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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/16/2013 9:09:41 AM   
Kana


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Why do blacks commit 80% of the crimes?
Well lets see - they drop ouf ot high school in fargreater numbers. They have a sub-culture that things pimping, whoring, and drug dealing is ok. Jobs are for stiffs.


It's a bit more than that my man. The drug war is a huge part of this.Vast amounts of black fathers are in jail.It's led to an entire subculture based around an outlaw black market with resultant violence,incarceration, damage to social structures.
We have a long history of redlining and other laws designed to ghettoize blacks, there's a liquor store and a pawn shop(Which sell guns) on every corner in the hood,which ain't the case in the white burbs.Someone passes those laws, allows that zoning.
We have a criminal justice system that convicts/imprisons blacks in disproportionate numbers. Black schools are awful,especially in the urban centers. Infrastructure investment isn't expended. tax bases have crumbled.
The economic opportunities are nonexistent. The list goes on and on.


American society,history, and laws have contributed massively to this problem.

Pointing a blaming finger solves nothing, at any side. The real freaking question is, "OK, we have a problem,not a black problem or a white problem,but an American problem,one that affects and costs every citizen-what the fuck are we going to do about it?"


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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/16/2013 9:12:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman


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If you're shooting at a charging dog, you shoot center mass unless you're a 'real' operator. And while the 9mm in standard NATO drag is a bit wimpy, there are much better loads on the market.

And you're going to draw a crappy little pistol and put a round on center mass of a dog that is charging you how consistently? I'm a good shot and I doubt I could make the shot reliably in that actual situation.


Never said it'd be easy, just more reasonable that trying to perform a head shot on a fast-moving target. And since I've carried and shot that 'crappy little pistol's' older brother for about ten years (Kel-Tec P-11), I could make that shot. I've put maybe, four to five thousand rounds through mine in that time. Not easy or safe, but doable.

To be honest, I would prefer to use a chemical spray on one myself-less chance of the irresponsible owners suing you for capping Fido later, and you wouldn't be putting innocents downrange at risk.

Which is my point. Getting a gun to stop an actually dangerous dog is a risky proposition and I have to wonder if a cop actually told him hat or if it was simply the story he told his friend about why he was getting a CCW.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/16/2013 9:13:48 AM   
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American society,history, and laws have contributed massively to this problem.

Pointing a blaming finger solves nothing, at any side. The real freaking question is, "OK, we have a problem,not a black problem or a white problem,but an American problem,one that affects and costs every citizen-what the fuck are we going to do about it?"


Now don't go getting all rational on me....

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/16/2013 9:14:04 AM   
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It's pathetic that a states justice system and laws have gotten so perverted that they have literally upended one of the most basic tenets of American jurisprudence...

It would seem to me that the most basic tenet of American jurisprudence is that the accused is innocent until proven guilty.

Maybe you need to brush up on English. "one of the" does not equal "the"

Maybe you need to brush up on your English comprehension. I said exactly what I meant, and I meant it exactly the way I said it. So now that I've given you a clue, see if you can puzzle out what it means.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you were simply too fucking stupid to read what I wrote. I see that instead you were just making a completely irrelevant comment that had no bearing on the point I was making to someone else.

Buzzzzzzzz... I'm sorry, that's not the correct answer. Thanks for being on the show.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/16/2013 9:16:02 AM   
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Okay, I'm going to come to Fargle's defense here.

I can certainly see how his comments about various types of lawyers could be misconstrued by a newbie but us Collarme veterans should be familiar with farglecarb by now.

You've all been here long enough to know that outrageous, over-the-top, highly sarcastic, rhetoric is his stock and trade.

Yes, I can see how, even knowing that, some might still be offended (personally, I think the N-word should not be used at a matter of simple civility) but let's bear in mind that the farglebargles of the world are not the one's looking at black boys walking down the street and thinking "uh oh," and thus initiating a chain of of events leading to their deaths.

ETA: Let us direct our anger where it belongs. At the legal system that let down this young man and the racist shitheads who applaud his successful killing.



Are you suggesting we should just ignore the racist comments from those who think he was guilty. So it's ok for farg to claim that white lawyers are better than black because he would not have followed tray? Interesting logic there. Stupid, but interesting.


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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/16/2013 9:19:47 AM   
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When you see racism in people who aren't racists, where do you suppose the "racism" you're seeing is coming from?


This presumes there is such a thing as people who aren't racist. I don't believe that such a creature exists. It goes against human nature, it goes against human history, it goes against everything I have observed during forty-seven years of life.


You don't believe a non-racial person exists? Really? I pity you for having such little faith in mother nature.

Now that is some funny shit coming from quite possibly the most racist regular poster here.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/16/2013 9:21:26 AM   
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I'll trump you and go one further Marc.
I don't think there's anything wrong with being proud of your race - and wanting it to succeed and do well.
And, since the constitution says we have the right of free association - of associating with whom we want. Seeing as how we all do that already.

I also think that if people are dumb enough to use race on the basis of hiring, housing etc - well they're stupid.
Being completely UNPC - why is it that only blacks have such a negative persistent stereotype. We've had italians, irish, koreans, chinese, cubans, mexicans
Yet almost uniquely, the largest continuing problems is with blacks.

Why is that?

