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BitYakin -> RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter option (7/7/2013 10:13:49 PM)
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ORIGINAL: DomKen
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ORIGINAL: BitYakin
you mention a 3 minute gap between the hang up and shooting, but that means there was a less than 3 minute gap between the hang up and the actual start of the confrontation...
would you say it was fair to split the differance, and assume the entire spoken part and physical contact just prior to the shot may have taken 90 seconds? leaving the uncertianty gap at more like 90 seconds?
The timeline is this
7:13:41 — Zimmerman's call to Sanford police ends.
7:16:00 - 7:16:59 — Martin's call from the girl goes dead during this minute
7:16:11 — First 911 call from witness about a fight, calls for help heard
7:16:55 — Gunshot heard on 911 call
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin
So 90 seconds or so from hangup to the fight starting looks right. But that still has him standing around in the rain for 90 seconds supposedly doing nothing. Keep in mind part of his claim about why Martin was suspicious was that Martin wasn't hurrying in that same rain.
I think it's pretty clear to everyone that Zimmerman was still looking for or following Martin.
now don't get me wrong here, but something about that doesn't add up,
first off I am going to give you more than the 90 sec I guessed at on the "gap" if my math is right seems more like 2 - 2.5 minutes gap
but here is the part that doesn't add up.
if the GF call started at 7:16:00 then there was this whole creepy ass cracker and her telling him to run then the what are you following me for? and then why are you here?
but the 911 call about a fight comes in at 7:16:11 which means the fight was already in progress, and assuming the person already had the phone in thier hand give a couple seconds to dial and connect it means all that conversation the GF said happened happend in the space of 8 or 9 seconds??? and then the phone laid there active for about 40 seconds
also notice her call ends AFTER the shot is heard on another call, 4 seconds before her disconnect but she doesn't say she heard the shot on a phone that should have been alot closer then a neighbors
I guess its possible, but doesn't sound RIGHT
it almost seems like the fight was in progress before he even called!
tray called her right, not her calling tray?
was tray using a blue tooth? maybe with a voice dial?
someone in another thread mentioned a headset...
cause it almost looks like tray called her after the fight began and had such an advantge he was calling to brag about how he was whipping this creepy ass cracker, then the shot happened and she had to make up a story that made Z look more guilty
how long after the "event" was it before she came forward with the I was on the phone with him addmission?
was it the next day, a couple days, a week?
time enough for her to realize the phone records would be checked and she'd have to tell em SOMETHING
and I am just spitballing here, trying to undertand these times and assuming they are accurate
I mean if those times are correct, I can't beleive NO ONE noticed this!
her call ends AFTER the shot is heard on another call
those times have to be estimates or just plain ole wrong!
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