wall, and of course ambulances and fire trucks carry them. Disruption to the phrenic nerve which innervates the Diaphragm. The diaphragm is a muscle in just below the lungs in the middle of your chest cavity that expands (contracts) or recedes (relaxes). This changes the pressure between the outside world and your lungs, allowing air to enter due to the difference in pressure. When the diaphragm is contracted it creates a positive pressure difference inside the lungs do to more volume area and forces air inside. When relaxed, the diaphram forces air out do to negative pressure inside the lungs compared to the outside world (less volume area). The Phrenic nerve starts around C-3 to C-5 (C stands for Cervical spine - your neck has 7 cervical vertebrae). It is about in the middle of your neck, slightly above the midpoint really. Generally speaking it is very difficult to interfere with your spinal cord due to it's great protection with muscle, vertebrae, collagen, and tough Meninges (dura mater, pia mater and arachnoid mater). However, I wouldn't know for sure how far an electrical current could penetrate the spinal cord. Cause of death is Respiratory Shock (not enough Oxygen due to a respiratory system failure). CPR can be used to prolong life as well in Respiratory Shock (since Cardiogenic Shock usually follows suit). The best treatment is positive pressure air such as a bag-valve mask or even just breathing for the person. Either way, you should take from this that CPR is very valuable in saving lives and do not risk using electricity with any decent amperage above the stomach (definitely not chest or neck / spinal column). I'm sure you could die from other kinds of nerve damage as well, such as the Vagus nerve which innervates most of your organs, but I would think that would take far to long and would right itself before any serious damage could be done. As I said, read the instruction manual that comes with the unit, it can be dangerous if used incorrectly.

thursdays -> RE: Tens unit placement on females (7/3/2013 12:32:10 AM)
[NM - see crazyml's post below]

crazyml -> RE: Tens unit placement on females (7/3/2013 12:34:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MalcolmNathaniel When it comes to the heart it isn't so much amperage as it is frequency. Don't mess with electricity above the waist until you know the difference. I don't wish to doubt your expertise, but this is the sort of thing that only someone who has no clue whatosever what they are talking abotu would say. What matters is the amount of energy, which can be conveniently measured in Joules (which are, very simply watt-seconds). The wattage consumed by a circuit is a function of Volts * Amps. Frequency does have an effect, but trust me - if you pop 300 joules across a heart, the frequencey isn't going to matter a fuck. quote: It'll take a few amps to burn through you on DC. It'll take a few milliAmps to kill you stone dead at 50 or 60 Hertz AC. Bullshit. You're now conflating two different components - DC vs AC and frequency. I'm starting to think that you may be confused. It'll take a relatively few milliamps at a high voltage to kill you, or a few volts as a high amperage to kill you (less likely because of the body's resistance). quote: If you understand electricity it is as safe as a pair of cuffs. If you don't it's as dangerous as breathplay. O am not trying to scare you. I am merely trying to tell you that you need a lot of education before you use electricity above the waist. As do you, it seems.

epiphiny43 -> RE: Tens unit placement on females (7/3/2013 1:25:44 AM)
This crap again? Answering Slappy (Code won't let me change a wrong 'reply'?) TENS units are used all over the world, all over the body and NO 'untoward' incidents are known yet. The OSHA doesn't even have a category for TENS medical events. My best friend is a well-known member of the NYC medical community so I had him ask around. His buddy that is a 'famous' heart surgeon just blinked and asked, "TENS problems?" Hadn't heard of ANY. The devices are legal for non-prescription use on all parts of the body, most directions caution Not to apply the electrodes on eyes, temples or on the Carotid artery. No known injuries, but these make the suitably 'informed authorities' a bit nervous. Spasming Carotid arteries will disrupt blood supply to that side of the brain. It's flatly prohibited to use a TENS in the close vicinity of a Pacemaker implanted wire. THIS is the one way a 120Milliamp or so TENS unit could deliver disruptive current to a sensitive part of a heart. It possibly wouldn't do the pacemaker a lot of good either and if someone Has a pacemaker, they probably want it functional? Heart nerve danger levels of current (Amps) start right about where most TENS max out, so a wire leading right to the heart nerve control center would allow that to happen. TENS connected to the exterior of a thorax (Chest) produces hopelessly diluted current to ANY interior organ or nerve and electricity wants to stay on the surface anyway, as any EE will tell you is a normal situation for current flow. MOST TENS units are sold for and prescribed for above the waist muscle or pain therapy. You'd think after a few dozen million TENS were out there (LONG time back) someone would have noticed if there were people dying or just showing up in ERs? TENS units go on females just the same as on males. Where the effects are desired, feared or strongest! Try some places? You might even have some fun. Nipples work best on me, I'd definitely listen to MistressDarkArt (post #7) who's been playing happily for years and seems still alive. E-stim machines are not necessarily TENS units! If you don't know what you have, study? The E-stim machines I just googled are all WEAKER than my ordinary TENS. If it has a 9v battery as power supply, it has to have a capacitor too big to pick up to hurt you?

