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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/7/2013 5:56:16 AM

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I would get so bored...

But you're supposed to entertain yourself with visions and epiphanies of how to be a better slave to/for Him.

Or at least that's how the fantasy goes

We do pretty long term deprivation, four, five hours at a time. The only reason we don't go longer is, well, lack of time.
She likes the dark, mind it calming and meditative.Me, I like it too-kinda like having guys day in the house alone, but I still have holes ready for fucking whenever I desire, no discussions involved. Not that it's not that way all the time anyhow, but it's kinda nice with a bound, hooded, helpless meat puppet.

Wham, bam, no thanks to you, ma'am and right back to the football game. Yeah, that's not a bad dealio at all.

As for safety thresholds, I've spent weeks in solitary confinement while in prison. There really isn't a limit on length, but they can't keep you on bread and water indefinitely-there's a one week limit on that.
Now, how that applies to BDSM, I'm not sure, but a person should be able to go, at a minimum, a few days easy.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/7/2013 9:23:32 AM

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Hello all, its been a while since I posted.

I have done long term sensory deprivation as long as 36 hours. In my case it was more extreme as I was mummified for this time. I was completely immobilized for the time. So in answer to you question yes it can be done and safely.

I do want to speak about safety first. A hooded person should never be left along. Not sure if you are locking the hood on or if you will be able to remove it yourself should an emergency arise? If you cannot remove the hood yourself then your partner needs to be present at all times. A breathing problem whether it be from smoke from a fire to sinus allergies can kill in 2 minutes or as little as 30 seconds. So make sure you are safe.

I would also set up some type of communication via grunts or hand gestures that the 2 of you can communicate. When I was hooded even with ear plugs I could still hear my partner ask question if no other noise was interfering. So we always has a set of questions prearranged that could be asked to determine if I was just uncomfortable or was in need of help.

You also need to think about nutrition. You did not say if the mouth would be covered. But more then 4 or 6 hours the person will need some type of nutrition. Glucerna shakes or some other type of adult drink with carbs and protein is good. And it can be fed through a straw.

I will say sensory deprivation is very neat in terms of heightening other senses. I found my body became much more receptive to hot & cold. I could feel my partners body heat as far away as 4 to 5 feet. I could tell if a light was on in the room and what direction it was just from the heat. I could tell if rays of sunlight were shining through a window by the heat it put out. I could feel vibrations. I could tell when a door was being open or closed of foot steps across the floor.

Have fun and play safe. I will say it can be a very intense form a play. If you have never done it is really hard to describe the sensation. But for me I really enjoy it. Have fun!

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/7/2013 9:32:47 AM

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Welcome back mummyman :)

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I will say sensory deprivation is very neat in terms of heightening other senses.

Oh, my, yes!

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/7/2013 9:53:55 AM

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Is there some sort of safety threshold that anybody knows of, in terms of what the human mind can take under such circumstances, or any other tips, warnings or stories anybody would like to share?

I've been blindfolded for an hour or so and have fantasized about longer. I personally wouldn't want to not be able to hear as various sounds increase my fear and thus arousal...hmm, am imagining the sensation of being unexpectedly touched at random and maybe...

You might get some tips and be able to adapt the non-consensual activities from Perfect Victim: The True Story of the Girl in the Box, which I read recently.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/7/2013 9:19:32 PM

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the only problems I ever had was with bodily functions but he would every once in awhile remove the gag or made sure I could move my head to ask me if I needed to use the bathroom and he would hand feed me when it was time to eat and made sure I stayed hydrated.

Oh and just check on you to make sure you're not having any circulation issues. When I was younger I think the longest I went was 3 days, an entire weekend. It started out with light bondage and eventually moved up to full mummification by the second day.

Personally the mummification was my favorite. I like strict, tight bondage where I can't move at all. Just being left there with my own thoughts and being able to meditate and pray was a wonderful way for me to put my life back in order, give me time to just relax from all the long days of busyness of life.

Let us know how it goes.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/7/2013 9:50:31 PM

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I'm a wimp, I worry too much about Deep Vein Thrombosis to try heavy mummification. Just a single blood clot can fuck you up for life.
I don't even sit down for more than a hour without standing up and moving around for 5minutes, just in case.

Plus mobility has perv perks. The further you move around, the more disorientated your mental map becomes. Being spinnable makes it worse. Being lost is a basic terror. Spread legs have more options for pleasure and pain than closed knees. Hygiene is simplified, since toilets are an option, showers, and/or a cold garden hose and a private lawn.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/8/2013 12:27:23 PM

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I personally wouldn't want to not be able to hear as various sounds increase my fear and thus arousal...hmm, am imagining the sensation of being unexpectedly touched at random and maybe...

I told B about this thread yesterday and we tried earplugs last night. They were not sufficient but we had lots of fun anyway :)

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/8/2013 1:52:06 PM

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My husband and I are looking to experiment with long term sensory deprivation (sight and sounds completely blocked out by leather hood), and were wondering if anybody has ever done this before and would be willing to share experiences.

