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Happy Fourth - 7/5/2013 9:17:15 AM

graceadieu

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It seems like a lot of people on here are very pessimistic about the Fourth of July, and where our country is at. And I don't disagree that we're having a lot of problems, between the economy and the NSA and the Voting Rights Act decision and our disgraceful treatment of our veterans.

But last night, I saw a whole lot of happy, excited immigrants waving flags and setting off fireworks, celebrating being in America. And it made me think - in some ways, a lot of ways - this country still works. We're a nation of immigrants (my great-grandparents came here with nothing but a grade-school education and a hard work ethic), a place where people can come to be free and safe and make something of themselves. Where people can be part of new a culture without giving up their old culture, where all kinds of people can come together. And I think that's wonderful.

Happy (belated) Independence Day!

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RE: Happy Fourth - 7/5/2013 9:36:41 AM

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ORIGINAL: graceadieu

It seems like a lot of people on here are very pessimistic about the Fourth of July, and where our country is at. And I don't disagree that we're having a lot of problems, between the economy and the NSA and the Voting Rights Act decision and our disgraceful treatment of our veterans.

But last night, I saw a whole lot of happy, excited immigrants waving flags and setting off fireworks, celebrating being in America. And it made me think - in some ways, a lot of ways - this country still works. We're a nation of immigrants (my great-grandparents came here with nothing but a grade-school education and a hard work ethic), a place where people can come to be free and safe and make something of themselves. Where people can be part of new a culture without giving up their old culture, where all kinds of people can come together. And I think that's wonderful.

Happy (belated) Independence Day!

You would be correct of course but now not nearly to the extent it was. The barriers (see: immigration reform) and costlier (see the impoverishment of about 50-60%) it is much higher. For example there isn't a generation that hasn't paid less percapita for food...and more for medicine...than ours.

America was...was an ideal. Now it is a battle just to maintain everything you mention. Many countries 'still work' now some are even...better than ours.

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RE: Happy Fourth - 7/5/2013 3:41:18 PM

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Happy (belated) Independence Day!

And to you too! Don't let the naysayers get you down.

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RE: Happy Fourth - 7/5/2013 8:16:51 PM

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Ive been away, in the usa, Ive been to antietam, shanksville and for the 4th, i spent ,it in the pouring rain, watching fireworks and partying with hundreds of happy flag waving americans, and i couldnt be happier, happy independence day to all my wonderful american friends.

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RE: Happy Fourth - 7/5/2013 9:22:15 PM

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Lol,thanks Lucy,sounds like you had a "blast"......glad you enjoyed yourself(a little jealous too)

Happy Fourth Of July

(a little belated...but what the hell,I'll be late for my own funeral ....I hope )

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RE: Happy Fourth - 7/6/2013 1:26:18 PM

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You would be correct of course but now not nearly to the extent it was. The barriers (see: immigration reform) and costlier (see the impoverishment of about 50-60%) it is much higher. For example there isn't a generation that hasn't paid less percapita for food...and more for medicine...than ours.

America was...was an ideal. Now it is a battle just to maintain everything you mention. Many countries 'still work' now some are even...better than ours.

Never has a national ideal come to fruition. It is an absurd metric.

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