Maybe it is due to centuries of slavery, a century of Jim Crowe and persistent subtle racism that continues to this day.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/16/2013 9:24:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata
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ORIGINAL: DomKen
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ORIGINAL: Kirata
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

It's pathetic that a states justice system and laws have gotten so perverted that they have literally upended one of the most basic tenets of American jurisprudence...

It would seem to me that the most basic tenet of American jurisprudence is that the accused is innocent until proven guilty.

Maybe you need to brush up on English. "one of the" does not equal "the"

Maybe you need to brush up on your English comprehension. I said exactly what I meant, and I meant it exactly the way I said it. So now that I've given you a clue, see if you can puzzle out what it means.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you were simply too fucking stupid to read what I wrote. I see that instead you were just making a completely irrelevant comment that had no bearing on the point I was making to someone else.

Buzzzzzzzz... I'm sorry, that's not the correct answer. Thanks for being on the show.

K.


As usual nothing to actually contribute. You're actually pathetic. Try to actually contribute to a thread sometime.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/16/2013 9:28:04 AM   
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Buzzzzzzzz... I'm sorry, that's not the correct answer. Thanks for being on the show.

As usual nothing to actually contribute. You're actually pathetic. Try to actually contribute to a thread sometime.



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/16/2013 9:32:33 AM   
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Enough ignorant comments to fill a book with, its sickening whoever is doing it....
shows an awful lot about a lot of people.... and using racism as the reason "everyone" think he is guilty is the most fucked up of them all.
All the last couple of pages stating everyone is racist is pathetic dickwaving n trumped up bullshit.... the paranoia hate and utter crap being spouted is chest thumping machismo at its ugliest but predictable

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/16/2013 9:34:24 AM   
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~ FR ~

For those who speculate on why Trayvon may have reacted the way he was alleged to have done, enter homophobia...

MORGAN: And he was freaked out by it?

JEANTEL: Yes. Definitely after I say may be a rapist, for every boy, for every man, every -- who's not that kind of way, seeing a grown man following them, would they be creep out?


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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/16/2013 9:42:35 AM   
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~ FR ~

For those who speculate on why Trayvon may have reacted the way he was alleged to have done, enter homophobia...

MORGAN: And he was freaked out by it?

JEANTEL: Yes. Definitely after I say may be a rapist, for every boy, for every man, every -- who's not that kind of way, seeing a grown man following them, would they be creep out?


Source

K.


she stated that during the trial to that horrible lawyer West.. that the "creepy ass" part of the comment meant "perv/pervert".. what other kinda pervert is there? seems to me few people grasped that..

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/16/2013 9:43:39 AM   
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Again you try to hide behind the fallacy that racism is a single thing, and all people are the same in their racism. That's BS. I'm not the one who has been posting lie after lie in support of lynching a a brown skinned young man.

The fact that you have such a problem with the notion that any person of color could ever be innocent until proven guilty, is what's wrong with your rhetoric.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/16/2013 9:45:23 AM   
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You just seriously endorsed the gay panic defense? You aren't even trying to keep the hood from slipping, are you??
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~ FR ~

For those who speculate on why Trayvon may have reacted the way he was alleged to have done, enter homophobia...

MORGAN: And he was freaked out by it?

JEANTEL: Yes. Definitely after I say may be a rapist, for every boy, for every man, every -- who's not that kind of way, seeing a grown man following them, would they be creep out?


Source

K.


she stated that during the trial to that horrible lawyer West.. that the "creepy ass" part of the comment meant "perv/pervert".. what other kinda pervert is there? seems to me few people grasped that..



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/16/2013 9:46:53 AM   
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Project much?
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Enough ignorant comments to fill a book with, its sickening whoever is doing it....
shows an awful lot about a lot of people.... and using racism as the reason "everyone" think he is guilty is the most fucked up of them all.
All the last couple of pages stating everyone is racist is pathetic dickwaving n trumped up bullshit.... the paranoia hate and utter crap being spouted is chest thumping machismo at its ugliest but predictable



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/16/2013 9:51:11 AM   
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LIMBAUGH: JEANTEL CALLED ZIMMEMAN A HOMOSEXUAL PREDATOR... WARNED GAY MEN GO AFTER CHILDREN... DEVELOPING..

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/16/2013 9:52:06 AM   
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put up or shut up ...last time you ran away, you sure havent proven racism by me, or anynumber of people who have commented...
You on the other hand are full of it.
so yanno you can just go jerk yourself a nice piece of shit


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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/16/2013 9:53:36 AM   
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LIMBAUGH: JEANTEL CALLED ZIMMEMAN A HOMOSEXUAL PREDATOR... WARNED GAY MEN GO AFTER CHILDREN... DEVELOPING..

drudge

who cares what that dickhead has to say.... typical rush, just more flames to the fire....like it needs any help from anyone


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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/16/2013 9:57:24 AM   
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My thoughts,
If you want racism to stop ,
Then stop bringing it into it.


R.I.P. treyvon!

No one won this battle
Sad at the state of the American people.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/16/2013 9:58:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Enough ignorant comments to fill a book with, its sickening whoever is doing it....
shows an awful lot about a lot of people.... and using racism as the reason "everyone" think he is guilty is the most fucked up of them all.
All the last couple of pages stating everyone is racist is pathetic dickwaving n trumped up bullshit.... the paranoia hate and utter crap being spouted is chest thumping machismo at its ugliest but predictable



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