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thompsonx -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/16/2013 7:07:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

After 25 years, the services are looking for a newer weapon.


The 1911 .45 is hardly a new weaon.


The marines are not all that pleased with that little girls gun and have started askng for their .45 back.






Powergamz1 -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/16/2013 7:08:04 AM)

According to which 'those'? Don Black? David Duke?

Zimmerman's grandmother was Afro-Caribbean, his mother is Afro Hispanic.

Anyone who isn't looking out from the inside of a KKK hood can see that he's not white.

Back to StormFront with you.


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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You've also consistently argued in support of the racism inherent in the internet/media attempts to lynch an Hispanic man


According to those who feel that there are more than one race on this planet, hispanics are caucasians. Didn't the law school you went to have a library?





eulero83 -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/16/2013 7:08:33 AM)

I think "the people of florida" are taking a dangerous path if self defence can be claimed even when the defendant actively created the sitution that lead to the fight, this is against the concept of public safety. When you chase and leave a safe place to confront someone you are not defending yourself, you are attacking, and if you do because confident that when things turn in favour of your opponent you can use your gun, it's premeditation.




Marc2b -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/16/2013 7:09:13 AM)

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They were vacation resorts compared to Indian Reservations.


Maybe... but debatable.


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They were temporary.


So what? A temporary abridgment of you freedom is still an abridgment of you freedom.


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They were inspired in part by the (misguided) thought to protect Japanese-Americans from reprisals and from the (overestimated) fear of sleeper agents.


Bullshit. That was just and excuse to justify what was an obviously racist program. In a few cases there may have been some justification - contrary to popular belief there were some German-Americans and some Italian Americans who were interred - but the vast majority were Japanese. Why. Because they were different. There weren't white, they had funny eyes and funny accents.




Powergamz1 -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/16/2013 7:10:37 AM)

The Beretta M9 was adopted in 1985. As you would know, had you ever served.

That'll be 3 strikes for you.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

After 25 years, the services are looking for a newer weapon.


The 1911 .45 is hardly a new weaon.


The marines are not all that pleased with that little girls gun and have started askng for their .45 back.








Kana -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/16/2013 7:12:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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They were vacation resorts compared to Indian Reservations.


Maybe... but debatable.


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They were temporary.


So what? A temporary abridgment of you freedom is still an abridgment of you freedom.


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They were inspired in part by the (misguided) thought to protect Japanese-Americans from reprisals and from the (overestimated) fear of sleeper agents.


Bullshit. That was just and excuse to justify what was an obviously racist program. In a few cases there may have been some justification - contrary to popular belief there were some German-Americans and some Italian Americans who were interred - but the vast majority were Japanese. Why. Because they were different. There weren't white, they had funny eyes and funny accents.

Of course it was racist. Of course the camps were unethical and illegal.But lets be clear why Japanese were interned and Germans weren't. The German American population was large enough to influence an election. The Japanese made the mistake of being a political micro-minority, rendering them politically unnecessary.




MasterCaneman -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/16/2013 7:13:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman
If you're shooting at a charging dog, you shoot center mass unless you're a 'real' operator. And while the 9mm in standard NATO drag is a bit wimpy, there are much better loads on the market.

And you're going to draw a crappy little pistol and put a round on center mass of a dog that is charging you how consistently? I'm a good shot and I doubt I could make the shot reliably in that actual situation.


Never said it'd be easy, just more reasonable that trying to perform a head shot on a fast-moving target. And since I've carried and shot that 'crappy little pistol's' older brother for about ten years (Kel-Tec P-11), I could make that shot. I've put maybe, four to five thousand rounds through mine in that time. Not easy or safe, but doable.

To be honest, I would prefer to use a chemical spray on one myself-less chance of the irresponsible owners suing you for capping Fido later, and you wouldn't be putting innocents downrange at risk.




Marc2b -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/16/2013 7:13:43 AM)

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You see post history as you want... I see it differently....

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4322857


I fail to see how your example (which deals with sexism, not racism) disproves my point that Fargle, despite his outlandish rhetoric, is anti-racist (and anti-sexist for that matter).




thompsonx -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/16/2013 7:16:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

Do feel free to give a direct link to any valid legal resource that says that citizen's arrest is actually kidnapping.



You claim to have gone to law school but do not know what constitutes kidnap.
You claim to have gone to law school but do not seem to know what is required for a lawful "citizens arrest".
Perhaps next time you will go to real law school where they have a library,classrooms and teachers.




Powergamz1 -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/16/2013 7:18:05 AM)

The notion that someone can defend themselves based on what is happening at the moment, instead of on shoulda-coulda-woulda media hyped 20/20 hindsight, is bedrock common law and common sense.

The 'people of Florida' didn't write the decades old Supreme Court rulings

The rest of your legal assertions are unsupported by reality. A brown skinned person following you is not an 'attack', nor is going armed under a CCW, 'premeditation'.