crazyml -> RE: Tens unit placement on females (7/3/2013 1:30:54 AM)
There you go, bringing some actual facts and common sense to a thread. Way to kill the joy.

epiphiny43 -> RE: Tens unit placement on females (7/3/2013 1:39:12 AM)
Gee, sorry. Hope I don't kill the Thread! People, if you just Think you know, STFU! No thread demands your participation to exist. Notice all the subjects the truly educated refrain from posting on? (The ones they Aren't well educated on?) If people ask for opinions, knock yourself out. When people ask for important information, Don't guess? Or, pass on modern Urban Myths, that just Everyone you know repeats? (When I die, can I go to a Heaven that is math and science literate? PLEASE?) Google and Wikipedia are just as close as the OK option at the bottom of your reply box. USE them.

MalcolmNathaniel -> RE: Tens unit placement on females (7/3/2013 6:13:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crazyml quote: ORIGINAL: MalcolmNathaniel When it comes to the heart it isn't so much amperage as it is frequency. Don't mess with electricity above the waist until you know the difference. I don't wish to doubt your expertise, but this is the sort of thing that only someone who has no clue whatosever what they are talking abotu would say. What matters is the amount of energy, which can be conveniently measured in Joules (which are, very simply watt-seconds). The wattage consumed by a circuit is a function of Volts * Amps. Frequency does have an effect, but trust me - if you pop 300 joules across a heart, the frequencey isn't going to matter a fuck. quote: It'll take a few amps to burn through you on DC. It'll take a few milliAmps to kill you stone dead at 50 or 60 Hertz AC. Bullshit. You're now conflating two different components - DC vs AC and frequency. I'm starting to think that you may be confused. It'll take a relatively few milliamps at a high voltage to kill you, or a few volts as a high amperage to kill you (less likely because of the body's resistance). quote: If you understand electricity it is as safe as a pair of cuffs. If you don't it's as dangerous as breathplay. O am not trying to scare you. I am merely trying to tell you that you need a lot of education before you use electricity above the waist. As do you, it seems. You would be funny if you weren't so dangerous. I am an electrical engineer and I did my junior project on electrocution. Everything you said is wrong. Dangerously wrong. You don't even understand why it it is the frequency of the signal rather than the energy involved. Do you even know what a Joule is? Do you know the difference between an Amp and a Volt? Do you know why 60 Hz AC (the standard in North America) is so dangerous and why we use such a dangerous standard for electrical power? The answer to all those questions is: NO! Don't try to teach your grandmother how to milk ducks.

ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Tens unit placement on females (7/3/2013 6:44:31 AM)
I have a tens unit for my back, it's a small handheld device called an Empi Select. It takes 2 AA batteries. This is directly from the warning page on my user documentation: Throat Stimulation: Severe spasm of the laryngeal and pharyngeal muscles may occur when the electrodes are placed across the throat or mouth. This may be strong enough to close off the airway or cause breathing problems. Transthoracic stimulation: Do not apply electrical stimulation transthoracically (through the chest area) in that the introduction of electrical current into the heart may cause cardiac arrhythmias. Soooooooooooooo . . . I don't use the unit on my throat or chest area. Although my sub would love to have his nipple area stimulated with the tens, he had open heart surgery as a young man. He's in his 60s now, and I'm just not going to take the chance of him having a heart attack. The picture posted by Hrxxx shows some nice electrode placement on the labia, but that method is only going to work if the area is free of hair. Clean (oil free) skin is a must; my unit comes with special wipes to clean the skin for better contact. Keeping the electrode pads in the refrigerator helps to rejuvenate them (they lose their stickiness and that lowers contact). Freezing cold pads are a nice torment ! [:)] My tens is both a fun toy and a great pain reliever. I like to use it with my microwaveable heating pad (moist heat). Somewhere in the documentation, it does say 'not for use on sexual organs.' Which made me laugh, evidently this is a very common practice !!

crazyml -> RE: Tens unit placement on females (7/3/2013 6:51:34 AM)
[Edited in an attempt to remove some snark]

MalcolmNathaniel -> RE: Tens unit placement on females (7/3/2013 7:18:19 AM)
Whatever. i don't need to convince you. To everyone else: Everything he said that sounds "sciencey" is patently untrue. My engineering degree cost a wee bit more than ten bucks. Believe me or not; it's your choice. I am done here.

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