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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/9/2013 11:53:41 AM

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Nice to see you posting again, Mummy !

For the OP: I would take his statements very seriously, Mummy is the resident expert.

I like sensory deprivation for an hour or two. I'm not sure I'm suited to longer than that. I would definitely want to work up to the 8 hour stretch.

ETA: I'm not talking physical concerns, that has been well covered, but mental ones.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/9/2013 12:10:59 PM

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If you're trying to create the experience of missing your sense of hearing and sight, in reality you would have accommodations in the house. You would have someone guide you through it until you memorized where everything was. The stove would have Braille markings and controls in the front. You would have a cane to use to sense your environment. And eventually a service dog.

I do hope you aren't going to be allowed to cook. And that if you are injured, the hood is one you can remove yourself to call for help.

Something else to consider is what your hair will look like after sweating. I would suggest putting conditioner in before and not washing it out. Should help minimize giant tangles.

Nope, I won't be doing anything like cooking.
As far as memorizing where everything is, I know where everything is, and woe they who dare to enter my house even when I'm not blindfolded and misplace anything! I'm one of those neurotic people who has all the silverware nestled and facing the same way instead of thrown in the drawer, and my even my junk drawer is more organized than most people's kitchens.

As far as tangles, my hair reaches to my butt, so the only kind of hoods we use are those with a hole that has my ponytail sticking out of it. I've worn this hood for 8 hours before (overnight), and with how dry Colorado is I don't actually notice much sweat building up under it. The leather breaths enough that it all dries before it's got a chance to get sticky.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/9/2013 12:17:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

For the OP: I would take his statements very seriously, Mummy is the resident expert.

I like sensory deprivation for an hour or two. I'm not sure I'm suited to longer than that. I would definitely want to work up to the 8 hour stretch.

ETA: I'm not talking physical concerns, that has been well covered, but mental ones.

I'm not discounting his advice. I just disagree with the idea that hooded people should never be left alone.

My husband won't be leaving the house, and if I do have a panic attack, or a mental breakdown, or fall, he can be with me in less than 30 seconds. There isn't a place in the house where he wouldn't be able to hear me from his office, so I don't feel it's necessary at all for him not to leave me alone.

Lots of people believe that bound/caged/incapacitated people should never be left alone, especially when they cannot release themselves, and I don't ascribe to that school of thought. I've always played with bondage with people out of the room, or even out of the house for several hours, usually with locks and such in place that would prohibit me to get out at all if something happened.
It's a form of RACK play that is important to me personally, and I have no intension whatsoever of heeding safety warnings that come from the fundamental idea that bound people should always be supervised, because that advice isn't applicable to the parameters I choose to play with. I'm aware it's a serious risk I'm taking, but it's a risk I'm more than willing to take nonetheless.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/9/2013 1:53:58 PM

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You (Ishtar) are way hard core. I'd say your doing you safely enough. But most folks should prob increase time in hood or whatnot by hours instead of over a day.

I do like your idea of exploring the house a little at a time. (I understand it's how blind folks do it.). I am very interested in this. (fun kink and good science all rolled into one.:)

(gotta go to work. Hit ya up tomsrrow)

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/9/2013 7:42:09 PM

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Master has talked about catheters and feeding tubes in the future for longer periods of bondage. But I think that's a bit further in the future until my health issues are under control.

Master wants electric catheters so he can send shocks all the way up inside.
Oh God, yes he does. He wants to hear you scream and writhe

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/9/2013 7:47:50 PM

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It takes a long time to acquire bedsores...I mean like a week immobilized, unless you have some other physical health issues. Otherwise I don't think one really needs to worry about those for a few hours or a couple of days.

Usually takes a week or more. But. Being restrained as in mummification it takes much less time. In 24 hours my twitching gave me some small sores where the bindings were tight but left some room. Think a hood would be cool for Fourty eight if it fit well tho.

I guess I've been lucky then. The most I had were some hives from sweating that were itchy but were gone after a nice cool shower and also some marks from where the materials chaffed the skin, and maybe a couple bruises here and there from areas that were tight.

The only type of bondage I can't stand for long periods of time are hoods. As much as I would to be able to, my eczema and allergies end up making my face hurt and swell. Even if I'm wearing a really tight blindfold, my eyes are swollen after it's taken off. We have one that's a really light material but yet dark enough to not see. I know Master likes hoods and we still do them from time to time, I just can't wear them for hours and days.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/9/2013 8:02:20 PM

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You (Ishtar) are way hard core.

Nah I'm not hardcore at all. I shy away from anything that registers as even remotely hardcore to me.

I'm just a freak in that a lot of what turns me on registers as hardcore stuff to others, but actual hardcore stuff? Nope, no way, no how.

I don't have a problem with having a cattle prod used on me to the point of hysterical crying, for example, but don't touch me with your feet, or put a cane mark on me hard enough to leave a slight welt, or you'll really see me freak out.

