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Powergamz1 -> RE: Stand your ground in Missouri OH NO!!! (7/29/2013 9:32:30 AM)
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Since you weren't there to see it first hand, and you refuse to learn about it now, let me school you. The white men were already armed. Got it? They didn't need SYG, they had the birthright.
The chattel 'must retreat', and the 'may issue' laws benefited the KKK.
Later 'Retreat to the wall laws' were remnants that persisted as the black population increased in Northern cities.
The more recent trend to allow citizens of all colors and social status to defend themselves (culminating in the 14th amendment cases of Heller and McDonald), is bitterly assailed because of a fear of black men and brown men with guns, in more cases than people will admit.
Others can decide what side they are on, equal rights including self defense for all, or not. To quote Paul Robeson, I've made my choice.
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
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Also I note you fail to even attempt to respond to the overwhelming facts that prove the ALEC and the NRA are behind CCW and SYG laws.
Are you insisting his position is that ALEC was arming black men?
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The ludicrous and racist meme being spread here, that ALEC of all groups, came along and helped black people arm and defend themselves is pure bullshit that needs to be exposed every time it comes up.
ALEC came along at the time Strom switched sides... do you honestly believe he would have supported a group that was "arming black men"? Heaven forbid Jesse Helms be part of such a group!
Almost immediately, the impact of this interaction was evident: In 1981, ALEC published and distributed 10,000 copies of Reagan and the States, detailing methods for decentralizing government from the federal to the state level. In 1982, ALEC began developing its first health care initiatives. In 1983, ALEC responded to the Reagan Administration’s landmark study, A Nation at Risk, with a two-part report on Education which laid the blame for the nation’s educational decline squarely where it belonged-on centralization, declining values, and an increasingly liberal social agenda that had pervaded schools since the 1960s-and which offered such “radical” ideas as a voucher system, merit pay for teachers and higher academic and behavioral standards for students as possible solutions to the problems.
http://www.alec.org/about-alec/history/
The 60's bugged the hell out of these men.... in more ways than one. If you are under the belief they this fear mongering and angry group of men didnt seek to arm the white population, you are sadly mistaken.
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