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ORIGINAL: eulero83

I think "the people of florida" are taking a dangerous path if self defence can be claimed even when the defendant actively created the sitution that lead to the fight, this is against the concept of public safety. When you chase and leave a safe place to confront someone you are not defending yourself, you are attacking, and if you do because confident that when things turn in favour of your opponent you can use your gun, it's premeditation.





tazzygirl -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/16/2013 7:18:55 AM)

And you obviously see nothing wrong with labeling a whole group of people racist based upon what he perceives as racism.... no one brought any mention of race into that conversation except fargle. The thread, nor the OP, had anything to do with race... except in fargle's mind. The fact that Kirata pegged it correctly was actually a telling... and hysterical... moment.




Kana -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/16/2013 7:19:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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You see post history as you want... I see it differently....

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4322857


I fail to see how your example (which deals with sexism, not racism) disproves my point that Fargle, despite his outlandish rhetoric, is anti-racist (and anti-sexist for that matter).

I think that people who constantly make things about race, whether they are or not, are racists. I don't think I'm alone in that here.

This isn't a racial case.In never was.never should have been seen as such.
The jury sure didn't:
"While the George Zimmerman second-degree murder trial was viewed as racially charged, an anonymous juror told CNN's Anderson Cooper Monday night that the issue of race didn't come up during deliberations.

"I thought all of us did not think race played a role" in 17-year-old Trayvon Martin's death, a juror known as B37 told Cooper"

But a certain embedded element with the media and here seem to be obsessed with race (In fargles case,lynching) and have done everything within their power to make this a racial case.
Which is bizarre,because as has been beaten to death,Z is half latin,maybe has a black grandma-how white folk got dragged into this is beyond me...




thompsonx -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/16/2013 7:20:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Kana


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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You've also consistently argued in support of the racism inherent in the internet/media attempts to lynch an Hispanic man


According to those who feel that there are more than one race on this planet, hispanics are caucasians. Didn't the law school you went to have a library?

Dude,writing in bold doesn't help your points. Hispanic is recognized as a legal minority by the US Govt. Done deal.



Get a fucking dictionary. Minority does not equal race.
When you start sucking my cock and paying my rent you may suggest alterations in my posting style. Until that time you may continue to kiss my ass.




Marc2b -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/16/2013 7:23:57 AM)

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Of course it was racist. Of course the camps were unethical and illegal.But lets be clear why Japanese were interned and Germans weren't. The German American population was large enough to influence an election. The Japanese made the mistake of being a political micro-minority, rendering them politically unnecessary.


The Germans (and white people in general) had quite the head start on the Japanese (and Asians in general) in immigrating to America but that doesn't change the fact that the United States has a well documented history of anti-Asian discrimination. Fears of the "yellow peril" existed well before the attack on pearl harbor.




Powergamz1 -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/16/2013 7:24:51 AM)

Maybe the issue of race never came up, because the jurors were dealing with the actual undoctored 911 tape and not the pack of lies that have been peddled here?

Just a thought...[;)]


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ORIGINAL: Kana

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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You see post history as you want... I see it differently....

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4322857


I fail to see how your example (which deals with sexism, not racism) disproves my point that Fargle, despite his outlandish rhetoric, is anti-racist (and anti-sexist for that matter).

I think that people who constantly make things about race, whether they are or not, are racists. I don't think I'm alone in that here.

This isn't a racial case.In never was.never should have been seen as such.
The jury sure didn't:
"While the George Zimmerman second-degree murder trial was viewed as racially charged, an anonymous juror told CNN's Anderson Cooper Monday night that the issue of race didn't come up during deliberations.

"I thought all of us did not think race played a role" in 17-year-old Trayvon Martin's death, a juror known as B37 told Cooper"

But a certain embedded element with the media and here seem to be obsessed with race (In fargles case,lynching) and have done everything within their power to make this a racial case.
Which is bizarre,because as has been beaten to death,Z is half latin,maybe has a black grandma-how white folk got dragged into this is beyond me...





Kana -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/16/2013 7:28:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: Kana


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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You've also consistently argued in support of the racism inherent in the internet/media attempts to lynch an Hispanic man


According to those who feel that there are more than one race on this planet, hispanics are caucasians. Didn't the law school you went to have a library?

Dude,writing in bold doesn't help your points. Hispanic is recognized as a legal minority by the US Govt. Done deal.



Get a fucking dictionary. Minority does not equal race.
When you start sucking my cock and paying my rent you may suggest alterations in my posting style. Until that time you may continue to kiss my ass.


Ahhh,the true colors come out and the threats culminate. It's amazing how quickly haters show who and what they really are.