I'm really nothing but an absolute wuss with very peculiar tastes.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/9/2013 8:14:33 PM

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The only type of bondage I can't stand for long periods of time are hoods. As much as I would to be able to, my eczema and allergies end up making my face hurt and swell. Even if I'm wearing a really tight blindfold, my eyes are swollen after it's taken off. We have one that's a really light material but yet dark enough to not see. I know Master likes hoods and we still do them from time to time, I just can't wear them for hours and days.

Have you tried Darlex and PVC fabric hoods at all: http://winterfetish.com/hood.html

They're not as totally confining as leather (obviously) but they're really surprisingly good at emulating the pressure and confinement that a hood brings, a long with a non-presure total blindfold effect, and a little sound dampening due to the way the fabric rustles over your ears (especially in combination with earplugs). While at the same time being FAR more breathable, so that sweating isn't so much of an issue anymore, as well as being far more affordable, and machine washable for when he's beating you to the point of tears and snot making your face a pool of blubber.
I've switched almost completely away from leather for scenes where he knows he's going to make me cry on purpose, because I had the idea of my expensive leather hoods getting crusted with a layer of snot embedded in them.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/10/2013 9:01:01 AM

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You (Ishtar) are way hard core.

Nah I'm not hardcore at all. I shy away from anything that registers as even remotely hardcore to me.

I'm just a freak in that a lot of what turns me on registers as hardcore stuff to others, but actual hardcore stuff? Nope, no way, no how.

I don't have a problem with having a cattle prod used on me to the point of hysterical crying, for example, but don't touch me with your feet, or put a cane mark on me hard enough to leave a slight welt, or you'll really see me freak out.

I'm really nothing but an absolute wuss with very peculiar tastes.

I used to ride bulls. And the cattle prod has always terrified me. I've never tried one on myself or a sub. I dig a cane tho. Fun to use and the one time one was used on me it hurt like hell, but I liked it.

Can you poast a link that describes the hood you use? I like hoods. But wife does not. We do falconry for a living (ha Dad-you said I'd never make a living messing with those damn birds) and wife gets weirded out being hooded like a falcon. I keep telling her it's different. But I can't tell her why... Lol

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/10/2013 9:21:56 AM

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I used to ride bulls. And the cattle prod has always terrified me. I've never tried one on myself or a sub. I dig a cane tho. Fun to use and the one time one was used on me it hurt like hell, but I liked it.

Can you poast a link that describes the hood you use? I like hoods. But wife does not. We do falconry for a living (ha Dad-you said I'd never make a living messing with those damn birds) and wife gets weirded out being hooded like a falcon. I keep telling her it's different. But I can't tell her why... Lol

Cattle prods are really not as bad as everybody seems to think they are. If you know how to use a violet wand properly, they can be much worse than a prod.

http://image.dhgate.com/albu_271878310_00-1.0x0/1pcs-new-pvc-heavy-duty-leather-hood.jpg
http://winterfetish.com/catalog/Premium-PVC-Hood-Kissing-Style.html
http://winterfetish.com/catalog/Darlex-Hood-With-Mouth-Hole.html (locking with ponytail hole)

Next on the wish list: http://cdn100.iofferphoto.com/img/item/150/494/955/very-cruel-all-leather-locking-bondage-gimp-hood-mask-60bb0.jpg

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/10/2013 11:36:15 AM

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I think when you said he would be in his office, we understood it to be outside the home. A home office is different. He'll have the door open and can hear you yell.

I hadn't realized they sold hoods with a hole for the pony tail. A very sensible design.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/10/2013 12:06:18 PM

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I think when you said he would be in his office, we understood it to be outside the home. A home office is different. He'll have the door open and can hear you yell.

I hadn't realized they sold hoods with a hole for the pony tail. A very sensible design.

I mentioned in my first post he works from home, but if that was misunderstood and everybody thought he's skip out for 8 hours on the first go, yeah, that WOULD be a serious issue.

It took some time finding hoods with pony tail holes (though a lot of the leather lace up ones, while not having a designated hole can work a ponytail in through the lacing). My hair falls down to my butt, so putting it up in a bun, hoods don't fit over my head, and leaving it loose, means that there is uncontrolable hair everywhere in his way while playing. Ponytail hoods work for both of us, though considering how much he likes using that tail as a handle, it doesn't really help keep tangles down either.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/10/2013 2:56:57 PM

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I used to ride bulls. And the cattle prod has always terrified me. I've never tried one on myself or a sub. I dig a cane tho. Fun to use and the one time one was used on me it hurt like hell, but I liked it.

