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stef -> RE: Women Getting Rude Emails - A Rant From Kansas (7/21/2013 11:42:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UonBndedNee Women Getting Rude Communication "If she didn't want that kind of attention she shouldn't have dressed that way." Yeah, gotcha.

Rawni -> RE: Women Getting Rude Emails - A Rant From Kansas (7/21/2013 11:42:53 AM)
Out of all the great posts... you respond to mine? Interesting. One week here doesn't mean inexperienced. It could mean impatient or pushy though.

OsideGirl -> RE: Women Getting Rude Emails - A Rant From Kansas (7/21/2013 11:48:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: UonBndedNee Women Getting Rude Communication "If she didn't want that kind of attention she shouldn't have dressed that way." Yeah, gotcha. You'll notice that he's calling out the women rather than calling out his fellow males.

DesFIP -> RE: Women Getting Rude Emails - A Rant From Kansas (7/21/2013 11:50:47 AM)
What's with the giant font, op? I can't get far enough away from the computer to read it. And I'm not interested in walking across the room to do so. However, anybody who says he's looking for his first and also thinks he has it all figured out, doesn't. You're fantasizing and you want someone who magically has read that script in your head. Ain't happening. Date, see what other people want. Explore, think about how it was and if it's really as hot as you thought it would be. Because reality is totally different than in your head. Really want a total slave? Does that include waiting for you to tell her what to make for dinner every night? You want her to bring you the pickle jar so you can choose the pickle for your sandwich? Or do you want someone who will tell you when you missed your exit so you don't keep driving another hour in the wrong direction? You don't get it both ways.

UllrsIshtar -> RE: Women Getting Rude Emails - A Rant From Kansas (7/21/2013 11:52:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP Because reality is totally different than in your head. Really want a total slave? Does that include waiting for you to tell her what to make for dinner every night? You want her to bring you the pickle jar so you can choose the pickle for your sandwich? Or do you want someone who will tell you when you missed your exit so you don't keep driving another hour in the wrong direction? You don't get it both ways. I don't see how one excludes the other. Care to enlighten me?

Rawni -> RE: Women Getting Rude Emails - A Rant From Kansas (7/21/2013 11:53:00 AM)
I just did a search in Kansas. I found one submissive not dressed that didn't complain and the rest were mild and no complaints in the last day of log ins. Found some that were clearly fakes... but other than that, the women were dressed okay, nothing extreme and no real complaints. Anyone after these, that was nude tastefully or showing any skin, had a dominant. So, where are all these nasty girls that are getting the bad emails, that might deserve it, coming from?

UonBndedNee -> RE: Women Getting Rude Emails - A Rant From Kansas (7/21/2013 11:58:16 AM)
Well at least I got a discussion going. My post was an observation and an opinion. It was not meant to be a "covert" ad or me trying to tell anyone how to act or behave. But one shouldn't be offended about an email if they do not provide enough information about what they are looking for. I know that it's not going to stop all of the asshole comment that are made simple because the sender thinks it's funny. But it does help those of us that are really searching to have an idea of what the other person is looking for. At least some idea. Just give a hint. And yes, I will admit, I should not have used the word "True" or given any impression that my opinion is the way that a DOM thinks or acts. So any reference that gives the impression that ALL Doms think a certain way should be change to a first person reference. The post reflects my personal point of view and in no way should be taken as the opinion of anyone else.

Rawni -> RE: Women Getting Rude Emails - A Rant From Kansas (7/21/2013 12:01:31 PM)
So you vented, addressed an issue that really doesn't seem to be a huge issue, by way of a vent, while blaming women for the most part, to get some discussion going? [:D][:D][:D][:D]

UllrsIshtar -> RE: Women Getting Rude Emails - A Rant From Kansas (7/21/2013 12:02:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UonBndedNee But one shouldn't be offended about an email if they do not provide enough information about what they are looking for. Why are you mailing people who don't provide enough information as to what they are looking for? Are you really such a sad, desperate, lonely dude that you're going out of your way to waste time online by emailing random people who didn't even bother filling out a profile? And people can be offended by whatever they like. Instead about worrying about them being offended by getting mails when they choose not to fill out a profile, I'd suggest you look at your own behavior and try to figure out why you're so desperately looking for someone that you're spending time mailing random profiles of people you know nothing about.

angelikaJ -> RE: Women Getting Rude Emails - A Rant From Kansas (7/21/2013 12:07:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UonBndedNee One week here does not mean no experience. No it doesn't, but it seems to exclude (in your case) the ability to be sympathetic to those who have a need to be somewhat circumspect. To make things much, much simpler, why are you paying any attention to people who appear ( again, to you) to strike notes of cognitive dissonance within their profiles?