The first go would probably be a full workday (about 8 hours) but if it goes well I'd like to try to do a couple days at some point.

I am a housewife, so it's really not to hard for me to have the housework caught up to the point that me slacking for a few days would be an issue (especially because he'd still expect me to perform certain tasks without sight) and my husband works from home, so he wouldn't be out of the house while this was going on.

Is there some sort of safety threshold that anybody knows of, in terms of what the human mind can take under such circumstances, or any other tips, warnings or stories anybody would like to share?

I've had loads of experiance with sensory deprivation. This is a dangerous thing you attempt. A person can have many long dormant fobias that come to the surface. Even if you've known and trusted your partner for an extensive amount of time. Also. Your supposed to be an experienced player and yet you make light of something like this that could easily cause physical or metal damage. Your obviously not conciddering what others who read this poast might do as a result of reading this.

Be responsible and gradually increase the time your in the hood by short incriments. That way you and your partner will be better prepared for any mishaps. He needs to train himself to stay alert and keep his eye on you. Even when (especially when) he's pretending he is not watching. Your Dom working is not a good time to try something like this either. Be responsible and do it on a day he has off and can focus on you. It would be loads safer.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/8/2013 2:29:36 PM

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Anyone thinking of trying this needs to remember that there is a real danger of the hooded sub falling into things like glass tables or sliding glass doors, etc. a Dom should never work or otherwise be distracted while his sub bumbles around dangerously. And the longer one is in the hood the greater the chance of a sub getting freaked out or disorientated becomes.

I've heard of Subs who beg to be tied and blindfolded then freak out as soon as the blindfold is on. So, ya never know...

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/8/2013 4:56:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

quote:

I personally wouldn't want to not be able to hear as various sounds increase my fear and thus arousal...hmm, am imagining the sensation of being unexpectedly touched at random and maybe...

I told B about this thread yesterday and we tried earplugs last night. They were not sufficient but we had lots of fun anyway :)

You might try ear plugs, and then ear wax over the top of the plugs. Then ear protection muffs (can get for about $30 to $35). But it still does not cut out everything.

And not all ear plugs and muffs are created equally. Generally they have a noise reduction rating listed on the package somewhere. The foam ear plugs can range from 15 decibels to 35 decibel reduction. The higher the number the more noise they block. So look for the higher ratings. Hardware stores tend to carry the higher rating versus the local drug store.

I have also tried noise cancelling ear buds but found ear plugs actually work better.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/8/2013 5:10:32 PM

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Mine are 27 decibels when used as directed, which he wasn't. Before the next time, I will show him. I think using them correctly plus ear muffs should work pretty well.

We also talked about sound cancelling thingies - not sure if he meant buds or a headset. And playing music.

These are the best I've found for sleeping. I like the string cuz it helps me find them when they fall out:

I used to be able to get them at Walmart for under $3 but now I have to get them by the 6 pack on Amazon. I'll check out hardware stores - thanks for the tip!

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/8/2013 6:01:46 PM

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I read a few studies on this a while back, in a "wacky science" context. As far as I know, after several hours without stimulus, the brain makes up its own ;).

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/8/2013 6:44:19 PM

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I can handle a blindfold for hours. Gag for less time. But I can't handle earplugs at all. He added them one time and I had an immediate panic attack. Even if he's just quiet in the room it can set one off. I'm fine if he's touching me. Just sitting next to me with his thigh touching is enough.

But with my allergies, a hood is never going to happen.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/8/2013 6:45:56 PM

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the only problems I ever had was with bodily functions but he would every once in awhile remove the gag or made sure I could move my head to ask me if I needed to use the bathroom and he would hand feed me when it was time to eat and made sure I stayed hydrated.

Oh and just check on you to make sure you're not having any circulation issues. When I was younger I think the longest I went was 3 days, an entire weekend. It started out with light bondage and eventually moved up to full mummification by the second day.

I do have circulation issues, but he's very aware of them, so adapts bondage when necessary. We have special cuffs and other restrains for any situation where I may put pressure on the bonds, as I'm so prone to these issues that even just loosely attaching my wrists above my head with regular leather cuffs will guarantee they'll go asleep in minutes.

As for the gag, the hood we're using leaves the mouth completely clear, so that he can add or remove the gag easily. It's the only way he's up for it, especially the first time, because he's afraid of breathing issues during sleep otherwise. Full mummification will probably not happen this time.

Mainly because the necessary equipment isn't acquired yet, and my circulation issues make it risky to do it long term with stuff like plastic wrap.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/8/2013 6:47:05 PM

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Total sensory deprivation over a long time does do wild things to your head. I've used a Witches Cradle a few times. It's intense. A Cradle is basically mummification while being suspended. never used it for kink tho. Don't know I'd want to either.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/8/2013 6:48:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

I told B about this thread yesterday and we tried earplugs last night. They were not sufficient but we had lots of fun anyway :)

Normal earplugs don't suffice for me either, however the hood we use is heavily padded on the ears, and provides "friction sound" caused by my head moving over the leather when breathing, which kinda acts like build in white noise. That, combined with earplugs make that I can't hear anything he's unto, but can still hear him talking if he speaks close to my ear loudly.

