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tazzygirl -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/20/2013 7:53:04 AM)
quote: Of course you are though you forgot to put a smiley this time..or a LOL could that mask be slipping? Nah why you're just as cool as a cucumber! Why thank you for noticing. I am at my best in the afternoons though. Its about time you got something right.

Wendel27 -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/20/2013 7:56:17 AM)
As right as your psychic powers and landblasting? Bless your heart [:D] Holy fuck I can do it as well! I imagined such master debating skills took years to hone.

tazzygirl -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/20/2013 8:02:01 AM)
"Bless your heart" from a Brit is simply wrong.... having heard it before I simply dissolve into giggles upon hearing it. You are just some kinda special, arent ya, darlin. Bless your pea picking lil heart! Now, see, I am from the south, I can get away with that.

Wendel27 -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/20/2013 8:03:41 AM)
''Now, see, I am from the south, I can get away with that. '' That depends on how you define getting away with it.

tazzygirl -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/20/2013 8:06:27 AM)
lol... why dont you take some time and figure it out.

igor2003 -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/20/2013 8:06:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wendel27 I'm genuinely not sure what post yours refers to Tammy. I've never suggested Martin feared he was about to be raped. I must confess i'm not sure how you've come that conclusion either. I used the example of a rape to demonstrate that a victim's behaviour, if legal, does not water down or legitimise a crime against them... I wasn't suggesting Zimmerman had wads of cash strapped to him while strolling down the Bronx either, it was an analogy. You seem to be a person that likes analogies, so here is an analogy for you to ponder: A groundskeeper at a zoo one day sees a lion that he thinks is acting strangely. Instead of waiting for the people in charge of the lions to get there, he decides to investigate it himself…telling himself that he is doing it so that he can better report on what the lion is doing (or at least that is what he later says). So he enters the cage and starts to follow the lion. The lion runs to get away, and the groundskeeper runs after the lion. Feeling threatened, the lion confronts the groundskeeper. Now the grounds keeper feels threatened and pulls a gun and shoots the lion. So, was the groundskeeper justified in killing the lion? Or should he be held accountable for the lion’s death? …or both? Certainly, AT THAT MOMENT it was probably either him or the lion, and in order to preserve his own life the groundskeeper found it necessary to kill the lion. But should he not, in some way, be held accountable for his part in having created that situation to begin with? Most of the people, on both sides of this case (Zimmerman/Martin), seem to agree on one point…that both Zimmerman and Martin didn’t handle the situation as well as they should have. And yet it seems that all the Zimmerman fans think it is just fine that Martin died and Zimmerman isn’t held accountable for his part in the follies that took place that evening. For his part, Martin paid with his life. But for Zimmerman’s part, he walks out of court a free man. The last line of the Pledge of Allegiance says, “…with liberty and justice for ALL.” Where is the justice for Martin and his family?

Wendel27 -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/20/2013 8:07:30 AM)
Though the use of lol in your next post clears that ambiguity up rather neatly.

tazzygirl -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/20/2013 8:09:26 AM)
Only to the ignorant

Wendel27 -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/20/2013 8:12:48 AM)
Martin wasn't an animal he was a human being. I'm not a Zimmerman fan Igor I don't know if what he said was true or lies. However on what he has said I don't think he is culpable...for reasons i've already stated. Namely that getting out of your car to ask someone what they're doing isn't a criminal act. Being attacked however certainly is. '' For his part, Martin paid with his life. But for Zimmerman’s part, he walks out of court a free man. The last line of the Pledge of Allegiance says, “…with liberty and justice for ALL.” Where is the justice for Martin and his family? '' In the trial. Which is based on what can be proved. To take another example where people invoke the no smoke without fire reasoning, the same justice as O.J. Simpson received. He could not be proved guilty. That's the law, Just ''knowing'' someone is isn't good enough and nor should it be.

Wendel27 -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/20/2013 8:14:07 AM)
''Only to the ignorant'' I disagree...lol

tazzygirl -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/20/2013 8:15:01 AM)
quote: For his part, Martin paid with his life. But for Zimmerman’s part, he walks out of court a free man. The last line of the Pledge of Allegiance says, “…with liberty and justice for ALL.” Where is the justice for Martin and his family? Im not sure that is true... that he is a "free man". He appears, according to his lawyer, to be living in disguises and fearing for his life. While that is very little justice for T's family.... karma is a bitch.

Raiikun -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/20/2013 8:21:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: igor2003 A groundskeeper at a zoo one day sees a lion that he thinks is acting strangely. Instead of waiting for the people in charge of the lions to get there, he decides to investigate it himself…telling himself that he is doing it so that he can better report on what the lion is doing (or at least that is what he later says). So he enters the cage and starts to follow the lion. The lion runs to get away, and the groundskeeper runs after the lion. Feeling threatened, the lion confronts the groundskeeper. Now the grounds keeper feels threatened and pulls a gun and shoots the lion. Where the groundskeeper enters the cage is what breaks the analogy, as that implies he was entering an area he shouldn't. (It was already flawed before that though of course...a lion is a known dangerous animal, where George had no reason to suspect that Trayvon would circle back and punch him in the nose.) To fix it...a groundskeeper sees an animal that he doesn't recognize roaming uncaged. He doesn't know if it's a predator, someone's pet, etc, so he calls it in. After following it for a moment, he's advised not to, so he agrees, instead looking for a landmark closest so he can describe best where to go. The animal then attacks the groundskeeper in a place where the groundskeeper is permitted to be, and he shoots to protect himself.

tj444 -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/20/2013 8:23:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kana the minor detail that Americans are just plain Bonkers. [:D]

tj444 -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/20/2013 9:03:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tammystarm And my unsolicited advice to Zimmerman , run away from the U.S.A., and try and lead a normal life you'll never get here. what country would accept him? Every country has its requirements, just as the US does.. Zimmy has no skills or degrees, no training in anything of any consequence to be given a visa.. and no job offers, who would take the risk to hire him?.. I doubt he knows any other language either.. no one willing to financially sponsor him.. not to mention the country would have to be willing to accept his wife, who also doesnt have skills most countries would view as beneficial.. and they have no money to support themselves.. other countries want peaceful law-abiding immigrants, not those with a criminal arrest history.. the chances of them being given legal entry into any sane country is low imo.. No, I am afraid the US is stuck with Zimmy..

Lucylastic -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/20/2013 9:11:41 AM)
And anywhere sane, has no gun rights, and we know he wouldnt go anywhere he couldnt carry a gun

Kirata -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/20/2013 9:11:58 AM)
~ FR ~ In a surprise move leading up to the murder trial of George Zimmerman, defense lawyers have waived his right to a “stand your ground” hearing. ~Time The shooting demonstrates the need to re-examine stand-your-ground laws nationwide. ~Eric Holder But I don't want to go among crazy people. ~Alice K.

tazzygirl -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/20/2013 9:18:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic And anywhere sane, has no gun rights, and we know he wouldnt go anywhere he couldnt carry a gun Oh heaven forbid!

Lucylastic -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/20/2013 9:24:47 AM)
LMFAO I know!!!!! Looks like you had a workout!!!! looking fabulous:)

tazzygirl -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/20/2013 9:28:01 AM)
~grins I was bored... but I found my laughs!

Lucylastic -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/20/2013 9:33:28 AM)
welll worth the effort :)

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