OsideGirl -> RE: Women Getting Rude Emails - A Rant From Kansas (7/21/2013 12:08:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UonBndedNee But it does help those of us that are really searching to have an idea of what the other person is looking for. I'll give you another hint: A friend of mine explained it perfectly. She found if she listed details about the dynamic she was looking for, many of the men were willing to lie and tell her what they think she wanted to hear. By leaving her profile vague, it gave her the opportunity to have them describe their ideal dynamic first. (and even then they would still try to back pedal to try to meet her) I find it funny, when people don't get handed what they want, they just starting ranting. Really, put some effort in, ask questions, get to know them. If it's something worth having, it's something worth making an effort. Lack of effort is not impressive.

smartsub10 -> RE: Women Getting Rude Emails - A Rant From Kansas (7/21/2013 12:08:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UonBndedNee Well at least I got a discussion going. My post was an observation and an opinion. It was not meant to be a "covert" ad or me trying to tell anyone how to act or behave. But one shouldn't be offended about an email if they do not provide enough information about what they are looking for. I know that it's not going to stop all of the asshole comment that are made simple because the sender thinks it's funny. But it does help those of us that are really searching to have an idea of what the other person is looking for. At least some idea. Just give a hint. And yes, I will admit, I should not have used the word "True" or given any impression that my opinion is the way that a DOM thinks or acts. So any reference that gives the impression that ALL Doms think a certain way should be change to a first person reference. The post reflects my personal point of view and in no way should be taken as the opinion of anyone else. I'm confused. I read several replies from women who said that they clearly state what they want in their profiles (myself included) and yet they get the type of obnoxious messages you claim women are complaining about in their profiles. I get several every day. I ignore them. Delete, move on.

Rawni -> RE: Women Getting Rude Emails - A Rant From Kansas (7/21/2013 12:14:57 PM)
Just In... Breaking News Alert! Gorean male, taken down and educated by many slaves as the other Gorean men stood, watching and laughing. Free women joined in, they said, for the fun of it. Film at eleven.

angelikaJ -> RE: Women Getting Rude Emails - A Rant From Kansas (7/21/2013 12:16:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UonBndedNee Well at least I got a discussion going. My post was an observation and an opinion. It was not meant to be a "covert" ad or me trying to tell anyone how to act or behave. But one shouldn't be offended about an email if they do not provide enough information about what they are looking for. I know that it's not going to stop all of the asshole comment that are made simple because the sender thinks it's funny. But it does help those of us that are really searching to have an idea of what the other person is looking for. At least some idea. Just give a hint. And yes, I will admit, I should not have used the word "True" or given any impression that my opinion is the way that a DOM thinks or acts. So any reference that gives the impression that ALL Doms think a certain way should be change to a first person reference. The post reflects my personal point of view and in no way should be taken as the opinion of anyone else. Regarding the bolded section: you are making this much, much harder than it need be: if you only write to women who have given you that hint within their profiles, and avoid those who are expressing a need for the extreme, your chances could be much better. If you could objectively go back over your profile and your journal writings, as well as what you wrote here, and see where you might be coming across as overbearing and figure out how to correct that, if it is not your intention to be so, that might help as well. edit: clarity

UllrsIshtar -> RE: Women Getting Rude Emails - A Rant From Kansas (7/21/2013 12:20:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rawni Gorean male, taken down Please, the dude is as Gorean and you are a dominate male. Just because somebody slaps a label on themselves don't make it so... Why is it that everybody so readily points out to any "true Master" that comes in here that claiming they're something doesn't mean that everybody else will see them as such, yet when somebody claims to be Gorean, and so painfully obviously isn't, everybody runs with the Gorean label like it's the new Gospel?

