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Seriously, anti-gun people, state for the record precisely what it is about guns and the people who enjoy them you don't like and why you want to change the Constitution in order to accommodate your fears.
One would think that those on the anti gun side would have a list about that.Pehaps google could be your friend here...that is if you really are interested in finding out what their position is.
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They've been here since before the US was the US, they're part of our culture, and up until the last 25 years, they haven't been that big an issue. It's odd that the rise in perceived violence seems to coincide with the birth of both the rap mu
Factually incorrect.While guns have been here pretty much since the beginning they were not universally available to all.
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sic culture and mass-media (MTV/FPS games) that glorify their misuse.
Kinda like roy rogers,lone ranger,and a whole list of vigilanties who used guns instead of intellect to solve their problems. When non whites do the same that seems to cause more than a little consternation.
You're right about guns not being "universally available to all" at first. That wasn't because they were "excluded" from certain segments of the population, it was because they were largely hand-made and expensive items.
And why stop with trying to causally link gun violence with Roy Rodgers and The Lone Ranger? You could go all the way back to the old yellow press, which blatantly glorified the "gangsta rappers" of the day, the like of the James brothers and Billy the Kid. But for some reason, young men of that generation didn't feel compelled to strap on their shootin' irons and go to town and shoot up the place. I wonder why? Could it be that there was more involved parenting and a legal system that didn't take such a hands-off "we don't want to upset them because they're (insert racial identity)?".
No, it was the combination of a generation that had been allowed to languish in sanctioned poverty, lowered expectations, little to no parental involvement and the enticements of enticing images of dudes flashing large rolls of cash, hot chicks, and luxury cars while posing with guns and lyrics that equated street violence with sexual prowess and financial success. Gangs have always been around, but with the explosion of social media (TV, internet, etc), they were repackaged as social heroes.
If I were a black teen living in one of the inner-city hellholes, I'd probably be more inclined to pay attention to the guy who told me that having a pistol tucked in my waistband while I was hustling dope and chicks for ludicrous sums of money was preferable to a crap-ass job at the local fast-food joint. Another factor that plays in is the outright animosity many people in the AA community have towards education and conventional upward mobility.
Many view someone who gets good grades and wants to work an honest job as being too "white", and in some cases they actually go so far as to attack them physically. Why work when you can get a check, or you can stick a piece in someone's face and take what they have.
On the flip side, consider the white middle-class loser who goes out and guns down masses of people. They too are seduced by the allure of the media, spending too much time in morally-desensitizing fantasy worlds where they are rewarded for killing as many opponents as possible, sprinkled with liberal doses of unrealistic pornography and unreasonable expectations about what normal relationships actually comprise of. They were raised on TV and the net because their parents were too busy doing their own thing, and when it comes time for the cellar-dweller to go out into the sunshine, they're socially retarded to the point they can barely function.
Both groups have been force-fed misleading information about how the world works, and how they are to properly interact with it, but trying to control and condition those messages is either considered racist or restrictive, mainly by the entities that profit the most from supplying the flawed information in the first place. Not everybody who listens to rap music turns into a thug, and not everybody who spends hours a day playing Call of Duty turns into a killing machine, but when they do, the very same groups that fed them this garbage makes bank on them by reporting on this using the same engine of information that caused the problem in the first place.
Man, I need a drink, and it's only three in the afternoon already. Just in the course of writing this post, I received two more "dumbass question" emails from my club's website asking the same stupid fucking questions about if the state or Feds are coming to get their guns. I am getting sick and goddamned tired of repeating the same shit to these fools on my end every fucking day, and I blame it all on the fucking media, which is playing us from both ends of the spectrum. And the real irony of it all is, I'm saying this on one of the worst offenders of the lot (a social-media engine on the Web).
Fuck it all, here's to the next Civil War. We're about overdue for one, and hopefully, this one'll kill off all the dumbasses of our generation.
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