Yeah dude, really.
First of all,when a citizen makes an arrest,it ain't kidnapping. At worst,it tends to be "unlawful detainment." Two,the state threw what they could at Z (Child abuse.Really?),hadthey a chance at a kidnapping charge they would have ran with it,and three, this didn't happen,never will and thus you are wasting time and energy playing woulda/coulda/shoulda-it'sonly a theoretical.
I deal with facts,son.
You're throwing out red herrings,spouting what if's?/
The jury delivered a verdict.
They did so in spite of the fact that the powers that be did everything they could to destroy Z,whether legal or not. They appointed a hand picked special prosecutor with a brutal reputation. The judge was hostile.The prosecution deliberately withheld evidence? They fired a whistleblower who came forward for coming forward.The media manufactured lie after lie after lie.
Yet still,six US citizens, randomly selected,agreed to by both parties,let Z walk.
why? Because we are a nation of law.Not race baiting knee jerk reactionaries who spout nonsense they know nothing about. In bold,to make their anger and viciousness plain as day for the world to see.
Thanks Hoss




thompsonx -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/16/2013 7:28:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

According to which 'those'? Don Black? David Duke?


Your idols do not interest me.
If you wish to educate yourself I would suggest any college level text on cultural anthropology.


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Zimmerman's grandmother was Afro-Caribbean, his mother is Afro Hispanic.

Anyone who isn't looking out from the inside of a KKK hood can see that he's not white.

Back to StormFront with you.


It was you who claimed he was hispanic and this was a racist proscution...I simply pointed out your ignorance.


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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You've also consistently argued in support of the racism inherent in the internet/media attempts to lynch an Hispanic man


According to those who feel that there are more than one race on this planet, hispanics are caucasians. Didn't the law school you went to have a library?






Powergamz1 -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/16/2013 7:28:34 AM)

How ironic of you. As pointed out before, the racist roots of gun control, to which SYG was a defeat, go all the way back to the anti Chinese laws, in which the fundamental human right to self defense was denied to the race with least power.



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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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Of course it was racist. Of course the camps were unethical and illegal.But lets be clear why Japanese were interned and Germans weren't. The German American population was large enough to influence an election. The Japanese made the mistake of being a political micro-minority, rendering them politically unnecessary.


The Germans (and white people in general) had quite the head start on the Japanese (and Asians in general) in immigrating to America but that doesn't change the fact that the United States has a well documented history of anti-Asian discrimination. Fears of the "yellow peril" existed well before the attack on pearl harbor.





thompsonx -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/16/2013 7:33:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

The Beretta M9 was adopted in 1985. As you would know, had you ever served.

That'll be 3 strikes for you.




I got out of the military in 1967. That is nearly 20 years before the military decided to go with a girls gun.




Kana -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/16/2013 7:37:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

How ironic of you. As pointed out before, the racist roots of gun control, to which SYG was a defeat, go all the way back to the anti Chinese laws, in which the fundamental human right to self defense was benied to the race with least power.



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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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Of course it was racist. Of course the camps were unethical and illegal.But lets be clear why Japanese were interned and Germans weren't. The German American population was large enough to influence an election. The Japanese made the mistake of being a political micro-minority, rendering them politically unnecessary.


The Germans (and white people in general) had quite the head start on the Japanese (and Asians in general) in immigrating to America but that doesn't change the fact that the United States has a well documented history of anti-Asian discrimination. Fears of the "yellow peril" existed well before the attack on pearl harbor.



Even better.The first gun control laws with teeth in america came in Oakland,Ca in the late Sixties.
Why?
Because carloads of heavily armed Black panthers were starting to follow the extremely racist,brutal Oakland police through the ghettos and when the cops would start brutalizing a black,the Panthers would get out of the cars armed to the teeth and surround the scene.Not do anything, just stand there with hands full of cold iron.
For some reason made the Oakland PD somewhat nervous.
The political brouhaha led to this moment:
"The eighth-grade students gathering on the west lawn of the state capitol in Sacramento were planning to lunch on fried chicken with California’s new governor, Ronald Reagan, and then tour the granite building constructed a century earlier to resemble the nation’s Capitol. But the festivities were interrupted by the arrival of 30 young black men and women carrying .357 Magnums, 12-gauge shotguns, and .45-caliber pistols.

The 24 men and six women climbed the capitol steps, and one man, Bobby Seale, began to read from a prepared statement. “The American people in general and the black people in particular,” he announced, must take careful note of the racist California legislature aimed at keeping the black people disarmed and powerless Black people have begged, prayed, petitioned, demonstrated, and everything else to get the racist power structure of America to right the wrongs which have historically been perpetuated against black people The time has come for black people to arm themselves against this terror before it is too late.

Seale then turned to the others. “All right, brothers, come on. We’re going inside.” He opened the door, and the radicals walked straight into the state’s most important government building, loaded guns in hand. No metal detectors stood in their way.

It was May 2, 1967, and the Black Panthers’ invasion of the California statehouse launched the modern gun-rights movement. "

One of the great ironies of our times is that gun control started as anti-black and was almost entirely racially motivated.




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