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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 4:39:15 AM   
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There is no certifiable evidence as to who struck whom first. There is, however, indisputable evidence that the armed chickenshit pussy instigated the whole affair,


No there isn't. And no matter how many times you claim it doesn't make it true.

And following does not equal stalking, again no matter how many times you say it.



Did Zimmerman, in his call to the 911 dispatcher, say "hello? Yeah, um, I'm being followed by this young black guy."?

No, he stated plainly that he (Z man) was watching this guy who was 'up to no good,' and then we hear his (Zimmerman's) footsteps clearly as he initiates his stalking, updating his stalking progress to the dispatcher as he went, and hear T Martin explaining to his friend about being stalked by the shaved-head creep in a red sweatshirt.


This is clearly heard in the 911 call, and in the cell phone call of Martin to his friend, no matter how many times you deny it.

What did the 911 dispatcher mean when he said "We don't need you to do that"? That Zimmerman should quit being followed by the 'suspect'? Are you daft?

Whether termed 'following' or 'stalking,' neither is socially acceptable behavior, and either or both are considered as threatening behavior in any normal society, no matter how many times you reiterate your denial of reality.




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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 5:24:21 AM   
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Correct. Martin would be equally dead, since bullets don't care who pulls the trigger, and the media/politicians, etc. would have brought whatever spin made the biggest profit from that hay.


Wrong... a young woman or an elderly man would have had the common sense to stay in the truck.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 5:25:22 AM   
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Didn't need to. I've been a shooter since I was 9. At the time I joined the reserves, I owned an M1 carbine and a couple of .22 rifles.


Then Im not sure of your point to post that the Reserves lets you train with a gun but doesnt issue you one unless you are active.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 5:29:05 AM   
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Correct. Martin would be equally dead, since bullets don't care who pulls the trigger, and the media/politicians, etc. would have brought whatever spin made the biggest profit from that hay.


Wrong... a young woman or an elderly man would have had the common sense to stay in the truck.



Any person of sound mind, of whatever age, race, or any other demographic distinction, would have had the common sense to stay in the truck, especially after being informed that the police were, even as Zimmerman and the dispatcher conversed, on their way to the scene.




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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 5:34:49 AM   
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I don't believe there is any significant momentum to change the stand your ground law in florida. nor do I believe that there will be a significant change in the right to bear arms so long as the supreme court composition remains asis.

A lot of people.. some silent, some not so silent, think stand your ground is working as designed.


This will depend on the senseless murder / acquittal rate. Fox News and co. will have a different slant when a white child is murdered in self defense. This case here does not advance the cause of stand your ground laws. The question is, what will the next case look like, and when will it occur?




You forgot an important question....how can I use this to make the other side (especially those idiots at Fox) look bad? After all, what good will someones death be if you can't use it to further your political agenda?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 5:43:45 AM   
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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 5:47:27 AM   
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There is no certifiable evidence as to who struck whom first.


No there isn't. But that won't stop you from claiming zimmy was the aggressor and labeling him along with anyone who defends him in any way a pussy.

So now I have to ask. Is it hispanics you hate? Or is it pussies?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 5:52:18 AM   
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I dont think this was racially motivated in that I dont think Z went looking for a young black male to target. Know what I mean?


Thanks tazzy, I totally believe Trayvon was targeted.
seriously
he was guility of wwb, {walking while black} around the neighborhood.

Have we heard stories of Zim chasing other people, in all his days of walking his beat?



I didn't realize that hispanics had a history of going after people just because they were black.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 5:57:34 AM   
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I have said repeatedly that Martin would also have a good self defense plea


Not if he threw the first punch. It's not self defence if you throw the first punch, and Zimmermans allegation is that the little thug wannabe threw the first punch. There's no evidence to disprove that; in spite of what all the assclowns who believe following someone is "instigating" or a crime want to believe.

BUT

I agree that if the roles were reversed you would be absolutely correct. If Zimmerman threw the first punch and was beating the little wannabes head into the concrete and got himself killed.... then thuggy-dead-kid would indeed have a good self-defence case.

-SD-

In your view losing a fist fight is a reasonable reason to use deadly force but being pursued by an armed skinhead isn't?

A to Zimmerman's "allegations" he knows self defense law and has lied about every verifiable detail of the event. Why should anyone believe him about the ones that are unverifiable?



Zimmy may have been a lot of things but a skinhead isn't one of them. But now using your logic why should we listen to anything you say since you have already proven you are not above lying.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 5:59:42 AM   
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I dont think this was racially motivated in that I dont think Z went looking for a young black male to target. Know what I mean?


