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ORIGINAL: BBBTBW

OH GOOD LORD, If you are not racist, PLEASE DIG A HOLE AND BURY IT. Its the race baiters that keep racism alive and well. We don't have to lower ourselves to their trivial crap.

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

I'm not sure why I want to wander into another shit storm but...



It's a set up folks. He took the words from a black church and replaced the word black with white.

The whole point of this exercise is, of course, to point out that black people can be racists too.

Well, no fucking shit.

But so what?

Black racism and white racism are not on an equal footing. When black people enslave white people for over two hundred years, oppress white people with discriminatory laws for over a hundred and fifty years, and create a "justice" system that disproportionately targets white people and then black people say "look how many white people have been convicted of crimes, that proves they are naturally criminal..."

Then white people will have a reason for a National Organization for the Advancement of White People.

Until then, the notion is laughable.

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

FR

I found this an interesting and thoughtful reflection on race and bias. Others might too.

Two excerpts:

Race, bias and the Zimmerman jury

Our acceptance of other people and cultures is a recent development in human history. The thousands of years of survival training we have acquired in our slow march up the Homo sapiens ladder have taught us to fear and suspect others who do not look and act like us.

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So, despite our noble desire to love our fellow man, we are all suspicious of "The Other" -- in this case, the young man in a hoodie in the rain. Whether that figure comes in the form of a black teenager, a gay co-worker, the Muslim neighbor, the overweight teacher, the barista with the tattoos and piercings, or, yes, even the gun owner, we all have biases. And yet most of us will never admit we have them, placing our own Gandhi-like bias-free self-image on a pillar of fairness and equity. But the truth is, the more we deny we have biases, the more we broaden and deepen those prejudices. (Emphasis mine)

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/16/opinion/gabriel-bias-zimmerman/index.html?hpt=op_t1

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Funny, you never seen chinese on the basketball scouting report. Surely we should waste tons of time on the 4 ft chinese dude. I mean - he may have an incredible vertical leap.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

Not as race bait. It was fish bait. And you hit it like a starving grouper.

K.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

We'll see if we can get Zimmerman's jury for you

You're a kind soul, Rich.

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Railing against stereotypes is like commanding the tide to cease coming in. Pointless. Stupid.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

How would you characterize the OP

Not as race bait. It was fish bait. And you hit it like a starving grouper.

K.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

How would you characterize the OP

Not as race bait. It was fish bait. And you hit it like a starving grouper.

K.

I saw you as wiggling the worm pretty solidly, defining racebaiting and saying he wasnt doing what you defined. And pretending that this thread is anything less than the stupidest of shit in the internet.

You gobbled it up like a minneapolis airport bathroom republican gobbles cock.

Coming from someone who was the first guy to fit the church I described for hoods and sheets ...

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail (Second Post/First Response in this thread)

They already have the KKK, and it is better organized, why invent the wheel, nobody wants to be a wannabe-KKK guy, they wanna be KKK.

Sometimes, there's no irony like truth. Since I was likened to a Minnesota Republican (yada, yada, yada.), I would liken this situation to poor Fat Al Sharpton whenTawana Brawley had to fess up to being full of shit (Even Bill Cosby got some egg on his face in that mishkadenze).





Peace and comfort,



Michael

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Yes, I knew that it was a quote from a black church - and having worked at a black NGO this kind of ridiculous crap goes on all the time. Blacks at the NGO were seriously believing they could declare themselves their own sovereign country to avoid paying taxes.

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Got news for you bucko. Black racism and white racism ARE on an equal footing. Or have you forgotten that blacks of one nation or tribe would enslave blacks of another nation and tribe and then sell them to the evil whites?

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Do you really think blacks are morally superior to whites. Or, do you think that given equal power blacks might do the same or worse? If you need evidence of that lets just take a bet on how many hispanics get beat up 'for trayvon'.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

~FR

http://open.salon.com/blog/sagemerlin/2012/08/23/whats_race_baiting_and_whats_not

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Joe Biden has been accused of explicit race-baiting on the basis of his speech in Danville, Virginia

Biden said: "He (Romney) is going to let the big banks once again write their own rules, unchain Wall Street. He is going to put y'all back in chains."

The Republican party has jumped all over Biden, claiming foul....but is this really "explicit race baiting?"

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Speaking to the civil-rights group, Perot recounted his family's ties to blacks in Texarkana, Texas, recited his hope to make the nation's "melting-pot" diversity a strength, and offered his standard anti-crime, clean-up-the-economy speech.

"Financially at least, it's going to be a long, hot summer," Perot told the group. "Now I don't have to tell you who gets hurt first when this sort of thing happens, do I?

"You people do, your people do. I know that, you know that,"

Someone in the audience yelled at Perot to protest the "you people" term, but Perot didn't hear. Two men yelled again, one saying "Correct it!," and Perot, appearing again to not hear, said simply, "Thank you, sir."

He went on, and later repeated the term. Applause from the audience was sporadic and polite, and NAACP executive director Benjamin Hooks said he saw people cringe at some of Perot's wording.

Other officials from the organization, which traditionally leans toward Democratic candidates, said Perot was simply naive.

" `You people' is not a term you use to an African-American audience," said Lacy Steele, an NAACP national board member from Bellevue, Wash. "The term `you people' shows he is not sensitive to African Americans. People in the audience were beginning to get very frustrated."

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ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman

We will have racial problems as long as it is convenient for the political forces in this country. They are merely a tool to garner votes and keep a certain subset of the population in control of the rest of the country. It's a convenient way to redirect attention from what's really happening.

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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Yes, I knew that it was a quote from a black church - and having worked at a black NGO this kind of ridiculous crap goes on all the time. Blacks at the NGO were seriously believing they could declare themselves their own sovereign country to avoid paying taxes.

The fact that black people can be just as crazy as white people is not news. No "race" has a monopoly on either virtue or vice. Human nature is pretty much the same wherever you go.

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Got news for you bucko. Black racism and white racism ARE on an equal footing. Or have you forgotten that blacks of one nation or tribe would enslave blacks of another nation and tribe and then sell them to the evil whites?

Black people were selling black people to white people here in America? The fact that some African tribes participated in the slave trade in no way absolves the Europeans who did the same in order to satisfy European (including American) desire for cheap labor.

As for here in the United States in 2013, I tell you what, I will believe that white and black racism are on an equal footing when:

A white person has a greater chance of being convicted of a crime because he is white.

A white person has a greater chance of receiving a harsher sentence when convicted of a crime.

A white person has a lesser chance of getting a bank loan because he is white.

A white person has a lesser chance of being rented a home or apartment because he is white.

A white person moving into a neighborhood does not cause property values to go down.

White teenagers vandalizing a car generate more police calls than black teenagers vandalizing a car... or black men sleeping in a car.

A young white man walking down the street at night is more likely than a young black man walking down the street at night to be judged a "punk" and an "asshole," and assumed to be up to no good and ends up dead on the ground as a result.

I could go on (and on and on and on) but I think the point is made.

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Do you really think blacks are morally superior to whites. Or, do you think that given equal power blacks might do the same or worse? If you need evidence of that lets just take a bet on how many hispanics get beat up 'for trayvon'.

No I do not think that black people are morally superior to white people nor do I think that given greater power (not equal because white people currently have greater power and equal power is what is needed) that they would not abuse it... human nature being what it is.

What you fail to understand is that white racism is backed up by society. Until that changes black racism and white racism will not be on an equal footing.

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