Can you poast a link that describes the hood you use? I like hoods. But wife does not. We do falconry for a living (ha Dad-you said I'd never make a living messing with those damn birds) and wife gets weirded out being hooded like a falcon. I keep telling her it's different. But I can't tell her why... Lol

Cattle prods are really not as bad as everybody seems to think they are. If you know how to use a violet wand properly, they can be much worse than a prod.

http://image.dhgate.com/albu_271878310_00-1.0x0/1pcs-new-pvc-heavy-duty-leather-hood.jpg
http://winterfetish.com/catalog/Premium-PVC-Hood-Kissing-Style.html
http://winterfetish.com/catalog/Darlex-Hood-With-Mouth-Hole.html (locking with ponytail hole)

Next on the wish list: http://cdn100.iofferphoto.com/img/item/150/494/955/very-cruel-all-leather-locking-bondage-gimp-hood-mask-60bb0.jpg

Awesome! I think I gotta try it out.... Hehehe. The psychological effect will be very cool too. Bulls really jump when a prod is used. But they do have sensitive skin. (can sense a fly on them much better than us..)

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/10/2013 2:58:52 PM

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Thanks for the links Ishtar. I'm gonna dive into them proper when I get home. At first glance here at work. They are better than Gold!!

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/10/2013 3:47:02 PM

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Cattle prods are really not as bad as everybody seems to think they are. If you know how to use a violet wand properly, they can be much worse than a prod.

Awesome! I think I gotta try it out.... Hehehe. The psychological effect will be very cool too. Bulls really jump when a prod is used. But they do have sensitive skin. (can sense a fly on them much better than us..)

The standard safety stuff when playing with electricity applies (obviously) and I've never used them on the chest, cause I can't find conclusive answers on whether or not that would be a bad idea or not (sources vary tons on that)

As far as on my pain scale, the sting of a single shock with the cattle prod rates below that of a cane applied hard enough to leave a welt that lasts several days. A continuous shock varies immensely depending on where it's applied, and how long you're holding it. But it still rates below a violet wand used continuously with a pick or another concentrated tip at a heigh setting (violet wands can cause burns easily with the right tip and I've seen no evidence so far that a cattle prod can).

On thing you need to remember is that you can cause violent muscle spasms which can physically be very exhausting after only a short amount of time, and could cause pulled muscles if she's bucking extremely hard against the restraints in a bad position.

The most fun we have with a cattle prod is psychological play. Even though I know it comparatively doesn't hurt as bad as a violet wand, or as some of the other stuff he does to me, and the pain fades much faster (instantly) and the pain doesn't build up with multiple shocks being done to the same body-part (unlike a cane of a whip) the sound of the thing loading is terrifying and it's psychologically far more intimidating than just about any other toy we have.

This means you can do all sorts of fun stuff like load it, and let go of the charge before even touching her (though some of the charge sometimes stays after you let go of the button, which is a good way to first introduce it as the shock is much milder then), or charge it behind her back and hit her with a whip instead.

I once played with a sub who was terrified of trying the thing, and because I didn't know him very well I didn't want to risk him completely freaking out, I ended up with him blindfolded and me charging it so he could hear it and hitting him with a very stingy 3-fall flogger instead.

He was convinced afterwards that zapped the hell out of him, when the cattle prod didn't even come closer than about 2 feet from his back.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/10/2013 4:29:42 PM

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Ponytail hoods work for both of us, though considering how much he likes using that tail as a handle, it doesn't really help keep tangles down either.

Have you tried a braid to help keep the tangles down? Still works great as a handle.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/10/2013 4:37:36 PM

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I have, he doesn't like the look of braids (him having a ponytail fetish doesn't help there). Apparently he feels that me having to spend half an hour brushing out my hair is a small price for him to pay in not having me available for him at that time, compared to the joy he gets from the look of a ponytail.
(Putting it that way, I may have to start braiding it on purpose, who does that arrogant prick think he is anyways?)

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/10/2013 6:14:24 PM

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We have a darlex hood around here somewhere and we have used it occasionally. Some days I can wear it for long periods of time, other days, not long at all. It all depends on how sensitive my skin is feeling that day. Unfortunately there are times when my skin can't stand much of anything at all. It just feels sore to the touch, even just to a light wind. Thankfully it's not as bad as it used to be when I was young. Over the years I've learned how to control it. But there are still those occasional days when I have a breakout.

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/10/2013 9:05:01 PM

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I have phobias about suffocation -- so I don't like extreme's in this regard. (Hoods and immobilization)

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RE: Extremely long term sensory deprivation - 7/11/2013 9:24:14 AM

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OMG!! Is this gonna be sweet. I think I can milk the psychological effect for some time. That's fantastic. I'm sold. Going shoping for a prod this Friday. Wife is not a masochist at all. So punishment after a point is def not a funishment. I'm kinda Sadist so the rare punishment time is awesome. Bet this thing will excite us both for a long time. Wife likes to have scary punishments held over her. The prod sound like just the thing.

Wish she would try a hood but she seems turned off by anything more than a blindfold. (yet she loves those.). I get the impression that if I "forced" her into a hood it will ruin the mood and sour her on them. (also the falcon analogy). So. I'll wait on that. I like hoods on me tho. Have not used much in real kink tho. A friend of mine is a pro and she recommended one as a step to that cradle. Had a hard time focusing on spiritual stuff and not link. The cradle was opposite. Too imoble to feel naughty. Got right into bizness.

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