Considering how much I like sensory deprivation it's ideal to me, and he loves it cause it make me unable to hear the cattle prod charge.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/8/2013 6:59:21 PM

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I've had loads of experiance with sensory deprivation. This is a dangerous thing you attempt. A person can have many long dormant fobias that come to the surface. Even if you've known and trusted your partner for an extensive amount of time. Also. Your supposed to be an experienced player and yet you make light of something like this that could easily cause physical or metal damage. Your obviously not conciddering what others who read this poast might do as a result of reading this.

Be responsible and gradually increase the time your in the hood by short incriments. That way you and your partner will be better prepared for any mishaps. He needs to train himself to stay alert and keep his eye on you. Even when (especially when) he's pretending he is not watching. Your Dom working is not a good time to try something like this either. Be responsible and do it on a day he has off and can focus on you. It would be loads safer.

How on Earth am I making light of it when I specifically started this thread to ask others for warnings and experiences, as well as having done extensive research on professional papers published on the subject? The very fact that I'm doing my research, asking questions, as well as opening a discussion about potential problems should make it very clear to anybody reading that this is not something to casually experiment with. I'm not hear preaching that this is no big deal, not in any way dangerous, and that it can't have ill effects on once psyche when things go wrong.

I have a lot of experience with sensory deprivation, having frequently slept in sensory deprivation as well as having played countless times while sensory deprived for over a decade.

Not only have I played a lot, for up to 3 hours or so, while sensory deprived, with multiple partners, I've also played extensively with sensory deprivation with my current husband, and he's very in tune with the effects it has on me, my body language while sensory deprived, as well as potential trigger points that I have (foot phobia wise) that may put me in a bad headspace to continue complete sensory deprivation in.

I just never have done it as long as the plan is for this particular experiment.

As far as him working during the experiment, that's part of the whole next step we're attempting this time. Ideally this would become a regular thing in our routine on weeks we don't have custody, with me getting used to doing several mundane tasks around the house while hooded, without supervision, to a level of comfort approximating that of a person going deaf and blind later in life.

We have the benefit of joint custody, him working from home, and me not working at all, which leaves us 50% of our time with just the two of us going at it like kinky rabbits. Multiple day bondage projects in which life IS 24/7 whips, chains and restrains is very much part of our normal life together. This is just a next step in upping the ante.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/8/2013 7:20:40 PM

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I do want to speak about safety first. A hooded person should never be left along. Not sure if you are locking the hood on or if you will be able to remove it yourself should an emergency arise? If you cannot remove the hood yourself then your partner needs to be present at all times. A breathing problem whether it be from smoke from a fire to sinus allergies can kill in 2 minutes or as little as 30 seconds. So make sure you are safe.

I would also set up some type of communication via grunts or hand gestures that the 2 of you can communicate. When I was hooded even with ear plugs I could still hear my partner ask question if no other noise was interfering. So we always has a set of questions prearranged that could be asked to determine if I was just uncomfortable or was in need of help.

You also need to think about nutrition. You did not say if the mouth would be covered. But more then 4 or 6 hours the person will need some type of nutrition. Glucerna shakes or some other type of adult drink with carbs and protein is good. And it can be fed through a straw.

I will say sensory deprivation is very neat in terms of heightening other senses. I found my body became much more receptive to hot & cold. I could feel my partners body heat as far away as 4 to 5 feet. I could tell if a light was on in the room and what direction it was just from the heat. I could tell if rays of sunlight were shining through a window by the heat it put out. I could feel vibrations. I could tell when a door was being open or closed of foot steps across the floor.

Have fun and play safe. I will say it can be a very intense form a play. If you have never done it is really hard to describe the sensation. But for me I really enjoy it. Have fun!

I disagree on the idea that hooded people shouldn't be left alone. I know it's a risk, but it's a risk I'm aware of and willing to take.

Ideally I would become used to it to the point where being hooded isn't that much more dangerous than it would be to a deaf/blind person, as it's not the incapacitation of movement so much as the vulnerability we're after. Of course, even being perfectly used to it, it will carry risks, but again, it's a risk I'm aware of willing to take.

As far as nutrition goes, I'm currently on an exercise and diet regime that requires me to eat every 2-3 hours, which is part of the reason we'll be using a hood with complete open mouth access, potentially with at times having external, none locked gags added.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/8/2013 7:21:57 PM

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You might get some tips and be able to adapt the non-consensual activities from Perfect Victim: The True Story of the Girl in the Box, which I read recently.

Wow, thank you for that link. Bought it and read it in a day, and it was very helpful, though I have to admit that certain sections were hard not to read as porn for somebody with a mind as twisted as mine...

I think I'm going to have to construct a head box now.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/8/2013 7:26:51 PM

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We've been joking about the head box...

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