Thanks tazzy, I totally believe Trayvon was targeted.
seriously
he was guility of wwb, {walking while black} around the neighborhood.

Have we heard stories of Zim chasing other people, in all his days of walking his beat?



I didn't realize that hispanics had a history of going after people just because they were black.


Who do you think was shipping slaves to us here in the states? It weren't the chinee.


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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 6:00:58 AM   
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In your view losing a fist fight is a reasonable reason to use deadly force but being pursued by an armed skinhead isn't?


1) Not "losing a fist fight"....getting "pounded into the concrete and fearing for your life as some thug tries to get your gun away from you."

2) Since when do we call a Hispanic man a skinhead? I thought skinheads were white supremacists.

3) The thug didn't know Zimmerman was armed when he attacked him. If he did, he's both psychic and stupid to attack an armed man.


You obviously dont know much about haircuts then or the origins of the skinhead movement. Black skinheads were quite common and accepted in London back in the day.



Over here it is used to reference white supremists. Funny how different words can mean different things all over the world.


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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 6:04:33 AM   
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The thug didn't know Zimmerman was armed when he attacked him. If he did, he's both psychic and stupid to attack an armed man.

In Florida, given our CC gun laws, anyone is stupid to attack a stranger. Most have learned that by now. Not a few women carry handguns in their bags. The ladies are not to be messed with either.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 6:06:13 AM   
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That was some funny stuff. Reading this thread, I now have a whole new level of sympathy for the moderators.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 6:06:42 AM   
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I dont think this was racially motivated in that I dont think Z went looking for a young black male to target. Know what I mean?


Thanks tazzy, I totally believe Trayvon was targeted.
seriously
he was guility of wwb, {walking while black} around the neighborhood.

Have we heard stories of Zim chasing other people, in all his days of walking his beat?



I didn't realize that hispanics had a history of going after people just because they were black.


Who do you think was shipping slaves to us here in the states? It weren't the chinee.



We are talking about the present. Who sold slaves a couple hundred years ago isn't really relevant. But please tell us a story about how hispanics roam the cities looking for black people walking so they can jump them.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 6:09:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Its being reported in LA.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/25/local/la-me-0126-compton-20130126

Please, dont read that as me saying its happening all over. I dont know if it is or not.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 6:11:52 AM   
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I totally believe Trayvon was targeted.
seriously
he was guility of wwb, {walking while black} around the neighborhood.

Have we heard stories of Zim chasing other people, in all his days of walking his beat?

I think the problem Trayvon Martin faced, and all blacks face to one degree or another, is that the unremitting criminality of an alienated and dysfunctional sub-culture within the black community taints people's perceptions whenever a black person is encountered in any kind of questionable circumstances.

K.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 6:12:31 AM   
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http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/25/local/la-me-0126-compton-20130126
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/efren-marquez-jeffrey-aguilar-latino-gang-hate-crime_n_2554282.html
http://www.vdare.com/posts/the-nation-on-hispanic-violence-against-blacks-in-los-angeles

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 6:19:03 AM   
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Its being reported in LA.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/25/local/la-me-0126-compton-20130126

Please, dont read that as me saying its happening all over. I dont know if it is or not.



I think gang violence is happening in most of the big cities. Has been for quite a while and some of the gangs are formed based on race. What does that have to do with the suggestion that hispanics go around and target people based on their color? Now I know there are a lot of whites who do this (think racial profiling), but this is the first time I have seen hispanics accused of it.

My guess is the ones who are claiming that zimmy only went after trayvon because he was "WWB" are still thinking of zimmy as a white man.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 6:21:50 AM   
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Why the fuck are you talking so ignorant and lazy, your google broke? You think it don't happens? Big stuff in CA. Stuff your snark up your ass today.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/25/local/la-me-0126-compton-20130126
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/efren-marquez-jeffrey-aguilar-latino-gang-hate-crime_n_2554282.html
http://www.vdare.com/posts/the-nation-on-hispanic-violence-against-blacks-in-los-angeles



why are you being so ignorant? You know damn well I am not talking about gang violence. A poster suggested that zimmy was only after trayvon because he was WWB and I pointed out that was a charge that was usually aimed at whites, not hispanics. Do try and keep up.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 6:25:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		You try to keep up. Whatever a WWB is I don't know. But Zimmerman certainly did:

while talking to a police dispatcher Zimmerman said of Trayvon, “Fucking punks, these assholes, they always get away.”

I am reticent to attribute those statements to his disgust of skittles and iced-tea.

You wanna parse something else out of it with any credibility?

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