Rawni -> RE: Women Getting Rude Emails - A Rant From Kansas (7/21/2013 12:31:03 PM)
Point taken and received Ishtar. If there is a next time I will fix that right up. I don't see him as Gorean, not in the tiniest way, other than he called himself that. Thank you for getting me to think of it the way you questioned it.

JeffBC -> RE: Women Getting Rude Emails - A Rant From Kansas (7/21/2013 12:31:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl A friend of mine explained it perfectly. She found if she listed details about the dynamic she was looking for, many of the men were willing to lie and tell her what they think she wanted to hear. By leaving her profile vague, it gave her the opportunity to have them describe their ideal dynamic first. (and even then they would still try to back pedal to try to meet her) And another angle. If I were seeking here anyone who "listed details about the dynamic she was looking for" would almost certainly be passed over. I'm not looking for a dynamic. The profiles that grab my interest are the ones that speak to the person. That's what I'd be looking for -- a person not a slave/sub/bottom/kajira/whatever. Just as another funny aside (not invalidating your friend's observation just putting a different spin on it). I'd also tell any woman I wanted <almost> whatever she wanted to hear about her dynamic. It's just that in my case I wouldn't be lying. I'm a pretty flexible individual and I have a lot of confidence that I could fit an awful lot of different dynamics for the right woman. From my personal perspective my standards are high enough for what constitutes "the right woman" that I'd be a fool to pass on her due to some trivial foolishness about who obeys who when and how or in what flavor or whatnot. @Rawni ROFL @smartsub10 +1

Apocalypso -> RE: Women Getting Rude Emails - A Rant From Kansas (7/21/2013 12:55:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef "If she didn't want that kind of attention she shouldn't have dressed that way." Yeah, gotcha. "If you want more replies to your messages, you need to have a better profile". Oh no, I'm blaming the poor guy for not getting messages. See, underneath the one true wayism, the chest beating and the general fuckwittery, the OP has the ghost of a point. People have full control over what they put in their profiles. People need to fucking own that. If someone calls themselves Slut4Use, then that's the image they're choosing to put across. Especially if the profile operates along similar lines. If someone is claiming that they are, indeed, a slut to be used, without qualifiers, then people are entitled to respond to that presentation. (Or to choose not to respond, for those of us who prefer not to talk to one-dimensional dullards). People sending mail to women that reflects the profile of the recipient is a different issue then scattergun sexually explicit messages to every female profile they stumble across. We see criticism of male profiles on here all the time and the image they put across. I don't believe that HOTLUVSLUT69 is some kind of delicate flower who can't be held accountable in exactly the same way. Obviously, there is a big difference between dumb female profiles and dumb male profiles. Dumb male profiles insist on messaging women. In my experience, dumb female profiles generally stay the fuck out of my way. That is significant- it's a lot easier for men to avoid the idiots on here then it is women, which may explain some of the differences in how people respond to the issue on the forums. But, at the end of the day, an idiot is an idiot whatever their gender. (Bonus Note: The OP can't criticise other people for having bad profile names however. Because his is godawful).

DarkSteven -> RE: Women Getting Rude Emails - A Rant From Kansas (7/21/2013 1:11:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl You'll notice that he's calling out the women rather than calling out his fellow males. That's because we men are noble paragons of virtue while you women are all a bunch of sluts. We oughta make you all dress in burqas.

BitaTruble -> RE: Women Getting Rude Emails - A Rant From Kansas (7/21/2013 1:55:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UonBndedNee So to all of the posters out there who's profiles simply say that they want to be shackled and chained unless they are needed for a use, to all that say want to be publicly humiliated, to all that think that they are nothing but what I say you are, to all that say that they want a prison arrangement, then get on you f***ing knees and prepare yourself for pain that you have never experienced. And NEVER ask what you have done to deserve your punishment. The majority of posters here have a much more realistic vision of life and how to live it well and, for the most part, it does not include fantasy porn. (That whole thing about finding a first kajira to destroy another human.. weird and creepy, dude.. seriously.. that your brain even came up with that chainsaw mentality just proves to me that you don't know what the fuck you're doing and you shouldn't be trusted.) You are preaching at the wrong folks, Padre and this side is working pretty well without you.

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